If the Big 10 decides to move forward with games this season...

[Sullivan]

Here is how I'd like to see it play out:

Only coaches, players, referees, and ABC, ESPN, or Big 10 TV crews at the game. No fans, bands, recruits, cheerleaders, etc.

All players must be tested the day of (or day before) the game.

The schedule would like something like this for all teams in the conference:

Sept 5th Game
Sept 12th Game
Sept 19th Game
Sept 26th Bye (or makeup game)

Oct 3rd Game
Oct 10th Game
Oct 17th Game
Oct 24th Bye (or makeup game)

Oct 31st Game
Nov 7th Game
Nov 14th Game
Nov 21st Bye (or makeup game)

 

[NedFromYork]

Agree and I'll take it gladly. I also think they will try for a four team playoff or maybe just a single championship game, depends how many P5 conferences play.

 

[Nitt1300]

Unicorn open season is more likely than football this year

 

[Frabjous]

Testing for COVID the day of/day before the game would not work because it takes 3 to 5 days to get the test results.

 

[RickinDayton]

Testing for COVID the day of/day before the game would not work because it takes 3 to 5 days to get the test results.

Not sure about the availability of same day testing across the country. There is a group out of the Pittsburgh area I heard advertising on the radio that conducts on-site, same day testing. They have a mobile lab with lab techs certified to conduct COVID-19 testing. I cannot recall the name of the company. Probably expensive.
Hospitals are testing people two days before procedures, so it is accomplished in less than 3-5 days.

 

[psu00]

Most places I’ve seen get results back in 24- 48 hours. So testing on Thursday, (maybe Friday depending on what they can set up), would be more optimal.

 

[MontereyLion]

Abbot does have that machine that returns Covid result within 15 minutes. You would need a number of those machines and you would have to test teams, coaches and staff the day before to get the test results on time. Refs could be tested the day of the game.

 

[dwiz]

Testing for COVID the day of/day before the game would not work because it takes 3 to 5 days to get the test results.

Only for the peasants. There's tests that take 20 minutes

 

[fairfaxlion2]

why is the big ten doing this? I really don't get it. When some players die because they got Covid from playing tackle football in front of zero fans, then what? Do we say that was worth it?

 

[Nitt1300]

why is the big ten doing this? I really don't get it. When some players die because they got Covid from playing tackle football in front of zero fans, then what? Do we say that was worth it?

they don't want anyone to call them "snowflakes"

 

[Ian]

Here is how I'd like to see it play out:

Only coaches, players, referees, and ABC, ESPN, or Big 10 TV crews at the game. No fans, bands, recruits, cheerleaders, etc.

All players must be tested the day of (or day before) the game.

The schedule would like something like this for all teams in the conference:

Sept 5th Game
Sept 12th Game
Sept 19th Game
Sept 26th Bye (or makeup game)

Oct 3rd Game
Oct 10th Game
Oct 17th Game
Oct 24th Bye (or makeup game)

Oct 31st Game
Nov 7th Game
Nov 14th Game
Nov 21st Bye (or makeup game)

Why not keep the current Bi1G schedule as is and add the tenth game on Sept 12 since all teams were scheduled to play out of conference games then. Pretty simple. Pretty slow ramp up in September which will be needed.

 

[MtNittany]

They're moving forward. There is little doubt about that. Who gets screwed (use your imagination) in the process will be secondary. We'll have football this fall though.

 

[ralphster]

Only for the peasants. There's tests that take 20 minutes

You mean the antigen tests? The ones that are 80% sensitive? So they tell one in five people who have the virus that they do not? I'll pass.

 

[RGWhirly]

why is the big ten doing this? I really don't get it. When some players die because they got Covid from playing tackle football in front of zero fans, then what? Do we say that was worth it?

players have a better chance of breaking their neck than dying from Covid.

 

[Nittany Ziggy]

You mean the antigen tests? The ones that are 80% sensitive? So they tell one in five people who have the virus that they do not? I'll pass.

Is that the type of test data that we are making decisions on that are affecting hundreds of billions dollars worth of economic activity on? If so, I’ll pass on that for the entire economy.

 

[bdgan]

Here is how I'd like to see it play out:

Only coaches, players, referees, and ABC, ESPN, or Big 10 TV crews at the game. No fans, bands, recruits, cheerleaders, etc.

All players must be tested the day of (or day before) the game.

The schedule would like something like this for all teams in the conference:

Sept 5th Game
Sept 12th Game
Sept 19th Game
Sept 26th Bye (or makeup game)

Oct 3rd Game
Oct 10th Game
Oct 17th Game
Oct 24th Bye (or makeup game)

Oct 31st Game
Nov 7th Game
Nov 14th Game
Nov 21st Bye (or makeup game)

I don't think they'll start on September 5th

 

[AWS1022]

why is the big ten doing this? I really don't get it. When some players die because they got Covid from playing tackle football in front of zero fans, then what? Do we say that was worth it?

Did they get it playing football or from the pump at the gas station the day before the game? Or from the person serving food before the game? Or from a family member who picked it up when they were out at their essential job?

 

[ralphster]

Is that the type of test data that we are making decisions on that are affecting hundreds of billions dollars worth of economic activity on? If so, I’ll pass on that for the entire economy.

No. They are not being used for most testing right now. Most of the tests are the (somewhat) more accurate PCR test. But even the low sensitivity tests would be fine for epidemiologic work. If you know the sensitivity, you can certainly make societal/economic decisions using these tests. They are just not fantastic to use to make decisions for an individual.

 

[bdgan]

why is the big ten doing this? I really don't get it. When some players die because they got Covid from playing tackle football in front of zero fans, then what? Do we say that was worth it?

Please don't take this personally but I hate that kind of post. Statistics show that people under 25 who test positive have a 1 in 1,000,000 chance of dying from Covid-19. I'm not taking the disease lightly and I realize there are other considerations like spreading it to other people who are more vulnerable. I'm not even saying they should play. I'm just saying that these aren't easy decisions. There are huge economic, mental, and physical risks to not opening the schools and playing sports.

Mortality rate of those who become infected:

 

[interrobang]

Only 171 people under the age of 25 have died from this, most of them with pre-existing conditions

 

[JoeBot409]

Not sure about the availability of same day testing across the country. There a group out of the Pittsburgh area I heard advertising on the radio that conducts on-site, same day testing. They have a mobile lab with lab techs certified to conduct COVID-19 testing. I cannot recall the name if the company. Probably expensive.
Hospitals are testing people two days before procedures, so it is accomplished in less than 3-5 days.

Supposedly they are getting capability ready for nursing homes. Results in 15 minutes.

 

[JoeBot409]

Here is how I'd like to see it play out:

Only coaches, players, referees, and ABC, ESPN, or Big 10 TV crews at the game. No fans, bands, recruits, cheerleaders, etc.

All players must be tested the day of (or day before) the game.

The schedule would like something like this for all teams in the conference:

Sept 5th Game
Sept 12th Game
Sept 19th Game
Sept 26th Bye (or makeup game)

Oct 3rd Game
Oct 10th Game
Oct 17th Game
Oct 24th Bye (or makeup game)

Oct 31st Game
Nov 7th Game
Nov 14th Game
Nov 21st Bye (or makeup game)

They should probably not go that deep into November and I would play all games at noon local.

 

[sss]

They're moving forward. There is little doubt about that. Who gets screwed (use your imagination) in the process will be secondary. We'll have football this fall though.

Let's see, the biggest D3 conference in PA cancelled the season last week. The PSAC, PAs D2 conference, is rumored to be cancelling this week (or moving to the spring). The Big10 and Pac10 have already delayed and announced playing conference only schedules, with the ACC rumored to have a similar announcement. Even the SEC commisioner has said he is 'highly concerned." Numerous schools already halting workouts, the Pac12 commisioner testing positive....
Yeah all signs point toward a season. Maybe if we had a plan to slow the virus prior to reopening, that would be a possibility.

 

[STPGopherfan]

Only 171 people under the age of 25 have died from this, most of them with pre-existing conditions

I wonder how many of us are under 30?

 

[PSUSignore]

Please don't take this personally but I hate that kind of post. Statistics show that people under 25 who test positive have a 1 in 1,000,000 chance of dying from Covid-19. I'm not taking the disease lightly and I realize there are other considerations like spreading it to other people who are more vulnerable. I'm not even saying they should play. I'm just saying that these aren't easy decisions. There are huge economic, mental, and physical risks to not opening the schools and playing sports.

Mortality rate of those who become infected:

There's more to the story than just fatality rates. 50% of those hospitalized in my city are under 50. Consumption of hospital beds may impact treatment of other non-COVID related injuries and illnesses. What are the long term impacts to those that recover, young or old? Asymptomatic healthy young people can still transmit it to others in higher risk categories where serious illness or death may occur.

At this point I'll be surprised if there is a football season at all.

 

[BeaverLion]

Only 171 people under the age of 25 have died from this, most of them with pre-existing conditions

Only. Lol

Some of you amaze me when discussing human life. Wonder how you would feel if someone very close to you were one of the ones.

 

[AWS1022]

Only. Lol

Some of you amaze me when discussing human life. Wonder how you would feel if someone very close to you were one of the ones.

Compared to the over half a million under 25 year olds that die in car accidents every year, it would be “only” 171.

 

[Lion84]

Compared to the over half a million under 25 year olds that die in car accidents every year, it would be “only” 171.

Exactly - no one is saying it doesn't matter but applying some context to it. It's almost impossible to have these discussions without it getting into - you want to kill everyone or you want everyone to be out of work forever as if there is no middle ground. We should ban alcohol and stop all DUI deaths but we don't because these kinds of decisions are made every day.

 

[The Spin Meister]

Compared to the over half a million under 25 year olds that die in car accidents every year, it would be “only” 171.

Where did you come up with that? Total motor vehicle deaths per year are between 35,000 ro 40,000.

Still way bigger than 171 but geesh.......

 

[AWS1022]

Where did you come up with that? Total motor vehicle deaths per year are between 35,000 ro 40,000.

Still way bigger than 171 but geesh.......

4) Traffic fatalities (2018) stats show this to be the #1 cause of death among people ages 5–29.
These accidents on the roads around the world have been a leading cause of death for children and young people ages 5–29. On a similar note, they are considered to be the second leading cause of death for children and youngsters ages 5–14. And with approximately half a million people under 25 dying on the roads each year, accidents are turning into a modern global menace.

Source: World Health Organization

 

[The Spin Meister]

4) Traffic fatalities (2018) stats show this to be the #1 cause of death among people ages 5–29.
These accidents on the roads around the world have been a leading cause of death for children and young people ages 5–29. On a similar note, they are considered to be the second leading cause of death for children and youngsters ages 5–14. And with approximately half a million people under 25 dying on the roads each year, accidents are turning into a modern global menace.

Source: World Health Organization

Those have to be global numbers. Its from the WHO.

 

[AWS1022]

Those have to be global numbers. Its from the WHO.

I didn’t say they weren’t global numbers....in fact I said “that die in accidents every year”, not just accidents in this country.

 

[Kiber]

Please don't take this personally but I hate that kind of post. Statistics show that people under 25 who test positive have a 1 in 1,000,000 chance of dying from Covid-19. I'm not taking the disease lightly and I realize there are other considerations like spreading it to other people who are more vulnerable. I'm not even saying they should play. I'm just saying that these aren't easy decisions. There are huge economic, mental, and physical risks to not opening the schools and playing sports.

Mortality rate of those who become infected:

Not only do you have stats, science & data on your side.... the fact is that young, healthy people have about as much risk of dying from C-19 as they do from getting hit by lightning. PLUS. The post you responded to made it sound like we are marching these players at gun-point to play football. As if "the man" is going to tell these players if they do not suit up and play, their scholarship is revoked. These guys WANT to play. I'd bet that if you polled the 100 players on the Penn State roster, and asked them ... "with everything we know about C-19, do you want to play this Fall or do you want to sit out the year", that about 100 out of 100 would answer "I want to play".

And please do not give me the "these are 17-21 year olds who do not know any better". Because each one of them would go and ask thier parent, guardian or whichever adult gives them guidance.

You read that post, and it like these players are gladiators from ancient Rome and being pushed into the floor of the Coloseum behind swords and knives.

 

[canuckhal]

Abbot does have that machine that returns Covid result within 15 minutes. You would need a number of those machines and you would have to test teams, coaches and staff the day before to get the test results on time. Refs could be tested the day of the game.

Unfortunately those tests have proven to be rather inaccurate.

 

[AWS1022]

Not only do you have stats, science & data on your side.... the fact is that young, healthy people have about as much risk of dying from C-19 as they do from getting hit by lightning. PLUS. The post you responded to made it sound like we are marching these players at gun-point to play football. As if "the man" is going to tell these players if they do not suit up and play, their scholarship is revoked. These guys WANT to play. I'd bet that if you polled the 100 players on the Penn State roster, and asked them ... "with everything we know about C-19, do you want to play this Fall or do you want to sit out the year", that about 100 out of 100 would answer "I want to play".

And please do not give me the "these are 17-21 year olds who do not know any better". Because each one of them would go and ask thier parent, guardian or whichever adult gives them guidance.

You read that post, and it like these players are gladiators from ancient Rome and being pushed into the floor of the Coloseum behind swords and knives.

I would also think the coaches want to play as well....not too many coaches want to set their program back a whole year. Coaching involves so much planning and preparation...a year off would kill that. Even knowing the risks, I’ll bet they would choose to play.

 

[Woodpecker]

why is the big ten doing this? I really don't get it. When some players die because they got Covid from playing tackle football in front of zero fans, then what? Do we say that was worth it?

What difference does it make how many are in the stands?

 

[Chris92]

The PSAC, PAs D2 conference, is rumored to be cancelling this week (or moving to the spring).

PSAC has a PC scheduled for 9am tomorrow. It's expected they'll announce no fall sports then.

 

[PearlSUJam]

Only for the peasants. There's tests that take 20 minutes

Tell that to the 3 or so MLB teams that had to cancell workouts last week to wait for results.

 

[PearlSUJam]

Testing for COVID the day of/day before the game would not work because it takes 3 to 5 days to get the test results.

McGloin talks about this in his latest Podcast. He also discusses the costs of testing all of the players consistently and if conferences such as the MAC would be able to afford it or choose to. I never considered it. The feature with Charlie Fisher was great as well.

 

[bison13]

https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/...-patriot-league-fall-sports-cancellation.html

This would be a nice pickup for this year