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"I want to believe" - CBS Sports Article

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https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...enn-states-drew-allar-gets-another-big-stage/
"I want to believe.

But I don't."


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Were the red zone plays eliminated from the chart? If not, it doesn't tell the whole story. Red Zone passes are by definition short yardage.
Given that there is a 2yd pass for a TD, I suspect they are included, however, a very small percentage of plays are in the red zone.
I haven't seen a recent stat, but a few games ago, PSU was very close to the bottom of all of FBS in the yards per pass attempt.
 
Given that there is a 2yd pass for a TD, I suspect they are included, however, a very small percentage of plays are in the red zone.
I haven't seen a recent stat, but a few games ago, PSU was very close to the bottom of all of FBS in the yards per pass attempt.
If there is no run game then Allar can't do it all against great D. He was bad but so was CJF, MY, OL, TEs/WRs.
 
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kind of cherry-picks two of Allar's worst games (OSU and Indy) against one of his best. My question is "did the simplification of the passing game help or was MD just a lot worse at pass defense?" We talk about "Allar" but the players have to get open. Football is not a one-man game. In fact, it is probably the most team-oriented game we have. Lots of issues will affect Allar's performance: run game, pass blocking, blitz pickups, Receivers getting open, etc.

The good news is that Allar should come in with some confidence and it is a home game. Other than that, lets play the game.
 
If there is no run game then Allar can't do it all against great D. He was bad but so was CJF, MY, OL, TEs/WRs.
No disagreement. It seems to me that the WRs don't have the ability to get separation and/or make plays on the ball, and so that has driven a very short yardage playbook. The post was not meant as a critique of Allar. It's just the reality of the offense and a significant impediment to moving the ball against teams with comparable talent.
 
kind of cherry-picks two of Allar's worst games (OSU and Indy) against one of his best. My question is "did the simplification of the passing game help or was MD just a lot worse at pass defense?" We talk about "Allar" but the players have to get open. Football is not a one-man game. In fact, it is probably the most team-oriented game we have. Lots of issues will affect Allar's performance: run game, pass blocking, blitz pickups, Receivers getting open, etc.

The good news is that Allar should come in with some confidence and it is a home game. Other than that, lets play the game.
Agree, but this isn't a 3 game anomaly. Mid way through the season PSU was 2nd last(I think) in all of FBS in yards per pass attempt.
I didn't take the article as putting blaming on Allar. It's just that he threw all the passes. As I just noted to another reply, I think the bigger issue is the WRs inability to stretch the field and get separation. Remember how JF has always talked about big plays as key to the game plan? It was Trace chucking up balls knowing that he had receivers that could get to the high point and make a catch. Now we have receivers that don't seem to be able to get separation on average CBs. I don't know the full situation and cause. I just know what IS.
 
Agree, but this isn't a 3 game anomaly. Mid way through the season PSU was 2nd last(I think) in all of FBS in yards per pass attempt.
I didn't take the article as putting blaming on Allar. It's just that he threw all the passes. As I just noted to another reply, I think the bigger issue is the WRs inability to stretch the field and get separation. Remember how JF has always talked about big plays as key to the game plan? It was Trace chucking up balls knowing that he had receivers that could get to the high point and make a catch. Now we have receivers that don't seem to be able to get separation on average CBs. I don't know the full situation and cause. I just know what IS.
The offense was scoring 30+ per game. If the passing game was off and the running game was off how were we scoring so many points
 
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The offense was scoring 30+ per game. If the passing game was off and the running game was off how were we scoring so many points
They also just scored well over 40 offensive points on the road against a team that the current No. 1 team "only" scored 37 points against at home.
 
The offense was scoring 30+ per game. If the passing game was off and the running game was off how were we scoring so many points
Most of that happened in the second half vs inferior opponents who were exhausted because our defense dominated TOP. I'm confused that people still don't believe we have issues offensively.
 
I'm sure that it won't be. On the other hand, I'm anticipating that Michigan will face a bit more adversity than they have so far while playing their absurdly easy schedule.
True Michigan's pathetic schedule should play to our advantage but we must start fast to truly have a shot. Can't get down early.
 
True Michigan's pathetic schedule should play to our advantage but we must start fast to truly have a shot. Can't get down early.
Yes. In the Nebraska, MSU, Minny and Purdue games, they effectively ended them in the first quarter or early in the second quarter. However, against Rutgers and even IU at home, those games were one score games well into the second quarter, and the former one probably was even a one score game well into the third quarter.

If they get ahead by any more than 10 points, it's probably going to be unrealistic to come back unless they implode, which I don't expect.
 
Michigan's weak OOC schedule certainly helped last year...
Okay, but maybe it helped Illinois, who by all rights probably should've beaten them at Michigan in late November. PSU defensively just wasn't prepared or equipped to control Michigan's running game in 2022. Maybe they won't be able to do it on Saturday, but I believe that they will be in a better position to do it.
 
kind of cherry-picks two of Allar's worst games (OSU and Indy) against one of his best. My question is "did the simplification of the passing game help or was MD just a lot worse at pass defense?" We talk about "Allar" but the players have to get open. Football is not a one-man game. In fact, it is probably the most team-oriented game we have. Lots of issues will affect Allar's performance: run game, pass blocking, blitz pickups, Receivers getting open, etc.

The good news is that Allar should come in with some confidence and it is a home game. Other than that, lets play the game.

Insane to continually talk about the duhO$U game - there is a huge difference between playing on the road, especially TheShoe, and playing @home in TheBeav - this is especially true for a first-year starter. Said prior to the duhO$U game that the duhO$U game being at TheShoe was a huge advantage. Have felt since the beginning of the year that PSU would have a better shot of beating scUM @TheBeav then beating duhO$U @TheShoe.
 
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Insane to continually talk about the duhO$U game - there is a huge difference between playing on the road, especially TheShoe, and playing @home in TheBeav - this is especially true for a first-year starter. Said prior to the duhO$U game that the duhO$U game being at TheShoe was a huge advantage. Have felt since the beginning of the year that PSU would have a better shot of beating scUM @TheBeav then beating duhO$U @TheShoe.
You think you said that? lol
 
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Can't see his troll bullshit - put him on ignore some time ago. Is he still spewing his troll horseshit. Saying "we" and "us" as if anyone can't see straight through his douche nonsense?
Lol you put me on ignore so I couldn't call you out after the Ohio State game when you were MIA for days. And I'm sure you don't have me on ignore. You're too obsessed
 
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The offense was scoring 30+ per game. If the passing game was off and the running game was off how were we scoring so many points
Respectfully, did you watch any of those games? The O did not look very capable any point in those games. The D had a lot to do with putting the O in good position and wearing down the opposing D. A disproportionate amount of those pts came late after a huge number of play. Outside of OSU/PSU/um, the B1G is pretty poor this year.
Look, PSU is still the 3rd best team in the conference, but they are not close to the teams that will compete for a natty.
 
Given that there is a 2yd pass for a TD, I suspect they are included, however, a very small percentage of plays are in the red zone.
I haven't seen a recent stat, but a few games ago, PSU was very close to the bottom of all of FBS in the yards per pass attempt.
But at the top of the heap of scoring in the red zone. C'mon, you really don't want to believe.
 
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I want to believe this is a stat that matters but I don't.
You don't think that the ability to make a defense defend 40yds instead of 20 matters?
I'm no football coach, but I know 11 guys trying to defend 2132 sq yds is harder than trying to defense 1066 sq yds
 
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