he literally rag dolled this poor kid...jeez
http://www.flowrestling.org/video/1265471-austin-desantos-58-second-tech-fall#.WgDpW2iPLuo
http://www.flowrestling.org/video/1265471-austin-desantos-58-second-tech-fall#.WgDpW2iPLuo
If anyone was wondering how DeSantos was adjusting to college
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True freshman doing that to another college competitor is a bit impressive but I’m not making as big a deal out of it due to it being a lower division competitor. I’m aware sometimes guys go to a lower division for reasons that have nothing to do with talent/skill but this doesn’t appear to be the case. Some of the things he did in that match i don’t expect to see him try against the better d1 guys and if he does i don’t expect him to be successful there.
“Burkhart Welcomes Austin DeSantos to DII wrestling...”
Things have surely changed in college wrestling, despite fewer programs at the D1 level. When I was wrestling in high school and college, it was not unheard of for PA state champs and high state placers to go to D3 schools to wrestle.
A wrestler from Wilkes (Jim Weisenfluh) in my weightclass at the MAC tournament went from being an D3 runnerup in 1975 to OW at the 1976 EIWAs, pinning his way through EIWAs. Montclair State from D3 had quite a few D1 placers, including 1978 134 champ Ken Mallory.
A wrestler from Wilkes (Jim Weisenfluh) in my weightclass at the MAC tournament went from being an D3 runnerup in 1975 to OW at the 1976 EIWAs, pinning his way through EIWAs. Montclair State from D3 had quite a few D1 placers, including 1978 134 champ Ken Mallory.
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A very impressive flurry of points.
Thanks dunkej01.
Had to wonder why DeSantos didn't then finish him off and get the pin for the win? He seemed to totally dominate the guy and could do what he wanted.
Not that long ago Jody Strittmatter was wrestling for division 2 power UPJ when Iowa invited him to IC. Jody was pretty good at both divisions.
Do you think D2 and D3 wrestlers no longer being eligible to wrestle in the D1 tourney has anything to do with it?
Shorty Hitchcock from Bloomsburg won Division II and was OW. Then qualified for Division I and repeated the results.
It doesn't help, I'm sure. But you would think the fact that there are less D1 programs would counterbalance that. I do wish they still allowed D2 and D3 guys to participate in the D1 tourney. A lot of those guys would probably do better than the ##30ish guys now in the tournament.
Jason Nolf's HS teammate Jake Robb was 220 AA runner-up as a JR and then pinned/teched his way thru 220 AAA. He committed to Mercyhurst and is a RS FR there now.
Robb definitely could've wrestled D1. The guy he decked in the finals is at American, and another placer is at Harvard.
Robb definitely could've wrestled D1. The guy he decked in the finals is at American, and another placer is at Harvard.
Absolutely. I was coaching in college when that rule went into effect and it was almost immediate how quickly the quality of wrestler went down in D2 and D3.
I was looking at the results from the 1976 EIWAs and saw the name of a guy I wrestled with at the West Side Y in NYC back in the 1980s when we were in law school together. I hadn't realized he placed that high.
If I remember correctly that was the same year Wondrous Wade Schalles went up 2 weight classes to wrestle Shorty in the PSAC and pinned him in the finals.
SIU and Iowa State this weekend for Drexel ... I see Austin getting 2 more Ws on the road, he looks solid and has no fear!
Tom Martucci a former Bloomsburg HC won a NC at Trenton State and then won D1 championship.
I was looking for him in last weekend's results, but he didn't wrestle. Still on the roster. Has he been injured?
2 PA state champs from my high school went to UPJ and wrestled with Jody, Troy Barbush who won an individual national title as well as a team title at UPJ and Joey Dougherty who washed out do to grades but beat Jon Trenge in the semi's when he went undefeated and won states. He also was giving Cael a hell of a match at Daper Dan's before being pinned. He could have wrestled anywhere.
I could see DeSantos AA this year as a true freshman he's so good on his feet, will be interesting to see if he can get off bottom with some of these older bigger boys though.
I saw him win the D1 championship at Jadwin Gym in 1981. He beat a guy from Temple in the finals, which might remain one of the most unlikely school matchups in D1 wrestling history, even at the time.
NCAAs were a lot different then. My wife and I drove from NYC to Princeton and bought tickets at the box office before the semis on Friday and the finals on Saturday.
If I'm correct, Troy Barbush was a JV wrestler in his sophomore year at Manheim Central and won states two years later as a senior, which is a big accomplishment.
I don't think Troy was ever JV, maybe his older brother Justin was who wrestled at Elizabethtown College. But Troy did go from not placing his jr year to winning states his senior year at Manheim. I remember Troy lost in the finals that year in the manheim holiday tournament to Vertus Jones from Greensburg Salem who was an a 3-time all american at WVU. But they wrestled different weights at states.
IDK, Manheim Central records show Troy at 0-1 his sophomore year, which may be wrong. Btw, were the sports teams at Central called the Maroons prior to being called the Barons?
I graduated in 97 i only know us as the Barons. I just can't think of anyone at manheim who troy would have been behind as a sophomore but you maybe you are right.
I was kind of surprised to see that as his sophomore record since he was so good his junior and senior years. The site does qualify the accuracy of their data.
I wrestled in the Lebanon-Lancaster league 1972-73 and I have a vague recollection of Manheim Central being the Maroons then, but that has a very good chance of being incorrect.
Most of my best friends were wrestlers, i played basketball at manheim. Marc Hoffer, who had a great career at American, Joey Dougherty who was a state champ and went to UPJ, and Zach Yohn who was a 3-time placer at states were all in my class. I still talk to all 3 regularly as they were some of my best friends in HS. In fact Hoffer and i will be going to Cleveland this year for nationals together. Manheim just isn't the same wrestling program anymore and the Holiday tournament isn't what it used to be, especially now with Easton backing out a year ago. Hell we used to call it pre-states. If you won the Manhiem Holiday tournament at worst you were placing at States. So many great wrestlers came through that tournament.
Yeah. He's not getting away with that six point move against even mid-level D1 competition. I love DeSanto but that fireman's straight to the back isn't going to fly against a kid with a pulse at the college level. I'd love to see DeSanto compete for a national title, but he'd better come with some varied attacks, level changes, and different angles because that tie up will be easy for most guys to defend.
I went to UPJ from 94 to 99. Those were some really fun teams to watch. A fair amount of kids from the local area were on those teams.
i went to IUP from 97-02, i used to go visit quite a bit freshman year. They were the premier Div II program in the country at that point.
He didn't use that move once against a vastly better opponent in the state finals.
Kinda oversimplified to think he doesn't have other moves in his arsenal simply from one match against an overmatched opponent.
He actually used that fireman's against Meija at Dapper Dan a number of times and it was successful. I said what I said knowing that and also am surprised it worked against Justin Meija. He didn't take Meija feet to back with it, but he made a living off of it in that match.
He did try it against Lee early in the match, it was just stuffed quickly and nothing came of it and he stopped trying it. His takedowns against Lee were from sort of a Japanese wizzer if I'm remembering correctly, and the go behind to win it. The second one I think was a low outside shot that he buried his head and got around on.
I really like DeSanto and I don't think for one second that he doesn't have more in his arsenal. I guess my point is that the title of this thread was about how he was adjusting to college wrestling and that match was certainly no indicator. He wrestled kids a lot better than that in high school.
