Not a single one of them has any skill, talent, or courage.
Terrible.
You wanted this, you got it.
Terrible.
You wanted this, you got it.
It is pretty clear that Joe Paterno was the only leader this university ever had. Nothing but a bunch of corporate CYA's left.
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Political correctness and hollow, useless babble is all we get from penn state anymore. Sadly I think from the head coach as well.
You are probably correct in your premise. But based on his present location I don’t believe that there’s anything he can do to correct things. Therefore it may behove us to focus our attention on more realistic alternative solutions.
The only the thing you got close to right is that Joe has been dead for several years now.
And just how long have you been laying in wait and salivating to throw in that cheap shot?
Kaneposter, what do you think of Joe Paterno? Do you think Joe was fair to Pitt?
I'm not sure what you're asking.
I think the world needs a lot less Eric Barrons and Sandy Barbours, and more Joe Paternos.
So none of the founders strong and great that we raise the song for were good leaders? I'll give you the modern day, but in the history of the university JoePa was the only leader?
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Looking at your post, it appears more thought and effort was put into that signature image than PSU's red zone offense. That being said, it probably took someone about 5 minutes to develop the image.
I mean I'm not sure how to respond to that. Are you upset I have the image that is on our players jerseys and helmets as my signature? Are you bashing the concept of the image itself or what it represents? Are you upset that the image exists in the first place because there was a good discussion on that several weeks ago if you want to dig it up again. Or are ya just saying that more attention should be paid to coaching as opposed to using the logo in the first place?
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I think I’m in the minority here, but I think Graham Spanier was a good leader.
I think John Coyle and countless other professors were leaders back in the day - before they stopped teaching and started doing whatever it is they do today. Also John Oswald and Bryce Jordan seemed to be good leaders.
You renew my faith that there are indeed major aholes in the world.
Ummm......None of the above. Try reading it again. slowly this time.
blm was sure out "bashing some heads" in D.C. over the weekend, huh? Quick question - how much money has blm donated to black-owned businesses who have been burned down or harmed by the rioting? Any entrepreneurial zones established? Any scholarships given out? Anything? Anything at all - other than the dnc?
Oswald was not a good leader. Jordan was, as was Eric Walker.
Thanks for your input, Ira.
Listen KanePa / Poster, why are you still here? GTFO already!
This guy hates Joe Pa more than most on the Lair. He's so far right wing he got himself banned on the Lair yet his legendary status lives on through numerous references in threads almost daily. Don't buy any of his pro Joe BS.
Here is a copy of his last post on the Lair.
KanePA
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I’m pretty sure Christ himself hates Paterno and Penn State, Cincinnati.
I have to agree. In time of crisis, the BOT got rid of the only two people that could have made a difference. As much as I didn't like some of Spanier's direction of the campus, he never would have let the NCAA steamroll over us.
And of course, the bot wanted the ncaa to steamroll us. Hence Graham was run off.
Your post is completely wrong.
I think Joe Paterno was awesome. A true leader and one we surely are lacking today.
I would venture to say that almost no one on the right has anything but admiration for Joe Paterno.
No idea who the guy on the Lair is.
Other than the crazy increases in tuition, I thought Spanier had a grand vision of what the University could be and worked hard to get it there.
Wasn't Walker the one that would snowmobile across campus then chew out the cops for not catching him?
Spot on.
OK. Good point.
While I do not know much about him, it wouldn't surprise me at all that a former NCAA champion would be an awesome leader, if he is smart enough.
While at Penn State, Cael's team has won the National Championship in 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019.
This was by design, right? This was slight of hand. Hey everybody! Look at PSU, not TSM!
I wasn't a Spanier supporter. However, I believe he acted with courage and integrity once the sh#t hit the fan.
Ned Litchfield had a "grand vision" of what Pitt could be. Guess where it got 'em.
Along with Cael, Russ Rose had done a pretty good job. A number of good leaders, coaches with success in the past like Gene Wettstone, Rich Lorenzo, etc.
How about we look for leaders with the characteristics that Joe Paterno displayed?
That was the point.
We all know he's dead.
You're just being silly. I'm not a Pitt fan.
What in your worldview makes it important to you that "I'm not a PSU fan"?
I truly don't know what to tell you.
I'm a long time PSU fan (really a JoePa fan, more than a PSU fan, especially now).
I've never been a Pitt fan.
I have never posted on any Pitt message board, under any handle.
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