Jay Paterno doesn't have a case against Penn State over his firing, U.S. judges rule

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Jay Paterno doesn't have a case against Penn State over his firing, U.S. judges rule

Jay Paterno, right, and his father, the late Penn State football Coach Joe Paterno. (PennLive)

By Matt Miller | mmiller@pennlive.com The Patriot-News
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on May 12, 2017 at 10:48 AM, updated May 12, 2017 at 11:53 AM

Saying he just doesn't have a case, a federal appeals court has upheld the dismissal of a lawsuit a son of former Penn State football Coach Joe Paterno filed over his firing as an assistant coach for the Nittany Lions.

Jay Paterno and fellow former assistant coach Bill Kenney had no vested legal right to keep their jobs after Bill O'Brien took over the football program in 2012, Judge Joseph A. Greenaway Jr. found in an opinion a panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit issued this week.

Nor did Jay Paterno and Kenney prove that Penn State officials slandered them, Greenaway found.

Those conclusions back the call U.S. Eastern District Judge Lawrence F. Stengel made in dismissing the Paterno/Kenney suit in March 2016.

Jay Paterno and Kenney filed their complaint in 2014, claiming Penn State officials violated their rights by dismissing them from their coaching jobs. They also insisted they were unfairly linked to the Jerry Sandusky scandal, which prompted the firing of Paterno's dad.

Greenaway seconded Stengel's finding that Jay Paterno and Kenney "were terminated as part of a shake-up in coaching staff that routinely followed the hiring of a new head coach."

Their claim that their reputations were unjustly smeared because of the Sandusky scandal falls short as well, the appeals judge concluded.

Jay Paterno and Kenney based that argument on statements in several press releases by Penn State and in the consent degree through which school officials agreed to controversial sanctions imposed by the NCAA. They specifically cited a statement in the consent decree that "some coaches, administrators and football staff members ignored the red flags of Sandusky's behaviors and no one warned the public about him."

Yet, as Greenaway noted, neither the decree nor any of those press releases named Jay Paterno or Kenney. The only coaches named were Joe Paterno and assistant coach Mike McQueary, the judge observed.

So there is no slander case because "there is no reasonable connection between 'some coaches' and" Jay Paterno and Kenney, Greenaway wrote.

In any case, he noted, the NCAA consent decree was issued six months after Jay Paterno and Kenney were axed form their coaching posts.

 

[BobPSU92]

Jay was never in it for the money. This was another approach to uncover the truth.

 

[mn78psu83]

So there is no slander case because "there is no reasonable connection between 'some coaches' and" Jay Paterno and Kenney, Greenaway wrote.

Where is The Count?

 

[marshall23]

and MM gets 12 million. makes perfect sense.

 

[AldenT]

If only Jay had witnessed Jerry in the shower with a young boy and either lied or did absolutely nothing about it for over a decade but worry about his career, he'd be worth 8 figures.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

and MM gets 12 million. makes perfect sense.

SMH.

 

[PSU_Chicago]

and MM gets 12 million. makes perfect sense.

Agree. Disgraceful.

 

[bjf1991]

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Jay Paterno doesn't have a case against Penn State over his firing, U.S. judges rule

Jay Paterno, right, and his father, the late Penn State football Coach Joe Paterno. (PennLive)

By Matt Miller | mmiller@pennlive.com The Patriot-News
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on May 12, 2017 at 10:48 AM, updated May 12, 2017 at 11:53 AM

Saying he just doesn't have a case, a federal appeals court has upheld the dismissal of a lawsuit a son of former Penn State football Coach Joe Paterno filed over his firing as an assistant coach for the Nittany Lions.

Jay Paterno and fellow former assistant coach Bill Kenney had no vested legal right to keep their jobs after Bill O'Brien took over the football program in 2012, Judge Joseph A. Greenaway Jr. found in an opinion a panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit issued this week.

Nor did Jay Paterno and Kenney prove that Penn State officials slandered them, Greenaway found.

Those conclusions back the call U.S. Eastern District Judge Lawrence F. Stengel made in dismissing the Paterno/Kenney suit in March 2016.

Jay Paterno and Kenney filed their complaint in 2014, claiming Penn State officials violated their rights by dismissing them from their coaching jobs. They also insisted they were unfairly linked to the Jerry Sandusky scandal, which prompted the firing of Paterno's dad.

Greenaway seconded Stengel's finding that Jay Paterno and Kenney "were terminated as part of a shake-up in coaching staff that routinely followed the hiring of a new head coach."

Their claim that their reputations were unjustly smeared because of the Sandusky scandal falls short as well, the appeals judge concluded.

Jay Paterno and Kenney based that argument on statements in several press releases by Penn State and in the consent degree through which school officials agreed to controversial sanctions imposed by the NCAA. They specifically cited a statement in the consent decree that "some coaches, administrators and football staff members ignored the red flags of Sandusky's behaviors and no one warned the public about him."

Yet, as Greenaway noted, neither the decree nor any of those press releases named Jay Paterno or Kenney. The only coaches named were Joe Paterno and assistant coach Mike McQueary, the judge observed.

So there is no slander case because "there is no reasonable connection between 'some coaches' and" Jay Paterno and Kenney, Greenaway wrote.

In any case, he noted, the NCAA consent decree was issued six months after Jay Paterno and Kenney were axed form their coaching posts.

They sued the wrong guys (if there was ever going to be an expectation of a meaningful result)

Since then, it's just been - and remains - a matter of time.

I have not followed closely enough to know where things stand vav getting any kind of financial settlement from, or punitive actions against, the NCAA.
I hope there is still "something" there - but IDK - a quick read of this ruling doesn't sound promising, but I've not really analyzed it from that standpoint.

It's unfortunate - and it was NEVER anyone else's "call to make" - but it is what it is - - - - - despite Jake and the Boys' declarations that this suit would "push the ball over the goal line" (even they knew that was pure bullshit)

 

[AWS1022]

He should have changed his name to Jay McQueary for the trial...he would have won.

 

[michnittlion]

Another L for Jay.

 

[Nellie R]

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Jay Paterno doesn't have a case against Penn State over his firing, U.S. judges rule

Jay Paterno, right, and his father, the late Penn State football Coach Joe Paterno. (PennLive)

By Matt Miller | mmiller@pennlive.com The Patriot-News
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on May 12, 2017 at 10:48 AM, updated May 12, 2017 at 11:53 AM

Saying he just doesn't have a case, a federal appeals court has upheld the dismissal of a lawsuit a son of former Penn State football Coach Joe Paterno filed over his firing as an assistant coach for the Nittany Lions.

Jay Paterno and fellow former assistant coach Bill Kenney had no vested legal right to keep their jobs after Bill O'Brien took over the football program in 2012, Judge Joseph A. Greenaway Jr. found in an opinion a panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit issued this week.

Nor did Jay Paterno and Kenney prove that Penn State officials slandered them, Greenaway found.

Those conclusions back the call U.S. Eastern District Judge Lawrence F. Stengel made in dismissing the Paterno/Kenney suit in March 2016.

Jay Paterno and Kenney filed their complaint in 2014, claiming Penn State officials violated their rights by dismissing them from their coaching jobs. They also insisted they were unfairly linked to the Jerry Sandusky scandal, which prompted the firing of Paterno's dad.

Greenaway seconded Stengel's finding that Jay Paterno and Kenney "were terminated as part of a shake-up in coaching staff that routinely followed the hiring of a new head coach."

Their claim that their reputations were unjustly smeared because of the Sandusky scandal falls short as well, the appeals judge concluded.

Jay Paterno and Kenney based that argument on statements in several press releases by Penn State and in the consent degree through which school officials agreed to controversial sanctions imposed by the NCAA. They specifically cited a statement in the consent decree that "some coaches, administrators and football staff members ignored the red flags of Sandusky's behaviors and no one warned the public about him."

Yet, as Greenaway noted, neither the decree nor any of those press releases named Jay Paterno or Kenney. The only coaches named were Joe Paterno and assistant coach Mike McQueary, the judge observed.

So there is no slander case because "there is no reasonable connection between 'some coaches' and" Jay Paterno and Kenney, Greenaway wrote.

In any case, he noted, the NCAA consent decree was issued six months after Jay Paterno and Kenney were axed form their coaching posts.

Why even link such a stupid article? They never filed a suit stating they "had a legal right to keep their jobs". It's just more Penn Jive. If you read the lawsuit it's about the payment delays and the PSU-purchased defamation that effectively shut off job opportunities for innocent people. Same as MMQ's complaint.

Matt Miller nor anyone at Pennlive knows how to read court documents.
Or if they do, they purposely skew what they say for clicks:

Like Charlie Tuna 05/2016 and his "this must mean that Paterno knew", instead of "Those idiots on Ira's committee at PSU! They never vetted these claims and just paid everyone who came running. They will never collect back from insurance companies on such outrageous ones that obviously did not fit Sandusky's predator classification. What were they thinking? What an insult to the Second Mile's actual victim/survivors!"

 

[michnittlion]

So there is no slander case because "there is no reasonable connection between 'some coaches' and" Jay Paterno and Kenney, Greenaway wrote.

Where is The Count?

Jay Paterno is mentioned in the Freeh Report the same number of times as folk like:

Larry Johnson
Tom Bradley
Ron Vanderlinden

That number is ZERO.

Only someone as self-unaware as Jay would think that sentence from the Freeh report referenced him. Jay isn't coaching football right now because he wasn't good at coaching football. Meanwhile, LJ, Bradley and Vanderlinden are coaching football right now because they were good at coaching football.

 

[marshall23]

Jay Paterno is mentioned in the Freeh Report the same number of times as folk like:

Larry Johnson
Tom Bradley
Ron Vanderlinden

That number is ZERO.

Only someone as self-unaware as Jay would think that sentence from the Freeh report referenced him. Jay isn't coaching football right now because he wasn't good at coaching football. Meanwhile, LJ, Bradley and Vanderlinden are coaching football right now because they were good at coaching football.

You are very perspicacious....not! Your obsession with Jay is now getting more than a little creepy.

 

[Nellie R]

Jay Paterno is mentioned in the Freeh Report the same number of times as folk like:

Larry Johnson
Tom Bradley
Ron Vanderlinden

That number is ZERO.

Only someone as self-unaware as Jay would think that sentence from the Freeh report referenced him. Jay isn't coaching football right now because he wasn't good at coaching football. Meanwhile, LJ, Bradley and Vanderlinden are coaching football right now because they were good at coaching football.

Goo pee in a Michigan school's sandbox. Your routine is getting old over here. The Freeh Report was a blanket condemnation of AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY for no reason and the farce has cost reputations, careers, and residents BILLIONS of dollars because of the fallout caused by an evil man named Freeh waving his magic hatchet job formula he's known to be paid for by those with other motivations seeking to save their own skins.

 

[michnittlion]

You are very perspicacious....not! Your obsession with Jay is now getting more than a little creepy.

IMO, Jay Paterno is the single largest impediment out there as regards Penn State University having a very bright future.

I'm not obsessed, I just want him to "exit stage right" and leave the scene.

 

[Nellie R]

IMO, Jay Paterno is the single largest impediment out there as regards Penn State University having a very bright future.

I'm not obsessed, I just want him to "exit stage right" and leave the scene.

This will never happen, so you will not get what you wish for. There is no reason to be going on a message board writing utter BS about him to achieve your "goal".

 

[mn78psu83]

Jay Paterno is mentioned in the Freeh Report the same number of times as folk like:

Larry Johnson
Tom Bradley
Ron Vanderlinden

That number is ZERO.

Only someone as self-unaware as Jay would think that sentence from the Freeh report referenced him. Jay isn't coaching football right now because he wasn't good at coaching football. Meanwhile, LJ, Bradley and Vanderlinden are coaching football right now because they were good at coaching football.

The Count, don't lose your sense of humor over this. You were funny when the whole existential/universal quantification thing went down.

 

[marshall23]

IMO, Jay Paterno is the single largest impediment out there as regards Penn State University having a very bright future.

I'm not obsessed, I just want him to "exit stage right" and leave the scene.

No you are clearly obsessed with him. Calling him an impediment is hilarious. Does an alarm go off on your phone when his name is written into a thread?

 

[bdgan]

Not posting the PL link....the comments are the usual crap.
Jay Paterno doesn't have a case against Penn State over his firing, U.S. judges rule

Jay Paterno, right, and his father, the late Penn State football Coach Joe Paterno. (PennLive)

By Matt Miller | mmiller@pennlive.com The Patriot-News
Follow on Twitter
on May 12, 2017 at 10:48 AM, updated May 12, 2017 at 11:53 AM

Saying he just doesn't have a case, a federal appeals court has upheld the dismissal of a lawsuit a son of former Penn State football Coach Joe Paterno filed over his firing as an assistant coach for the Nittany Lions.

Jay Paterno and fellow former assistant coach Bill Kenney had no vested legal right to keep their jobs after Bill O'Brien took over the football program in 2012, Judge Joseph A. Greenaway Jr. found in an opinion a panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit issued this week.

Nor did Jay Paterno and Kenney prove that Penn State officials slandered them, Greenaway found.

Those conclusions back the call U.S. Eastern District Judge Lawrence F. Stengel made in dismissing the Paterno/Kenney suit in March 2016.

Jay Paterno and Kenney filed their complaint in 2014, claiming Penn State officials violated their rights by dismissing them from their coaching jobs. They also insisted they were unfairly linked to the Jerry Sandusky scandal, which prompted the firing of Paterno's dad.

Greenaway seconded Stengel's finding that Jay Paterno and Kenney "were terminated as part of a shake-up in coaching staff that routinely followed the hiring of a new head coach."

Their claim that their reputations were unjustly smeared because of the Sandusky scandal falls short as well, the appeals judge concluded.

Jay Paterno and Kenney based that argument on statements in several press releases by Penn State and in the consent degree through which school officials agreed to controversial sanctions imposed by the NCAA. They specifically cited a statement in the consent decree that "some coaches, administrators and football staff members ignored the red flags of Sandusky's behaviors and no one warned the public about him."

Yet, as Greenaway noted, neither the decree nor any of those press releases named Jay Paterno or Kenney. The only coaches named were Joe Paterno and assistant coach Mike McQueary, the judge observed.

So there is no slander case because "there is no reasonable connection between 'some coaches' and" Jay Paterno and Kenney, Greenaway wrote.

In any case, he noted, the NCAA consent decree was issued six months after Jay Paterno and Kenney were axed form their coaching posts.

Paterno & Kenney lost their jobs because O'Brien didn't want them. McQueary lost his job because he gave a vague report to C&S. Paterno & Kenney deserve nothing. MM deserved $15 million. Makes perfect sense.

 

[BobPSU92]

Paterno & Kenney lost their jobs because O'Brien didn't want them. McQueary lost his job because he gave a vague report to C&S. Paterno & Kenney deserve nothing. MM deserved $15 million. Makes perfect sense.

Hmm...

 

[fairgambit]

IMO, Jay Paterno is the single largest impediment out there as regards Penn State University having a very bright future.

I'm not obsessed, I just want him to "exit stage right" and leave the scene.

I often read your posts with interest and have rarely (if ever) been critical of them even though I seldom agree. I will make an exception here. You did begin the above post with "IMO" and I will do the same. IMO your opinion, as reflected in your 1st sentence, is absurd in the extreme. I will leave it at that. We are at such polar opposites here that any debate would be of no value.

 

[GregPSU]

and MM gets 12 million. makes perfect sense.

Yea, I was thinking the same. Someone has to explain how he was a different than these other coaches.

 

[AWS1022]

Jay Paterno is mentioned in the Freeh Report the same number of times as folk like:

Larry Johnson
Tom Bradley
Ron Vanderlinden

That number is ZERO.

Only someone as self-unaware as Jay would think that sentence from the Freeh report referenced him. Jay isn't coaching football right now because he wasn't good at coaching football. Meanwhile, LJ, Bradley and Vanderlinden are coaching football right now because they were good at coaching football.

And MM isn't coaching now because??? And he has millions because???

 

[The Song Remains the Same]

I often read your posts with interest and have rarely (if ever) been critical of them even though I seldom agree. I will make an exception here. You did begin the above post with "IMO" and I will do the same. IMO your opinion, as reflected in your 1st sentence, is absurd in the extreme. I will leave it at that. We are at such polar opposites here that any debate would be of no value.

You might have said that you'd engage him in a battle of wits, but you'd hesitate to take advantage of an unarmed man. But we all know that.

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

I often read your posts with interest and have rarely (if ever) been critical of them even though I seldom agree. I will make an exception here. You did begin the above post with "IMO" and I will do the same. IMO your opinion, as reflected in your 1st sentence, is absurd in the extreme. I will leave it at that. We are at such polar opposites here that any debate would be of no value.

The fool is correct... he is beyond obsessed... way beyond. He is a volunteer Louie Freeh Condom for life.

 

[BobPSU92]

You might have said that you'd engage him in a battle of wits, but you'd hesitate to take advantage of an unarmed man. But we all know that.

fair in a rout.

 

[psu7113]

IMO, Jay Paterno is the single largest impediment out there as regards Penn State University having a very bright future.

I'm not obsessed, I just want him to "exit stage right" and leave the scene.

Please take your own advice....

 

[lockhavenlion3]

IMO, Jay Paterno is the single largest impediment out there as regards Penn State University having a very bright future.

I'm not obsessed, I just want him to "exit stage right" and leave the scene.

why don't you do the same?

 

[PennSt8er]

The Paterno estate should have named Ken Frazier, Rodney, and Karen Peetz as defendants in the defamation claim. They would have been nailed.

 

[bjf1991]

The Paterno estate should have named Ken Frazier, Rodney, and Karen Peetz as defendants in the defamation claim. They would have been nailed.

Gee....... where did I hear that before - repeatedly - 5 years ago

 

[mn78psu83]

Gee....... where did I hear that before - repeatedly - 5 years ago

bjf1984?

 

[Corabi94]

IMO, Jay Paterno is the single largest impediment out there as regards Penn State University having a very bright future.

I'm not obsessed, I just want him to "exit stage right" and leave the scene.

The Paterno name is so tarnished that anyone of them being associated with PSU is bad.

 

[marshall23]

The Paterno name is so tarnished that anyone of them being associated with PSU is bad.

and who is responsible for that?

 

[Corabi94]

and who is responsible for that?

Yeah, the BoT but you can add Scotty and Joe himself to that list.