Interesting Barron sighting.......

[bjf1984]

may be more information shortly. Stay tuned.


Doesn't appear to be anything overtly significant at this point.

Interesting, but not overtly significant.


Hopefully, someone who was at the committee meetings in person (I am not) will be able to give a thorough summary of anything of importance.......maybe one of the Trustees (Alice or Anthony).

I'll be there tomorrow.

 

[psuguy04]

Ok...???

 

[Peetz Pool Boy]

may be more information shortly. Stay tuned.

On an unrelated topic, elorac posted yesterday about some letter the that Tom Poodle sent to you in response to your comments about the Red Barron's letter to certain BOT members, but when I opened it, there was nothing there...and her post was soon deleted.

Is this something that you can comment on at this time? Perhaps the posts are related. Did you just observe Eric "Dough Boy" Barron near your house toting canisters of gasoline and a Scripto lighter, by chance?

Thanks

 

[Talpsu]

I gonna go out on a limb and say someone is asking Ole Hands up some questions

 

[PSUSignore]

Step 1 - collect necessary information and determine if it's worth sharing
Step 2 - create post

What is the point of the initial post?

 

[Peetz Pool Boy]

I gonna go out on a limb and say someone is asking Ole Hands up some questions

I'm going with a visit to 83x McKee St. While under the guise of an insincere "Honoring Joe" tease visit, he proceeded to plant listening devices under the famed kitchen table.

Are there no limits to how low this administration will stoop?

 

[bjf1984]

Step 1 - collect necessary information and determine if it's worth sharing
Step 2 - create post

What is the point of the initial post?

Very few folks have the flexibility to attend the Thursday afternoon meetings in person......thought some might want to be kept appraised......as it turned out, to the best of my knowledge there was not anything (publically) of particular note discussed (well, maybe one thing, but whether it was significant or not will probably not be determined until tomorrow).

Do you ever prefer to watch a game? Or would it only be proper to be informed of the score after it is concluded?

That was the point.

 

[PennSt8er]

may be more information shortly. Stay tuned.


Doesn't appear to be anything overtly significant at this point.

Interesting, but not overtly significant.


Hopefully, someone who was at the committee meetings in person (I am not) will be able to give a thorough summary of anything of importance.......maybe one of the Trustees (Alice or Anthony).

I'll be there tomorrow.

Was he served a subpoena? That would be awesome.

 

[bjf1984]

Was he served a subpoena? That would be awesome.

LOL Unfortunately not......probably was served a few danishes though.

 

[bjf1984]

may be more information shortly. Stay tuned.


Doesn't appear to be anything overtly significant at this point.

Interesting, but not overtly significant.


Hopefully, someone who was at the committee meetings in person (I am not) will be able to give a thorough summary of anything of importance.......maybe one of the Trustees (Alice or Anthony).

I'll be there tomorrow.

OK The news appears to be out there.........David Han - one of the founders of UpYours State is the newly knighted Faculty Rep (also was past president of PSU Alumni Disassociation).

So - A guy who Penn Staters soundly rejected when he ran for an elected seat.......and who's organization Penn Staters soundly rejected when he founded UpYours State......is given a seat by these wonderful Scoundrels who are "serving" Penn State.

You couldn't make this sh&t up.

Business as usual. I will look forward to the Elected Trustees thoughts.

 

[bjf1984]

OK The news appears to be out there.........One of the founders of UpYours State is the newly knighted Faculty Rep (also was past president of PSU Alumni Disassociation.

Business as usual. I will look forward to the Elected Trustees thoughts.

Leadership also announced that they are looking to "redo" the PSU Logo (seriously)

So long as the Cabal remains in power, I recommend the following:

 

[kgilbert78]

Leadership also announced that they are looking to "redo" the PSU Logo (seriously)

So long as the Cabal remains in power, I recommend the following:

I was thinking more of this

They had a Politburo....

 

[Keyser Soze 16801]

OK The news appears to be out there.........One of the founders of UpYours State is the newly knighted Faculty Rep (also was past president of PSU Alumni Disassociation).

So - A guy who Penn Staters soundly rejected when he ran for an elected seat.......and who's organization Penn Staters soundly rejected when he founded UpYours State......is given a seat by these wonderful Scoundrels who are "serving" Penn State.

You couldn't make this sh&t up.

Business as usual. I will look forward to the Elected Trustees thoughts.

Name?

 

[bjf1984]

I was thinking more of this

They had a Politburo....

Your's is better

 

[Art]

Your's is better

How about this one?

 

[nitnyheel]

Dr. Han, I presume.

 

[bjf1984]

Dr. Han, I presume.

Oh, Jesus, yes.....just realized I didn't list his name....will edit that

 

[Sharkies]

I'm seriously this close to giving up on this sad University I once loved. We have no hope. We were outnumbered when we had all 9 alumni trustees in our favor and now they are continuing to stack the deck in the cabal's favor. I've stopped contributing directly to their bottom line but I'm a nobody and they couldn't give two shits about me, apparently.

I just have this sick feeling of hopelessness and quite honestly if it wasn't for the like minded individuals on the McAndrew board, I wouldve given up long ago... I'm jus so sad.

 

[Keyser Soze 16801]

Every time we think the situation can't get more ridiculous, it does

 

[fairgambit]

I'm seriously this close to giving up on this sad University I once loved. We have no hope. We were outnumbered when we had all 9 alumni trustees in our favor and now they are continuing to stack the deck in the cabal's favor. I've stopped contributing directly to their bottom line but I'm a nobody and they couldn't give two shits about me, apparently.

I just have this sick feeling of hopelessness and quite honestly if it wasn't for the like minded individuals on the McAndrew board, I wouldve given up long ago... I'm just so sad.

Me too, Sharkies, and many others as well, but you know what? They don't give a damn. They will get our meager contributions from someone else. Unless you contribute millions, no one gives a shit. You know what. That's OK. My life will go on. I have family, and friends, and memories of happier times at Penn State.

 

[bjf1984]

How about this one?

Good one (I had to look it up).




Gotta' admit.....there is something there..

 

[bjf1984]

Me too, Sharkies, and many others as well, but you know what? They don't give a damn. They will get our meager contributions from someone else. Unless you contribute millions, no one gives a shit. You know what. That's OK. My life will go on. I have family, and friends, and memories of happier times at Penn State.

Truth of the matter is, they (the Scoundrels) don't really care about the folks who contribute millions........the folks they do care about are the ones that will cooperate with them as they steal millions.

You really think a guy like Dambly gives a hoot about some doofus who is dumb enough to give $1,000,000 to PSU no strings attached?

These folks only care about the folks who will conspire with them to raid the University's treasury.

 

[fairgambit]

Truth of the matter is, they (the Scoundrels) don't really care about the folks who contribute millions........the folks they do care about are the ones that will cooperate with them as they steal millions.

You really think a guy like Dambly gives a hoot about some doofus who is dumb enough to give $1,000,000 to PSU no strings attached?

These folks only care about the folks who will conspire with them to raid the University's treasury.

You're probably right about that. A million is chump change to them.

 

[Cruising Route 66]

Step 1 - collect necessary information and determine if it's worth sharing
Step 2 - create post

What is the point of the initial post?

It's a veiled way of proclaiming his own sense of self importance.

 

[bjf1984]

It's a veiled way of proclaiming his own sense of self importance.

Please, tell me a guy with a tag line of "MAKING THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE JUST BY SHOWING UP" didn't just try to make the claim that someone else was feeling self important?
Really?
That may just be your all time standard.


BTW - Offer still stands.....you anonymous sycophant. Kinda' surprised you would have the nerve to stick your nose in, after having to admit to being such a wuss - but then again, its par for the course for a guy like you.

 

[Jack Hammer]

It's a veiled way of proclaiming his own sense of self importance.

As opposed to your transparent display of bootlicking mendacity.

 

[lattydaddy]

I'm willing to give this Han guy a chance to prove his worth. I think he could bring some well-needed fresh perspective to our board.

 

[bjf1984]

Of all the thousands who could have been chosen......the Scoundrels selected the guy who had been soundly rejected by Penn Staters.
You don't have a problem with that?
You can't see WHY they would do such a thing?
Really?

 

[71camaro]

Han wasn't selected by the BOT, he's the new faculty representative. He was selected by the Faculty Senate. Now, I can see you guys argue they're also evil, but if even the faculty are the bad guys, just who are the good guys?

 

[71camaro]

I'm also not sure what's odd about seeing Barron being at BOT meetings- he's at most of them.

 

[bjf1984]

I'm also not sure what's odd about seeing Barron being at BOT meetings- he's at most of them.

Not the committee meetings....that is what was going on today

 

[bjf1984]

Han wasn't selected by the BOT, he's the new faculty representative. He was selected by the Faculty Senate. Now, I can see you guys argue they're also evil, but if even the faculty are the bad guys, just who are the good guys?

Completely untrue.

Not sure if you are unaware...or trying to promote an agenda....but the procedure (taken directly from the new ByLaws) is as follows:

The name and qualifications of the candidate recommended by the Committee on Governance and Long Range Planning (INSERT: this is a three member panel of existing scoundrels) shall be submitted for confirmation by the Board of Trustees (for approval or rejection of the recommended candidate only).

Now, where you actually unaware of the procedure?

 

[Art]

Completely untrue.

Not sure if you are unaware...or trying to promote an agenda....but the procedure (taken directly from the new ByLaws) is as follows:

The name and qualifications of the candidate recommended by the Committee on Governance and Long Range Planning (INSERT: this is a three member panel of existing scoundrels) shall be submitted for confirmation by the Board of Trustees (for approval or rejection of the recommended candidate only).

Now, where you actually unaware of the procedure?

Think you missed something, Barry. The Faculty Senate selects a candidate who then goes through the procedure you outlined. Not a fan of that procedure.

Don't know much about Dr. Han, but he does have one strike against him: he was on the Search Committee for Rod's replacement. Actually, make that two strikes.

 

[lattydaddy]

Of all the thousands who could have been chosen......the Scoundrels selected the guy who had been soundly rejected by Penn Staters.
You don't have a problem with that?
You can't see WHY they would do such a thing?
Really?

Sounds like you're rushing to judgment on this guy, no? Give him a chance? When you say soundly rejected, most people don't even know a thing about him, all they know is he wasn't endorsed by PS4RS, which is all it takes to sway votes.

 

[bjf1984]

Think you missed something, Barry. The Faculty Senate selects a candidate who then goes through the procedure you outlined. Not a fan of that procedure.

Don't know much about Dr. Han, but he does have one strike against him: he was on the Search Committee for Rod's replacement. Actually, make that two strikes.

Its not like the Faculty Senate elects a guy....not at all. The bottom line is the Chairman of the BOT, through his appointed "selection panel" gets his guy.

Which explains why we get a big FU with the UpYours State Bozo (BTW, the resemblance to the Korean tyrant is unmistakable LOL)

Here is the whole thing:

1. The University Faculty Senate shall recommend, in accordance with procedures and guidelines established by the Faculty Senate and approved by the Committee on Governance and Long Range Planning of the Board of Trustees from time to time, a preferred candidate for membership on the Board of Trustees representing the faculty of the University.2
2. Three trustees to be appointed by the Chair of the Board of Trustees shall interview the preferred candidate (and, if necessary, the alternate candidates) and shall forward the recommended candidate’s name to the Committee on Governance and Long Range Planning of the Board of Trustees, which shall make a recommendation to the Board of Trustees.
3. The name and qualifications of the candidate recommended by the Committee on Governance and Long Range Planning shall be submitted for confirmation by the Board of Trustees (for approval or rejection of the recommended candidate only). It is expected that the Committee on Governance and Long Range Planning would recommend, and the Board of Trustees would approve, the candidate recommended by the Faculty Senate unless issues with the recommended candidate’s background check or other issues arise or exist that in the opinion of the Board of Trustees would make the preferred candidate unsuitable for service on the Board of Trustees. The Faculty Senate shall treat as confidential the identities of all candidates.
4. The election of the Academic Trustee shall be held at the May meeting of the Board of Trustees.

 

[91Joe95]

Sounds like you're rushing to judgment on this guy, no? Give him a chance? When you say soundly rejected, most people don't even know a thing about him, all they know is he wasn't endorsed by PS4RS, which is all it takes to sway votes.

Why do you act like these people have no track record?

 

[71camaro]

Its not like the Faculty Senate elects a guy....not at all. The bottom line is the Chairman of the BOT, through his appointed "selection panel" gets his guy.

Which explains why we get a big FU with the UpYours State Bozo (BTW, the resemblance to the Korean tyrant is unmistakable LOL)

Here is the whole thing:

1. The University Faculty Senate shall recommend, in accordance with procedures and guidelines established by the Faculty Senate and approved by the Committee on Governance and Long Range Planning of the Board of Trustees from time to time, a preferred candidate for membership on the Board of Trustees representing the faculty of the University.2
2. Three trustees to be appointed by the Chair of the Board of Trustees shall interview the preferred candidate (and, if necessary, the alternate candidates) and shall forward the recommended candidate’s name to the Committee on Governance and Long Range Planning of the Board of Trustees, which shall make a recommendation to the Board of Trustees.
3. The name and qualifications of the candidate recommended by the Committee on Governance and Long Range Planning shall be submitted for confirmation by the Board of Trustees (for approval or rejection of the recommended candidate only). It is expected that the Committee on Governance and Long Range Planning would recommend, and the Board of Trustees would approve, the candidate recommended by the Faculty Senate unless issues with the recommended candidate’s background check or other issues arise or exist that in the opinion of the Board of Trustees would make the preferred candidate unsuitable for service on the Board of Trustees. The Faculty Senate shall treat as confidential the identities of all candidates.
4. The election of the Academic Trustee shall be held at the May meeting of the Board of Trustees.

But they do... The BOT's role is to provide a background check and rubber stamp him. I get that you have your agenda, but don't obfuscate the truth. The Faculty Senate selects him, the BOT committee vets him, and the board approves him. It's similar to the process for the student trustee.

 

[71camaro]

Not the committee meetings....that is what was going on today

I've covered committee meetings multiple times for the Collegian, he is usually there and even speaks on occasion.

 

[Art]

Its not like the Faculty Senate elects a guy....not at all. The bottom line is the Chairman of the BOT, through his appointed "selection panel" gets his guy.

Which explains why we get a big FU with the UpYours State Bozo (BTW, the resemblance to the Korean tyrant is unmistakable LOL)

Here is the whole thing:

1. The University Faculty Senate shall recommend, in accordance with procedures and guidelines established by the Faculty Senate and approved by the Committee on Governance and Long Range Planning of the Board of Trustees from time to time, a preferred candidate for membership on the Board of Trustees representing the faculty of the University.2
2. Three trustees to be appointed by the Chair of the Board of Trustees shall interview the preferred candidate (and, if necessary, the alternate candidates) and shall forward the recommended candidate’s name to the Committee on Governance and Long Range Planning of the Board of Trustees, which shall make a recommendation to the Board of Trustees.
3. The name and qualifications of the candidate recommended by the Committee on Governance and Long Range Planning shall be submitted for confirmation by the Board of Trustees (for approval or rejection of the recommended candidate only). It is expected that the Committee on Governance and Long Range Planning would recommend, and the Board of Trustees would approve, the candidate recommended by the Faculty Senate unless issues with the recommended candidate’s background check or other issues arise or exist that in the opinion of the Board of Trustees would make the preferred candidate unsuitable for service on the Board of Trustees. The Faculty Senate shall treat as confidential the identities of all candidates.
4. The election of the Academic Trustee shall be held at the May meeting of the Board of Trustees.

Barry,

A friendly suggestion: pick your battles. If you want to pick all of them, rock on!

As I said, I'm not a fan of the outlined procedures. My comments:

1. Much prefer to see a candidate selected by the entire faculty. Could see how that might be unwieldy, so the Senate is acceptable.

2. Don't understand the need for intermediate step 2. Bureaucracy is us! The faculty has spoken, their candidate selected.

3. This has the potential to open Pandora's Box. Assume the only reason a candidate would be rejected is if the candidate didn't pass a background check (don't like this "other issues" shit at all). Well, wouldn't the candidate have been subject to a background check as a condition of employment as a PSU faculty member? And what happens if the candidate is rejected? Do we automatically assume a failed background check? If so, does the candidate lose his or her faculty job at PSU (there cannot be different standards for faculty and BoT positions). Is the candidate's reputation permanently tainted by the rejection?

So how much did PSU pay that ninny, Holly Gregory, for this travesty?

 

[bjf1984]

Barry,

A friendly suggestion: pick your battles. If you want to pick all of them, rock on!

As I said, I'm not a fan of the outlined procedures. My comments:

1. Much prefer to see a candidate selected by the entire faculty. Could see how that might be unwieldy, so the Senate is acceptable.

2. Don't understand the need for intermediate step 2. Bureaucracy is us! The faculty has spoken, their candidate selected.

3. This has the potential to open Pandora's Box. Assume the only reason a candidate would be rejected is if the candidate didn't pass a background check (don't like this "other issues" shit at all). Well, wouldn't the candidate have been subject to a background check as a condition of employment as a PSU faculty member? And what happens if the candidate is rejected? Do we automatically assume a failed background check? If so, does the candidate lose his or her faculty job at PSU (there cannot be different standards for faculty and BoT positions). Is the candidate's reputation permanently tainted by the rejection?

So how much did PSU pay that ninny, Holly Gregory, for this travesty?

I will admit, I'm in a bit of a mood tonight Art....and maybe that is clouding my judgment. Had one of the more interesting "interactions" of this whole affair....depending on how it works out, I may make a post about it down the road.
Suffice to say, I'm not feeling particularly benevolent tonight.