I have tried cases in the WV courts for 29 years. No doubt we have corrupt judges and there is always stuff you do not know. That said, the situation in PA is horrifying. a huge difference in the incidence of slimy stuff.
Inky lied: Feudale provided emails to AG (link)
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That open sore is just the beginning of blemishes for Barry and his loose lips.
Judge Herpes...surprised he's not doing his Davey Crockett pose with his bowie knife. He's what everybody's looking for in a Judge - a corrupt, zero-ethics, zero-morals raging lunatic. Ummm, okay maybe not....maybe most of us citizens are looking for somebody a little more stable and with a lot better sense of fairness and equity...
And wouldn't most of that narrow scope between 2008 and 2011 be grand jury information almost by necessity?
I guess what I'm still not quite understanding is your claim that Feudale's accidental sending of the email to Moulton was illegal, particularly now that you mention that it wasn't GJ information. In fact, there's no claim at all that Feudale released GJ information - at least, not from what we've seen in those emails.
Again, Moulton's investigation wasn't about grand jury leaks. It was about what caused the delays in charging Sandusky....as evidenced by the scope stopping at when charges were filed.
Who's claiming -- besides you -- that emails in question are GJ information? Not me.
Do I believe Feudale leaked GJ info from Bonusgate and Sandusky? Yes...but not based on Kane's emails.
This is akin to a crack dealer complaining he got arrested for selling crack to an undercover cop.
Ray, again I think we may be misunderstanding each other. I'm very aware of the scope and task of Moulton's report, and that Moulton wasn't charged with investigating potential leaks - but, in the process of investigating any delays, Moulton's review surely would have including information presented to the grand jury, correct? And that would mean that Moulton's review did include protected grand jury materials, correct? I'm not talking about anything having to do with leaks.
As for the emails, didn't you claim on page one of this thread that "leaking one secret email is illegal, and he sent it to Moulton. Feudale is only slightly guilty like a woman is only slightly pregnant"? My confusion stems from the fact that it doesn't appear to me that the email Feudale sent to Moulton contained protected grand jury information, so I'm not sure how what Feudale did there was illegal - as you claimed.
I'd also be curious how you came to the belief that Feudale leaked either bonusgate or Sandusky materials - especially considering that in the only emails we've seen, he seems pretty adamant that he won't leak protected information, and that was after he was fired and would have had the clearest motive for doing so.
The talking points being used against Kane are pretty clever. But the reporters are "stupid".
Kane didn't search Feudale's emails. She had a search conducted on OAG servers for leaks. One search was for Craig McCoy and/or Angela Couloumbis. That turned up two email threads in Fina's old account. One Feudale sent to him, the other was a cc. It just happened that an intermediate email in one thread was to Feudale's lawyers. And this is ALL in the emails she released in her statement to reporters. Feudale admitted he may have sent the emails to Fina. But no, some story is woven that Kane is illegally searching his emails. The reporters just lap it up and regurgitate it without critical thought.
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In the emails Kane released to the media, there were exactly two email threads.
On 7/14/2013, Feduale emailed a thread to himself, and CC'd Frank Fina with an "fyi"
- this email was a thread that originated on 7/14/2013 from Feudale TO reporters Craig McCoy & Angela Couloumbis
On 7/8/2013, Feduale emailed a thread TO Fina with an "fyi"
- this email originated on 7/3/2013, with an email to Feudale FROM reporter Craig McCoy, mentioning their prior meeting
- the next email in the thread was on 7/8/2013 from Feduale TO reporter Craig McCoy
- Feudale then forwarded the thread TO his lawyers Stretton & Costoupolis
- Finally, Feduale forwarded The whole thread to Frank Fina
Here are the emails Kane released to the media:
http://www.yardbird.com/pdfs/BFeudale_emails_10-28-15.PDF
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9/30/2015 Article which references Kane's GJ leak suspicions
http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/sandusky-wants-subpoena-power-look-2011-case-leaks
10/27/2015, Sources: Kane's office obtained judge's private emails
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/p...dge_s_private_emails.html#vb7PcsQyd5EBEJBD.99
10/28/2015 Statement by Kathleen Kane
http://www.roxburynews.com/index.php?a=7588
10/29/2015 Cleland order
http://co.centre.pa.us/centreco/media/upload/SANDUSKY ORDER DATED OCTOBER 29 2015.pdf
Kane didn't search Feudale's emails. She had a search conducted on OAG servers for leaks. One search was for Craig McCoy and/or Angela Couloumbis. That turned up two email threads in Fina's old account. One Feudale sent to him, the other was a cc. It just happened that an intermediate email in one thread was to Feudale's lawyers. And this is ALL in the emails she released in her statement to reporters. Feudale admitted he may have sent the emails to Fina. But no, some story is woven that Kane is illegally searching his emails. The reporters just lap it up and regurgitate it without critical thought.
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In the emails Kane released to the media, there were exactly two email threads.
On 7/14/2013, Feduale emailed a thread to himself, and CC'd Frank Fina with an "fyi"
- this email was a thread that originated on 7/14/2013 from Feudale TO reporters Craig McCoy & Angela Couloumbis
On 7/8/2013, Feduale emailed a thread TO Fina with an "fyi"
- this email originated on 7/3/2013, with an email to Feudale FROM reporter Craig McCoy, mentioning their prior meeting
- the next email in the thread was on 7/8/2013 from Feduale TO reporter Craig McCoy
- Feudale then forwarded the thread TO his lawyers Stretton & Costoupolis
- Finally, Feduale forwarded The whole thread to Frank Fina
Here are the emails Kane released to the media:
http://www.yardbird.com/pdfs/BFeudale_emails_10-28-15.PDF
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9/30/2015 Article which references Kane's GJ leak suspicions
http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/sandusky-wants-subpoena-power-look-2011-case-leaks
10/27/2015, Sources: Kane's office obtained judge's private emails
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/p...dge_s_private_emails.html#vb7PcsQyd5EBEJBD.99
10/28/2015 Statement by Kathleen Kane
http://www.roxburynews.com/index.php?a=7588
10/29/2015 Cleland order
http://co.centre.pa.us/centreco/media/upload/SANDUSKY ORDER DATED OCTOBER 29 2015.pdf
The writ removing him from being a grand jury judge was filed under seal -- in other words secret. His email reveals he was corresponding with the Inky about the writ. He told the Inky he would remove two of the emails from the chain he sent to Moulton so that he wouldn't be disclosing GJ info to them -- but he nevertheless disclosed info on the writ to them.
The Inky wittingly or unwittingly revealed Feudale was the source for their July 15th 2013 story on his removal.
Of course. The Moulton timeline shows who testified before the grand jury -- sometimes by name -- and when they testified. And of course, Moulton's review would have included materials protected by grand jury secrecy.
How does any of this relate to Feudale leaking info about his writ (removal)?
How is this critical information not included in ANY of the stories about Feudale's emails? Simply mind-blowing.
In other news, if you have a question for "Flying" Judge Barry Feudale, you can ask him direct! But, first, a word of caution -- he will not be intimidated.
Maybe one day we can all be as smart as you are, Barry. Until then, I greatly appreciate Ray's assistance - not attempting to be stubborn or difficult.
Then Kane's press secretary lied too. He was quoted yesterday as saying he did not know where they got the emails and he also said Kane's office may have provided them to the press.
Then Kane's press secretary lied too. He was quoted yesterday as saying he did not know where they got the emails and he also said Kane's office may have provided them to the press.
If Kane was worth a shit and worth anyone's support she wouldn't have intentionally laid an egg with the Moulton report - She could have easily dropped the charges against C/S/S if she wanted to and it sounds like she had plenty to criminally charge Feudale but she just decided to embarrass him instead only because she was criminally charged herself.
Sounds like she is just the right person to be cleaning up Harrisburg.................................
I don't who does it, or how it happens, so long as it happens.
Why would anybody care how it gets done, or who gets credit? Unless they are afraid that when the smoke clears, the end results won't be what they want?
Why would anybody care how it gets done, or who gets credit? Unless they are afraid that when the smoke clears, the end results won't be what they want?
Oh, really. So you know what Chuck Ardo knew about how the emails were discovered?
This isn't like Sara Ganim's lies. We actually knew the information in her possession when she wrote her BS
Have to agree with you Towny.
She played politics with the case and got burned.
No excuse for her being complicit in keeping all of the PSU folk's lives on hold.
You're right, she's not ... for the long term. But she sure as hell can put a big crimp on the current king makers . Her enemies have been playing this game a long time and getting away with it. As soon as she hit town and thought she could play the same game, all of a sudden the rules changed and she was too dumb to initially see it. They are just dying to get her shipped out of town ASAP in the hopes of keeping their own nonsense hidden. The fire hoses need to be turned onto all the stalls in the barn to clean out all the horse manure, not just select stalls. I hope she keeps it going and gets it all out before she is brought down.
Lionlurker, I'm trying to track down Lubert's relationship with the Inquirer but the ownership of the Inquirer is convoluted - another for profit entity owned by a non-profit. Can you point me to something that shows how Lubert has some ownership or control? Is it through his son Jonathan? Thanks,
How does Lubert control the Inquirer? I have been looking for that connection. Cannot find one but I have really crappy Internet skills. You mention his son but couldn't find a connection there either. Philadelphia Media Network, or Gerry Lenfest, owns the paper. Where does Lubert fit in? Thanks.
LINK: Lenfest donates newspapers, website to new media institute
INCOMING!
On Tuesday, in a meeting with employees and then at a news conference at the Constitution Center, Lenfest formally announced the details of a complicated transaction designed to ensure that quality journalism endures in Philadelphia for generations.
The move places the region's dominant news-gatherers under the auspices of the nonprofit Philadelphia Foundation.
"In a democracy," foundation President and CEO Pedro Ramos said at the Constitution Center, "great cities need and depend on quality journalism."
Lenfest's gift will support and enhance "nothing less than an essential element of our democracy," Ramos said.
Maybe I am nissing it but I still do not see Lubert mentioned as having an interest or control of the paper and website.
I roomed with Gerry Lenfest's son, Brook, at PSU. Nice guy and best part of deal was getting free cable.
I don't believe he does. The article makes no mention of Ira Lubert. I'm not sure what control he has over or influence with the Philadelphia Foundation. Perhaps he has some peripheral influence as a donor. Doubt that it amounts to much control of the Inky. Pennlive beat the Inky to the punch on the most recent distortion.
LINK: Philadelphia Foundation Board
LINK: Philadelphia Foundation Leadership & Staff
Lubert's son is the point man with the Inky. Google Lubert and Lenfest; they come up together all the time. I don't know how the actual connection works, but there is way too much coincidence in how the Inquirer constantly sides with the BOT point of view, never does any investigation, and is always first-out with a story that the Move On crowd loves.
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like i said the other night... you've got kiddie porn all over the pc's of intel folks... you have countless major underage trafficking occurring that somehow the "see everything" folks manage to miss... it isn't a conspiracy and it isn't a shock.. you've got well positioned people of influence who are not people of good intentions... bad people well embedded inside the inner circle.
and plenty of shitheads (some with badges) with their back.
simply read about the franklin scandal and if you don't get it then you never will.
the second mile demanded a thorough investigation.. how'd that work out?
