Iowa adds Women’s wrestling team!
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Amazing that they only have 8 men’s teams.
Good for Iowa to break the seal here - hopefully we follow soon
Good for Iowa to break the seal here - hopefully we follow soon
Great job, Iowa… and I hate typing that.
Let the floodgates open!
Let the floodgates open!
This gives the Hawkeyes the appropriate lead and bragging rights to have the most D1 Women's Wresting Nat'l Titles until we get on board....
Lock Haven is ahead of Iowa.
Would be good to get enough Power 5 schools onboard to have a conference. Other factors not considered, schools with RTCs would make the most sense.
Those women will Hate Wrestling soon!
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Bittersweet.
Happy for the women who will wrestle at Iowa, and the growth opportunity for the sport.
Also sad for the Iowa athletes whose 4 sports were cut a mere 13 months ago, a decision reinforced by the AD in February discussing the $50-60M budget deficit, only to see the school add a new team today.
Happy for the women who will wrestle at Iowa, and the growth opportunity for the sport.
Also sad for the Iowa athletes whose 4 sports were cut a mere 13 months ago, a decision reinforced by the AD in February discussing the $50-60M budget deficit, only to see the school add a new team today.
Lock Haven is Division I in men's wrestling (and field hockey). They are not a Division I institution in totality. Iowa becomes the third full-Division I member to add the sport after Presbyterian and Sacred Heart.
I'll start by saying I hope PSU adds a women's team and the sport continues growing.
But, until there are intercollegiate duals and tournaments, what is the real difference between having a women's wrestling team and supporting women through the RTC?
Having typed that, it sounds negative or dismissive, and I don't intend it that way at all. I think this is a great development and I hope many other schools, including PSU, follow suit. I'm just looking for what the material difference will be beyond being able to say they have an official collegiate women's wrestling team.
But, until there are intercollegiate duals and tournaments, what is the real difference between having a women's wrestling team and supporting women through the RTC?
Having typed that, it sounds negative or dismissive, and I don't intend it that way at all. I think this is a great development and I hope many other schools, including PSU, follow suit. I'm just looking for what the material difference will be beyond being able to say they have an official collegiate women's wrestling team.
College wrestling women's duals and tournaments have been going on since 2001ish. The first organized women's college championship event was approximately in 2004.
The fact there hasn't been D1 schools adding the sport until the last 2-3 years doesn't mean there hasn't been viable competition for coming up on 20 years.
There's more to life than men's Division I wrestling on the landscape of college wrestling. There's 451 varsity teams at the men's and women's level outside of the 78 D1 men's teams.
Presbyterian and Sacred Heart are more like Division 1 JV. But still, interesting info.
I agree would guys like Perry,Ramos or Engel want the job. Or women like Vandiver or Chun
He kinda resembles Dake from 600 years ago.
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Ya know...since Kyle reverse ages and all.
Despite the dropping of the program, Troy is still under contract, which is why the administration (with help from the Fresno Bee) has been after him in the court of public opinion to get him fired with the alleged NCAA violations. They're still on the hook for Troy's salary through 2023.
Hopefully serious traction happens in a hurry….we need 37 more D1 teams to field a NCAA championship and make Women’s D1 wrestling s permanent sport.
Research emerging sports beach volleyball and women's bowling. To be an NCAA Championship sport, you need 40 NCAA schools. That gets you rolling. When there's enough growth for a divisional breakout, then you get divisional championships.
We need 40 schools active for at least a season with set roster counts and enough countable dates to be an NCAA championship sport, not 37 more D1 teams.
Please let's get our facts clear and correct before the incorrect assumptions get repeated as fact.
Dude.....cut the sh@t with all these facts.
. Seriously.....good for Iowa.....would love to see another Pa. team do it ...hint....hint.... to get all those Sem. recruits Wut? There are 3. Iowa is not the 1st. You need 40 total at each division to field a championship at each division so by my math 40-3 is 37. D1 was only recently given emerging status.
(DIII needs 28 if it’s a team sport)
But if I’m wrong, no need to act like I’m completely off base, which I’m not. I admit to not seeing anything that says all levels can combine first and then split. All I know is each level needs 40….which I have only ever read.
Brands says they will hire the best coach in America. Oh crap I guess that means Cael is leaving happy valley!
You aren't completely off base, but you've missing a ton of steps in between, so right now, you're not accurate in how you're saying to get to championship status.
Remember, men's NCAA wrestling was one division until it split to University/College and then reorganized again in the early 1970s into three divisions. There's 50-something years between the start of men's NCAA wrestling and the three divisional structure.
To be clear, I said research beach volleyball and women's bowling. That gives the exact blue print how a sport goes from emerging to championship. If you'll notice, there are not Division I championships in a number of sports, rather, they are national collegiate championships, NCAA championships.
The emerging sport needs first to become a championship sport (40 across the entire association) to get to that first championship threshold. Right now, Beach Volleyball has an NCAA makeup of 64-16-4 by division. D1 could conceivably break off for its own championship now, but it's still a single division National Collegiate Championship.
It's going to be a good decade before we even sniff a divisional split within the NCAA. Half of your statement is correct and the other half isn't truly accurate.
"we need 37 more D1 teams to field a NCAA championship" - FALSE. An NCAA championship isn't strictly Division 1.
"and make Women’s D1 wrestling s permanent sport." - Partially accurate, partially not. You do need 37 more D1 teams to field to qualify for a separate Division 1 championship, but not an NCAA championship.
Yes, I know it's nuance, semantics, details, but those things are important. It's not intended as a shot in any way, but sometimes things get repeated enough that people believe them to be facts. Problem is no one's ever asked the question the right way to get the right answer.
I'm not trying to be d*ck about it, just want everyone to know the facts of how this actually works and there are ways to seek that path from emerging to championship. Follow that lead if you're truly interested. It's how I learned about how the system works. Feel free to shoot me a message off the board if you want to discuss it better than a forum back-and-forth. Context and tone helps with discussions like this.
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Listening to Willie and Corby speculate about possible coaches and they're insistent that Iowa doesn't hire non-alumna, but they missed two recent examples: Kurt Backes and Ben Berhow (ISU and Minnesota). They also had Jared Frayer on staff as the volunteer assistant early in the Brands tenure.
I think the idea that they won't consider outside candidates, especially when they don't have any alumni with women's coaching experience, is a little quick. It's also a little weird that they listed Brands hiring people he's comfortable with when Brands was pretty straight forward that the women's team will be their own stand alone program. It's a little different than hiring an assistant you're going to supervise.
I think the idea that they won't consider outside candidates, especially when they don't have any alumni with women's coaching experience, is a little quick. It's also a little weird that they listed Brands hiring people he's comfortable with when Brands was pretty straight forward that the women's team will be their own stand alone program. It's a little different than hiring an assistant you're going to supervise.
Agreed that it's a little quick. Guessing it's for the ability to raise money among Iowa alumni.
Definitely can see Brands wanting familiarity. He will share the new facility with the women's team, they'll probably roll up to the same Assistant AD, have similar daily/annual training calendars ... all of that is less of a distraction with a known commodity.
It's certainly possible that he would hire an alum, but he's brought in outside people plenty during his tenure. The 3 coaches I mentioned, the Dardanes bros, the 8 HWC women, Safarov, Duroe, etc...Plenty of precedent to think outsiders will be under consideration.
Why did Iowa add womens wrestling?
https://www.iowapublicradio.org/ipr...stling-as-part-of-title-ix-lawsuit-settlement
https://www.iowapublicradio.org/ipr...stling-as-part-of-title-ix-lawsuit-settlement
They had to know this was gonna leak...right? Altruism Iowa style!!!
I mean, Barta straight up addressed this in the opening statements of the press conference. I'm not a fan of any college administrator who cuts sports, but can't say they were trying to bury this one - he had to swallow ownership of this one in terms of how impactful the Title IX lawsuit was.
