Is Clemens withdrawal good, bad, or indifferent?

[canuckhal]

NCAA seems to be picking them off one by one. Anyone know if Clemens withdrawal from Pateno suit good, bad or indifferent? He must have thought his presence would have hurt their chances. http://www.centredaily.com/2015/05/19/4755692/former-trustee-alvin-clemens-withdraws.html

Another plaintiff has dropped from the lawsuit pitting the Paterno estate against the NCAA and Penn State.

Former university trustee Al Clemens voluntarily withdrew as a plaintiff on Monday, following a list of points raised by the NCAA in a new matter filed in April.

Read more here: http://www.centredaily.com/2015/05/...ee-alvin-clemens-withdraws.html#storylink=cpy

 

[psu00]

NCAA seems to be picking them off one by one. Anyone know if Clemens withdrawal from Pateno suit good, bad or indifferent? He must have thought his presence would have hurt their chances. http://www.centredaily.com/2015/05/19/4755692/former-trustee-alvin-clemens-withdraws.html

Another plaintiff has dropped from the lawsuit pitting the Paterno estate against the NCAA and Penn State.

Former university trustee Al Clemens voluntarily withdrew as a plaintiff on Monday, following a list of points raised by the NCAA in a new matter filed in April.

Read more here: http://www.centredaily.com/2015/05/...ee-alvin-clemens-withdraws.html#storylink=cpy

Don't know. At first look I'm pretty disappointed he withdrew- the more arrows in the quiver, the better. Hopefully there's a higher plan here but I'm not sure- especially the way the lawsuits have settled or gone away so far.

 

[BlueBand]

I don't have any inside info, but the Paterno suit approach was always a bit of throw a lot against the wall and see what sticks. That doesn't mean it didn't have merit, but they basically said we're going to come at you from multiple directions, and if we lose a few battles along the way, that's OK. Made the NCAA prepare to defend on multiple fronts, and gave the court a way to "cut back" and focus the case, without the court dismissing the entire thing. Probably a very good strategy, given the situation.

Of course, you'd rather have more parties and angles in your arsenal, but I have a feeling this wasn't a unilateral decision with Clemens, and that the Paterno team felt by him dropping it, it cuts the legs out from the NCAA's latest arguments, and still preserves the overall case.

Of course, there's not much left to cut now in terms of parties to the suit, so let's hope they have a strong enough case to keep it moving forward.

 

[BBHorn86]

There is a saying in the financial markets "markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent."

The NCAA and the OG BOT have deep pockets, all the time in the world and full conviction to make the false narrative stick. I sure hope the Paterno's have the resources to hang in there until the bitter end but it will not be easy. Another concern, Thornburg is no spring chicken so the longer this drags on the risk is he becomes less effective leaving Sollers on thin ice. Not sure what the contingency plan is if this starts to fall apart.

I suspect there will be a day years down the line that one of the key players (Spanier, Curley, etc.) tells the other side of the story but I have a sick feeling the sand is running out of the hour glass regarding the true story.

 

[fairgambit]

I suspect there will be a day years down the line that one of the key players (Spanier, Curley, etc.) tells the other side of the story but I have a sick feeling the sand is running out of the hour glass regarding the true story.

I have that same feeling. Time is not on our side.

 

[91Joe95]

Never cared for the guy.

 

[nits74]

NCAA seems to be picking them off one by one. Anyone know if Clemens withdrawal from Pateno suit good, bad or indifferent? He must have thought his presence would have hurt their chances. http://www.centredaily.com/2015/05/19/4755692/former-trustee-alvin-clemens-withdraws.html

Another plaintiff has dropped from the lawsuit pitting the Paterno estate against the NCAA and Penn State.

Former university trustee Al Clemens voluntarily withdrew as a plaintiff on Monday, following a list of points raised by the NCAA in a new matter filed in April.

Read more here: http://www.centredaily.com/2015/05/...ee-alvin-clemens-withdraws.html#storylink=cpy

I've come to the conclusion that there is no sense worrying anymore about something over which we have no control. I doubt this is going to go our way simply because the entire system is corrupt and far too powerful. We're probably better served at this point focusing on our own lives and not wasting more time with this. Just my opinion, but the game seems to be about over. Penn State means next to nothing to me now. And the funny thing is I'm no longer even angry, just indifferent.

 

[canuckhal]

Gee Nits, that is pretty sad. It pisses me off because PSU has become synonymous with Sandusky and Freeh, and devalues my education and pride in the school. I, like others, am still holding for truth, whether good or bad. I still carry the torch of hope, but have no idea how long it will take. Perhaps it will be when the old guard BOTs leave and the cabal is broken.

 

[lionlurker]

I have heard that whatever this is costing, the Paterno's aren't paying for it. They have a lot of financial backing.

 

[nits74]

Gee Nits, that is pretty sad. It pisses me off because PSU has become synonymous with Sandusky and Freeh, and devalues my education and pride in the school. I, like others, am still holding for truth, whether good or bad. I still carry the torch of hope, but have no idea how long it will take. Perhaps it will be when the old guard BOTs leave and the cabal is broken.

I know. Just have grown weary of hearing that good news is just around the corner, so and so has inside information, Fed investigation, and on and on. If something were going to break, we would have heard it by now. Truth is, Penn State's name will never be restored because the time for that has come and gone. Any news now will be greeted with a collective yawn. And the new Penn State is nothing I take any pride in. Not saying that is the way everyone should feel, but it will never be the same for me.

 

[NICNEM_PSU80]

We must all be patient because we cannot control the time line. What we can control is our resolve, which in my case and I hope all of the rest of us, will never die until we get out the vast majority of the truth.

Sandusky's appeal will unfortunately delay the CSS trial even further because the State does not want new testimony and evidence to come out that might weaken the case in the event the appeal and a new trial goes forward. From my perspective, a new trial should be granted because of the number of issues with the first trial. Police lying, No Victim # 2 identified, induced memories, bad representation. Sandusky still is guilty of some things but not all, I would guess. We will have to relive that trial again but it will likely have a modified result. The State can't have CSS testimony undermining the facts of the case so it may take years for this to conclude.

That said we should be pushing for the CSS trials to take place as soon as possible. I would love to hear from Demlion and other attorneys on how we could push the state to move forward. 3 years to get to court. There has to be some state limitation on bringing a trial to court. I would love to have the CSS trials take place before the appeal and retrial takes place. It would expedite the process.