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Jeff Garlin fired from "The Goldbergs"

he also stars and is an executive producer of "Curb Your Enthusiasm" with Larry David. He plays LD's manager who is always cheating on his over-the-top Jewish wife. In fact, in last week's episode, his wife finds his hidden mobile phone and see's he is cheating with an admin that works for an executive at Hulu.

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I always go back and forth on this. I have had some pretty tough bosses, my one boss, Judith Regan, was at one point named one of the 50 most hated NYers. A lot was expected of you and if you ever messed up even a little, you would hear it, and yes, it would be abusive, but you would also get responsibility that no one else would give you if you proved your worth. She wasn't the first or last tough boss I had, another one was fired after throwing a book at her assistant. But I always look back as those experiences as being valuable.

That being said, this day and age, that way of acting around the office is unacceptable and he should know better. It is true, that some people are now overly sensitive about EVERYTHING, but everyone deserves to be treated with dignity.

Regarding the Goldbergs, something I didn't know until recently is that it was also a TV show that ran from 1929 till 1956.
 
I always go back and forth on this. I have had some pretty tough bosses, my one boss, Judith Regan, was at one point named one of the 50 most hated NYers. A lot was expected of you and if you ever messed up even a little, you would hear it, and yes, it would be abusive, but you would also get responsibility that no one else would give you if you proved your worth. She wasn't the first or last tough boss I had, another one was fired after throwing a book at her assistant. But I always look back as those experiences as being valuable.

That being said, this day and age, that way of acting around the office is unacceptable and he should know better. It is true, that some people are now overly sensitive about EVERYTHING, but everyone deserves to be treated with dignity.

Regarding the Goldbergs, something I didn't know until recently is that it was also a TV show that ran from 1929 till 1956.
Times have changed in regards to normal abuse. By that, I mean what was acceptable and what was not. I was having dinner on 5th ave with colleagues and they got me telling stores from the 1980s, mad men style, and we had a great laugh at how different it was then. Fortunately, I never was a partier so I never participated. Actually, I did in my first year or two and stopped because I realized that I wasn't comfortable with it. This has allowed me to enjoy a long career as many of my peers did not.

Back to this guy, if it was sexual harassment, he's in deep trouble because it is not only sexual but recent (in today's context or norms). But if he was verbally abusive, that is a fireable offense but still isn't subject to civil suits in most states unless someone's rights were violated.
 
Times have changed in regards to normal abuse. By that, I mean what was acceptable and what was not. I was having dinner on 5th ave with colleagues and they got me telling stores from the 1980s, mad men style, and we had a great laugh at how different it was then. Fortunately, I never was a partier so I never participated. Actually, I did in my first year or two and stopped because I realized that I wasn't comfortable with it. This has allowed me to enjoy a long career as many of my peers did not.

Back to this guy, if it was sexual harassment, he's in deep trouble because it is not only sexual but recent (in today's context or norms). But if he was verbally abusive, that is a fireable offense but still isn't subject to civil suits in most states unless someone's rights were violated.
I worked in Advertising in NYC from 1988-2002 during a Mad Men type era. Amazing time and place for sure...that would be looked at very differently with today's lenses. Fortunately my dad was the director of HR /Labor Relations for a Fortune 500 company. He told stupid workplace stories at our dinner table. Being forewarned I was ahead of the curve and kept pretty clean...but oh the stories I could tell.

I was deposed at one point in a lawsuit brought by a female colleague against our male boss and I know there was another suit later that I was not involved with. Slippery slope for sure- what's abusive, or funny, or "sexual" in nature now has a lot of $$$$$ signs...work at work and have your friends elsewhere. It's amazing how few keep up with you once you've left/lost power orno longer have a budget to spend.
 
I worked in Advertising in NYC from 1988-2002 during a Mad Men type era. Amazing time and place for sure...that would be looked at very differently with today's lenses. Fortunately my dad was the director of HR /Labor Relations for a Fortune 500 company. He told stupid workplace stories at our dinner table. Being forewarned I was ahead of the curve and kept pretty clean...but oh the stories I could tell.

I was deposed at one point in a lawsuit brought by a female colleague against our male boss and I know there was another suit later that I was not involved with. Slippery slope for sure- what's abusive, or funny, or "sexual" in nature now has a lot of $$$$$ signs...work at work and have your friends elsewhere. It's amazing how few keep up with you once you've left/lost power orno longer have a budget to spend.
I am familiar with a law firm in San Antonio. they gave the checks that came in to the managing partner's executive admin. One day he got a call from a collector that bills weren't being paid. He asked his admin to follow up and she was leaving for lunch and would address it when she got back. She never came back. the next morning they got a note from her saying she was depositing the money in her personal account. But, she went on to show them photos of her in bed with two of the partners. She made a simple offer: just let me keep the money and I won't file a lawsuit against the firm.
 
Times sure are different. I keep my mouth shut now. However, once in the early 90's I was talking with 2 female co-workers ( we had worked together for a number of years, knew both their husbands, one is a parole officer so he had quite the language) anyway, the co-worker married to the parole officer made this comment, "I woke up with a sore throat this morning". I immediately asked, "Did your husband wake up with a smile on his face?"

She didn't get it immediately but the other co-worked was laughing like crazy. The good ole days. LOL
 
Times sure are different. I keep my mouth shut now. However, once in the early 90's I was talking with 2 female co-workers ( we had worked together for a number of years, knew both their husbands, one is a parole officer so he had quite the language) anyway, the co-worker married to the parole officer made this comment, "I woke up with a sore throat this morning". I immediately asked, "Did your husband wake up with a smile on his face?"

She didn't get it immediately but the other co-worked was laughing like crazy. The good ole days. LOL
I recall overhearing one of the secretaries telling a group of men that she could tell what a man ate the day before by his "taste". Yikes. (and I am not using the exact term or the taste of what).
 
I recall overhearing one of the secretaries telling a group of men that she could tell what a man ate the day before by his "taste". Yikes. (and I am not using the exact term or the taste of what).
I dated a girl briefly who would try to guess what I ate that day.
 
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I dated a girl briefly who would try to guess what I ate that day.
Are you from Akron Ohio? Just kidding.

When I went to sign my papers for my job, the first week out of college, I went to reception to check in. Her name was Peggy. While I was signing in, the phone rang and she answered it. After a moment she yelled into the phone "listen, I screw who I want, where I want and when I want and there is nothing you can do about it. (she didn't say screw but the other word)" She slammed down the phone and then said "Mr. newboss will see you now. I was never more excited for a new job!

As it turns out, she was having an affair with a Dr. and the caller was the Dr's wife.
 
I always go back and forth on this. I have had some pretty tough bosses, my one boss, Judith Regan, was at one point named one of the 50 most hated NYers. A lot was expected of you and if you ever messed up even a little, you would hear it, and yes, it would be abusive, but you would also get responsibility that no one else would give you if you proved your worth. She wasn't the first or last tough boss I had, another one was fired after throwing a book at her assistant. But I always look back as those experiences as being valuable.

That being said, this day and age, that way of acting around the office is unacceptable and he should know better. It is true, that some people are now overly sensitive about EVERYTHING, but everyone deserves to be treated with dignity.

Regarding the Goldbergs, something I didn't know until recently is that it was also a TV show that ran from 1929 till 1956.
Yes you can occasionally see the original on JTV (I think those are the call letters). Never liked the original, I'm old enough to remember and found the current version annoying. Much too stereotypical of a Jewish family.
 
We had the Michelob account and a bar in our agency. For our Holiday Party one year we started with mimosas at 9am playing mini golf around the agency. Then onto Michelob and Seagrams liquors since we had that biz too. Eventually food showed up. Then things got weird... : )
 
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Really, they felt threatened by this guy? How stupid. Now the Goldberg without pops and the father. Well that show is over .
 
Times sure are different. I keep my mouth shut now. However, once in the early 90's I was talking with 2 female co-workers ( we had worked together for a number of years, knew both their husbands, one is a parole officer so he had quite the language) anyway, the co-worker married to the parole officer made this comment, "I woke up with a sore throat this morning". I immediately asked, "Did your husband wake up with a smile on his face?"

She didn't get it immediately but the other co-worked was laughing like crazy. The good ole days. LOL
Jeepers, aren’t you the Fred Travalena of that office
 
I always go back and forth on this. I have had some pretty tough bosses, my one boss, Judith Regan, was at one point named one of the 50 most hated NYers. A lot was expected of you and if you ever messed up even a little, you would hear it, and yes, it would be abusive, but you would also get responsibility that no one else would give you if you proved your worth. She wasn't the first or last tough boss I had, another one was fired after throwing a book at her assistant. But I always look back as those experiences as being valuable.

That being said, this day and age, that way of acting around the office is unacceptable and he should know better. It is true, that some people are now overly sensitive about EVERYTHING, but everyone deserves to be treated with dignity.

Regarding the Goldbergs, something I didn't know until recently is that it was also a TV show that ran from 1929 till 1956.
Yes, but the tv audience was quite small in 1929....
 
In fact, in last week's episode, his wife finds his hidden mobile phone and see's he is cheating with an admin that works for an executive at Hulu.
Only on TV is that ever happening in Jeff's case. And last season, it was the realtor.
 
It is true, that some people are now overly sensitive about EVERYTHING, but everyone deserves to be treated with dignity
I mostly agree but I remember going through harassment training. We were told that harassment is whatever the victim of the harrassment finds objectionable. In other words you might not know you've harassed someone until it's too late.

Everyone should be treated with respect but IMO people also have to loosen up. I think the offended person has an obligation to quietly tell the "harasser" what bothers them rather than stay quiet then pile on later.

JMO
 
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he also stars and is an executive producer of "Curb Your Enthusiasm" with Larry David. He plays LD's manager who is always cheating on his over-the-top Jewish wife. In fact, in last week's episode, his wife finds his hidden mobile phone and see's he is cheating with an admin that works for an executive at Hulu.

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That's a very funny show but I'm sure a lot of people would be offended watching it. Not just by Garlin & David. J.B. Smoove would be incredibly offensive to many.
 
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I am familiar with a law firm in San Antonio. they gave the checks that came in to the managing partner's executive admin. One day he got a call from a collector that bills weren't being paid. He asked his admin to follow up and she was leaving for lunch and would address it when she got back. She never came back. the next morning they got a note from her saying she was depositing the money in her personal account. But, she went on to show them photos of her in bed with two of the partners. She made a simple offer: just let me keep the money and I won't file a lawsuit against the firm.
Life can sometimes be stranger than fiction....I can tell some stories too, and some are not from Fifth Ave, Fortune 50 companies, or even over significant amounts of money. It's amazing and really sad how humans can behave to each other over things that are relatively unimportant, human nature gone bad....aren't the opposite attitudes and actions more appropriate for the spirit of the season we're in-just trying to save someone from being a stupid a**, and maybe a later regretful one.
 
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I mostly agree but I remember going through harassment training. We were told that harassment is whatever the victim of the harrassment finds objectionable. In other words you might not know you've harassed someone until it's too late.

Everyone should be treated with respect but IMO people also have to loosen up. I think the offended person has an obligation to quietly tell the "harasser" what bothers them rather than stay quiet then pile on later.

JMO
It's the same thing with "microaggressions". My issue with both is that they are not objective and tend to be feelings and perceptions based. Those can be wrong. I'll give an example: At least twice in the past couple of years I've been in a grocery when I've had a person come at me at a fast pace--yelling. Needless to say, I had an emotional reaction to that. Until I realized that the person was wearing ear buds and had a small mic. They were not talking to me at all but to someone on the phone. My emotions were real. But my perception of the situation was wrong.
 
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