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Is Urban too toxic to land a college job right now? Things remain shaky in Jacksonville.

It is a fact of sports life/business that if you have the skill and/or aptitude to perform a job better than anyone else you will receive and continue to receive job offers irrespective of any 'baggage' associated with your name, image and likeness

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Give it a year or two. This will be old news.
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I think that I am missing something with this story. Urban Meyer was essentially caught cheating on his wife, at least that is the implication. Why is this such big news? I am not condoning it or saying it's okay, but it happens everyday especially in professional sports. I don't understand how it will affect his ability to coach his players. For one thing, I really doubt any of them care. More importantly, if any of the players, fans, or the owner for that matter, were expecting an angel when they hired Urban Meyer they were either very ignorant or at least, very naive.
Personally, I don't care whether my boss is faithful or not and it certainly doesn't impact my ability to do my job.
 
Despite the ethical arguments here, I'm not sure why this situation is such a big deal for an NFL team. Sounds more like something between Urban and his wife than Urban and the Jaguars.
 
I think that I am missing something with this story. Urban Meyer was essentially caught cheating on his wife, at least that is the implication. Why is this such big news? I am not condoning it or saying it's okay, but it happens everyday especially in professional sports. I don't understand how it will affect his ability to coach his players. For one thing, I really doubt any of them care. More importantly, if any of the players, fans, or the owner for that matter, were expecting an angel when they hired Urban Meyer they were either very ignorant or at least, very naive.
Personally, I don't care whether my boss is faithful or not and it certainly doesn't impact my ability to do my job.
Are you saying that integrity doesn't matter? That certainly seems to be the current of the nation these days. Maybe you'll find out that your hypothetically cheating boss does something underhanded to derail your career. I believe you would care about his integrity then.
 
Despite the ethical arguments here, I'm not sure why this situation is such a big deal for an NFL team. Sounds more like something between Urban and his wife than Urban and the Jaguars.

It seems 2-pronged from what I can tell. Firstly, I get the sense it was not communicated to the team or management that he was not going to travel back to Florida instead, remain in Ohio. I would call not travelling back with your team after a big loss to be highly unusual, especially if not communicated to management. It's at least a little dishonest to then say you were there to visit your grandchildren(whether he told that to management before or after he remained in Ohio), then have videos go viral of you at a bar cavorting and flirting with a woman. Its not the infidelity as much as I think it's the deceitfulness and incredibly poor judgment to do this in public. I could be wrong, but I have not seen too many NFL HC's in this predicament, publicly, none the less an 0-4 1st year coach. I think at best it shows incredibly poor judgement and dishonesty, more likely, it represents a rogue employee that thinks that he is above the rules. It definitely needed to be called out by team management with concern that this type of behavior would be tolerable by other employees in management, coaching, or on the field.
 
I think that I am missing something with this story. Urban Meyer was essentially caught cheating on his wife, at least that is the implication. Why is this such big news? I am not condoning it or saying it's okay, but it happens everyday especially in professional sports. I don't understand how it will affect his ability to coach his players. For one thing, I really doubt any of them care. More importantly, if any of the players, fans, or the owner for that matter, were expecting an angel when they hired Urban Meyer they were either very ignorant or at least, very naive.
Personally, I don't care whether my boss is faithful or not and it certainly doesn't impact my ability to do my job.
Well for one instead of going over game film and trying to figure out what has gone wrong (everything) he stayed in Cbus playing grab ass with a girl that could be his daughter. Gross and Creepy.
Did you see the comments from the players? They were unimpressed and then Ubsie lived of to his moniker and lied about the apology. I think they cared. They see the hypocrisy just like we do, well most of us.
Did you see what the Owner said? Not exactly a ringing endorsement.
As for the last part, I doubt your job has very little in common with the players.
 
The Robert Kraft massage parlor fiasco seems to be largely forgotten, but admittedly that’s a different type of alleged misbehavior.
 
It seems 2-pronged from what I can tell. Firstly, I get the sense it was not communicated to the team or management that he was not going to travel back to Florida instead, remain in Ohio. I would call not travelling back with your team after a big loss to be highly unusual, especially if not communicated to management. It's at least a little dishonest to then say you were there to visit your grandchildren(whether he told that to management before or after he remained in Ohio), then have videos go viral of you at a bar cavorting and flirting with a woman. Its not the infidelity as much as I think it's the deceitfulness and incredibly poor judgment to do this in public. I could be wrong, but I have not seen too many NFL HC's in this predicament, publicly, none the less an 0-4 1st year coach. I think at best it shows incredibly poor judgement and dishonesty, more likely, it represents a rogue employee that thinks that he is above the rules. It definitely needed to be called out by team management with concern that this type of behavior would be tolerable by other employees in management, coaching, or on the field.
Thanks, I hadn't read the whole story. Yeah the not returning with the team and lying about it would be a problem.
 
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Thanks, I hadn't read the whole story. Yeah the not returning with the team and lying about it would be a problem.

Yeah, totally. And I don't want to minimize the infidelity angle. While not exactly unusual in locker-rooms and all throughout business life, I think it's a particularly bad look for a head coach. By no means should anyone listen to me about ethics(nor will they), but I would be very disappointed if this was Franklin instead. I would be equally concerned if this were my boss, it would impact my ability to work for a boss where we are clearly so polarized on appropriate conduct. Now, what these guys do in their own houses is their business, but once all of your fans/bosses, players, co-workers see it, that's tough.
 
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The Robert Kraft massage parlor fiasco seems to be largely forgotten, but admittedly that’s a different type of alleged misbehavior.
The difference is that Kraft made all attempts to "low key" it. It literally took a police investigation and surveillance to snare him (and other powerful men). Urbs was out in public, drunk, and throwing caution into the wind. This was 100% self-inflicted and I can imagine that Shad Khan isn't happy about the lack of judgement.
 
Even before this I mentioned I feel Urban will be done in NFL after two seasons, if that.
 
The difference is that Kraft made all attempts to "low key" it. It literally took a police investigation and surveillance to snare him (and other powerful men). Urbs was out in public, drunk, and throwing caution into the wind. This was 100% self-inflicted and I can imagine that Shad Khan isn't happy about the lack of judgement.
Agreed. Urb’s definition of moral fiber is slightly different.


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I think that I am missing something with this story. Urban Meyer was essentially caught cheating on his wife, at least that is the implication. Why is this such big news? I am not condoning it or saying it's okay, but it happens everyday especially in professional sports. I don't understand how it will affect his ability to coach his players. For one thing, I really doubt any of them care. More importantly, if any of the players, fans, or the owner for that matter, were expecting an angel when they hired Urban Meyer they were either very ignorant or at least, very naive.
Personally, I don't care whether my boss is faithful or not and it certainly doesn't impact my ability to do my job.
The game was Thursday night. He stayed behind in Ohio despite his team’s 0-4 start. In the 24/7 life of a professional sports coach, that he was still not breaking down film 2 nights after his team’s 4th loss, and was multiple states away from his team, is the real crime here.

Or put another way - he’s already lost his team, who appear to be acting more “professional” than their coach. He won’t last the year in Jax. Will be the new USC coach by December.
 
The game was Thursday night. He stayed behind in Ohio despite his team’s 0-4 start. In the 24/7 life of a professional sports coach, that he was still not breaking down film 2 nights after his team’s 4th loss, and was multiple states away from his team, is the real crime here.

Or put another way - he’s already lost his team, who appear to be acting more “professional” than their coach. He won’t last the year in Jax. Will be the new USC coach by December.
Honest question to the group, does an NFL flameout cause him to lose some luster in the eyes of the USC administration or future recruits? People will assuredly point to Saban, but I dont believe Saban dealt with viral embarrassment. This might feel like petrino a bit more and I'm not sure he ever fully recovered. I know I know, winning fixes all indiscretions, but USC might really have a dilemma hiring this guy. LSU almost can't with their history under miles.
 
The game was Thursday night. He stayed behind in Ohio despite his team’s 0-4 start. In the 24/7 life of a professional sports coach, that he was still not breaking down film 2 nights after his team’s 4th loss, and was multiple states away from his team, is the real crime here.

Or put another way - he’s already lost his team, who appear to be acting more “professional” than their coach. He won’t last the year in Jax. Will be the new USC coach by December.
I doubt USC will touch him now. I read an article from the LA paper that said as much. He would have to go to a school that doesn't seem to care about such publicity. I would say OSU, Bama, Ole Miss, Auburn, LSU, an a few others. Of those, only LSU might be looking. FSU could be another.
 
Honest question to the group, does an NFL flameout cause him to lose some luster in the eyes of the USC administration or future recruits? People will assuredly point to Saban, but I dont believe Saban dealt with viral embarrassment. This might feel like petrino a bit more and I'm not sure he ever fully recovered. I know I know, winning fixes all indiscretions, but USC might really have a dilemma hiring this guy. LSU almost can't with their history under miles.
LOL. You realize their current basketball coach made a "strong ass" offer to a recruit on a recorded phone call?
 
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Are you saying that integrity doesn't matter? That certainly seems to be the current of the nation these days. Maybe you'll find out that your hypothetically cheating boss does something underhanded to derail your career. I believe you would care about his integrity then.
Integrity? They didn't hire Urban Meyer because of his integrity.
 
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Are you saying that integrity doesn't matter? That certainly seems to be the current of the nation these days. Maybe you'll find out that your hypothetically cheating boss does something underhanded to derail your career. I believe you would care about his integrity then.
I’m quite certain many posters on here and throughout the country would be quite surprised at how many of their bosses have cheated on their spouse….and I’m quite certain the vast majority didn’t do anything underhanded to derail someone’s career.
 
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I’m quite certain many posters on here and throughout the country would be quite surprised at how many of their bosses have cheated on their spouse….and I’m quite certain the vast majority didn’t do anything underhanded to derail someone’s career.
The tenor of your post suggests that you endorse marital infidelity.

A true hypocritical dichotomy…..on one hand you abhor PSU players entering the Portal for lack of loyalty yet you have the moral ability to somehow defend “wife cheaters”. 🤷‍♂️

Why do I suspect that you religiously attend church and are driving the first vehicle exiting the parking lot?
 
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The tenor of your post suggests that you endorse marital infidelity.

A true hypocritical dichotomy…..on one hand you abhor PSU players entering the Portal for lack of loyalty yet you have the moral ability to somehow defend “wife cheaters”. 🤷‍♂️

Why do I suspect that you religiously attend church and are driving the first vehicle exiting the parking lot?
I’d like to know how many dudes who shrug off themselves or other guys cheating on their wives would be so sanguine if their wife turned the tables and got plowed by another guy.
 
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The tenor of your post suggests that you endorse marital infidelity.

A true hypocritical dichotomy…..on one hand you abhor PSU players entering the Portal for lack of loyalty yet you have the moral ability to somehow defend “wife cheaters”. 🤷‍♂️

Why do I suspect that you religiously attend church and are driving the first vehicle exiting the parking lot?
Reading comprehension is a problem for you obviously. Please point out where I endorse marital infidelity. I simply stated there are many bosses who have cheated on their spouse and that doesn’t mean they’re going to derail someone’s career. And to further your inability to read, I don’t abhor players entering the portal, I just don’t see any reason to celebrate them and hope they win the Heisman.
 
I’d like to know how many dudes who shrug off themselves or other guys cheating on their wives would be so sanguine if their wife turned the tables and got plowed by another guy.
If you actually read my post he was referring to, you’d note I didn’t say the bosses were men cheating on their wives….I deliberately said bosses cheating on their spouses because many people have female bosses who have cheated on their spouse. Personally, I don’t worry about other people cheating on their spouse because focusing on my own marriage is my priority.
 
Are you saying that integrity doesn't matter? That certainly seems to be the current of the nation these days. Maybe you'll find out that your hypothetically cheating boss does something underhanded to derail your career. I believe you would care about his integrity then.
Integrity does NOT, in fact, matter. We learned that from the President, the corporate media, and 49% of the voters of the country in the 90s. I believe the specific defense was that character doesn't matter and is unrelated to job performance and "It's just sex." According to the folks in the White House, Urban is a fine football coach and his personal life does not reflect on his job or his employer. I heard Biden sent Urbs a box of Cohiba's to cheer him up.
 
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Give it a year or two. This will be old news.
Only if his team wins. Remember something, he's now coaching in the NFL-- standing for Not For Long. If his team is one of the worst in the NFL this year (which some thought it could be) and this isn't much better next year, he likely could be gone.

The words of the owner wee very strong the other day. Urban likes to be THE SHOW, THE man in charge. Now, he's being scrutinized like never before and needing to gain back the trust of the team owner and those things are absolutely against what Urban has ever had to do before.

The more I keep thinking of this the more I'm believing Urban is realizing fast that college coaching is where he's in command and at his best-- not the NFL. I credit him for giving the NFL a shot, testing those waters, but I think he's already realizing it's a very tough gig and people are not forgiving when he makes blunders (hire of Chris Doyle being the first one).

Is he too toxic for college football? Absolutely not. It only takes one school to take the lunge with him and there will be at least one school willing to do this.
 
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The tenor of your post suggests that you endorse marital infidelity.

A true hypocritical dichotomy…..on one hand you abhor PSU players entering the Portal for lack of loyalty yet you have the moral ability to somehow defend “wife cheaters”. 🤷‍♂️

Why do I suspect that you religiously attend church and are driving the first vehicle exiting the parking lot?
Ouch! Good one.
 
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