Judge: JS may move forward with appeal

[ChiTownLion]

Just passing along the news, fwiw...

Judge: Sandusky may move forward with appeal
Wednesday, April 22 2015, 03:42 PM EDT
By: Marc Stempka

BELLEFONTE, Pa. -- Convicted child sex abuser Jerry Sandusky may move forward with a new appeal, according to an order issued by the judge presiding over his case.

Lawyers met in a judge's chambers in Centre County Wednesday related to a new appeal in Sandusky's case.

Judge John Cleland held the closed-door hearing at the Centre County Courthouse in Bellefonte. The hearing is related to Sandusky's Post Conviction Relief Act hearing, which is another form of appeal, and to address schedules for future proceedings.

Following the hearing, Cleland issued an order permitting Sandusky's defense team to move forward and file on or before May 6 an amended PCRA petition. Cleland ordered the amended petition and any exhibits in support of the amended petition will be unsealed, while the original PCRA petition will remained sealed.

Sandusky's attorney filed a PCRA appeal early April. Within 30 days of filing the amended petition, the Commonwealth will be able to file their response, Cleland ordered.

Cleland also wrote Sandusky's lawyers consult with the Pennsylvania Attorney General's Office if there's any information they plan to include in the amended petition that could be subject to grand jury secrecy rules.

The Pennsylvania Supreme Court last year declined to review Sandusky's 45-count conviction in 2012 for child sexual abuse. Sandusky is serving a sentence of 30 to 60 years and was not present at Wednesday's hearing. Cleland has over seen Sandusky's proceedings in Centre County.

http://local21news.com/news/feature...-sandusky-may-move-forward-appeal-17151.shtml

 

[sluggo72]

I believe one thing about JS. He didn't get even close to a fair trial

 

[NapaNit]

I believe one thing about JS. He didn't get even close to a fair trial

Have to agree. Wonder who his attroney is.

 

[TPSU_Lion]

I believe one thing about JS. He didn't get even close to a fair trial

The "Silent 3" sure as hell aren't getting one either.

 

[nits74]

The "Silent 3" sure as hell aren't getting one either.

And from what we read, no trial is in sight for 2015. Just unreal. The commonwealth has no case.

 

[TPSU_Lion]

And from what we read, no trial is in sight for 2015. Just unreal. The commonwealth has no case.

I bet my man in my avatar got a better trial than the aforementioned. And his probably wasn't fair either. This state is twisted.

 

[RentechCEO]

I bet my man in my avatar got a better trial than the aforementioned. And his probably wasn't fair either. This state is twisted.

Do you think he is guilty?

 

[LundyPSU]

Have to agree. Wonder who his attroney is.

Al Lindsay

 

[psu00]

Do you think he is guilty?

Yes. I think he's guilty as hell. That said, if you've followed the case as closely as people here you'd see a lot of the questionable decisions and borderline police behavior with some victims (not to mention the admitted police perjury on the stand during the trial that was not prosecuted). Bottom line for me is that despite some of the questionable decisions/ behavior of the prosecution side - there are too many victims who came forward during the trial to confirm his guilt.

People are not happy with the behavior of the prosecution system in PA in general and concerned about cleaning it up. Since your a FSU fan I assume your not as familiar with the complete turmoil in the PA AG office (and judges- including a PA Supreme Court judge that was removed) over the past few years.

By the way- what's with the sudden interest and invasion of Florida State fans to this board today? Have you all decided on your board to come here and cause trouble today?

 

[ChiTownLion]

The PA OAG: "A Tradition of Criminals Prosecuting Criminals Since 1681."

 

[TPSU_Lion]

Do you think he is guilty?

Who? The avatar?

 

[Southeastern PA Buck]

Just passing along the news, fwiw...

Judge: Sandusky may move forward with appeal
Wednesday, April 22 2015, 03:42 PM EDT
By: Marc Stempka

BELLEFONTE, Pa. -- Convicted child sex abuser Jerry Sandusky may move forward with a new appeal, according to an order issued by the judge presiding over his case.

Lawyers met in a judge's chambers in Centre County Wednesday related to a new appeal in Sandusky's case.

Judge John Cleland held the closed-door hearing at the Centre County Courthouse in Bellefonte. The hearing is related to Sandusky's Post Conviction Relief Act hearing, which is another form of appeal, and to address schedules for future proceedings.

Following the hearing, Cleland issued an order permitting Sandusky's defense team to move forward and file on or before May 6 an amended PCRA petition. Cleland ordered the amended petition and any exhibits in support of the amended petition will be unsealed, while the original PCRA petition will remained sealed.

Sandusky's attorney filed a PCRA appeal early April. Within 30 days of filing the amended petition, the Commonwealth will be able to file their response, Cleland ordered.

Cleland also wrote Sandusky's lawyers consult with the Pennsylvania Attorney General's Office if there's any information they plan to include in the amended petition that could be subject to grand jury secrecy rules.

The Pennsylvania Supreme Court last year declined to review Sandusky's 45-count conviction in 2012 for child sexual abuse. Sandusky is serving a sentence of 30 to 60 years and was not present at Wednesday's hearing. Cleland has over seen Sandusky's proceedings in Centre County.

http://local21news.com/news/feature...-sandusky-may-move-forward-appeal-17151.shtml

Sweet!. Jerry was robbed of a fair defense and he deserves another trial where FACTS and not emotion will decide his fate.

 

[RentechCEO]

Yes. I think he's guilty as hell. That said, if you've followed the case as closely as people here you'd see a lot of the questionable decisions and borderline police behavior with some victims (not to mention the admitted police perjury on the stand during the trial that was not prosecuted). Bottom line for me is that despite some of the questionable decisions/ behavior of the prosecution side - there are too many victims who came forward during the trial to confirm his guilt.

People are not happy with the behavior of the prosecution system in PA in general and concerned about cleaning it up. Since your a FSU fan I assume your not as familiar with the complete turmoil in the PA AG office (and judges- including a PA Supreme Court judge that was removed) over the past few years.

By the way- what's with the sudden interest and invasion of Florida State fans to this board today? Have you all decided on your board to come here and cause trouble today?

No, just curious what you all thought. Not trying to cause any trouble. Sorry if I did.

 

[LaJolla Lion]

Do you think he is guilty?

Yes he is guilty as sin and will die where he belongs. A very limited few here are upset he didn't get a fair trial, but I really don't care. I'm over the whole thing and the world is far from perfect but I have no sympathy for that sick SOB.

 

[TPSU_Lion]

Do you think he is guilty?

I'm not sure. But what I do is that sandusky was charged, tried, convicted and sentenced all within 8 months (where else does that happen?) and the other 3 have been gagged for 3.5 years now with no trial in sight. Some would argue that "covering it up" is more heinous than molestation itself, yet the state isn't in a hurry to put the "conspirators" behind bars.

There are very few proclaiming his innocence outright, but I think most of us would agree that PAs justice system is plagued with corruption.

 

[psuro]

There just seemed to be a lot of shortcuts taken during the trial process.

 

[lionroar88]

Yes. I think he's guilty as hell. That said, if you've followed the case as closely as people here you'd see a lot of the questionable decisions and borderline police behavior with some victims (not to mention the admitted police perjury on the stand during the trial that was not prosecuted). Bottom line for me is that despite some of the questionable decisions/ behavior of the prosecution side - there are too many victims who came forward during the trial to confirm his guilt.

People are not happy with the behavior of the prosecution system in PA in general and concerned about cleaning it up. Since your a FSU fan I assume your not as familiar with the complete turmoil in the PA AG office (and judges- including a PA Supreme Court judge that was removed) over the past few years.

By the way- what's with the sudden interest and invasion of Florida State fans to this board today? Have you all decided on your board to come here and cause trouble today?

I'm not certain of his guilt, but just because the prosecution was able to find a few people to claim he abused them is no where close to any level of proof. These 'victims' were never properly vetted, by anyone, and a lot of their stories are questionable. I find it troubling that the defense did not bring a single person forward to counter these claims - and there are far more of them than there are 'victims'.

I also find it troubling that people in this country are more concerned with an outcome than they are someone receiving a fair, properly conducted, trial. Receiving a fair, properly conducted, trial is one of the foundations of our society. If we allow the law to conduct trials as they see fit, and we the people do not hold them accountable, then we may as well just live in a police-state, and I for one have no desire to live under those conditions.

 

[LundyPSU]

so much BS in these cases and the prosecution. but, there was no way that jury was going to return not guilty verdicts across the board. whether JS deserves a new trial, let's see what is in the appeal. He certainly didn't make a compelling case previously in his appeals so far.

 

[bkmtnittany1]

Funny how that little blurb in the constitution about a fair, speedy, impartial trial for all its citizens gets overlooked regarding C/S/S. But why would a state as corrupt as this one concern themselves with a measly little document that framed an entire country.

 

[CDW3333]

Funny how that little blurb in the constitution about a fair, speedy, impartial trial for all its citizens gets overlooked regarding C/S/S. But why would a state as corrupt as this one concern themselves with a measly little document that framed an entire country.

The three stooges can invoke the speedy trial act anytime they want.

 

[9fold]

Yes he is guilty as sin and will die where he belongs. A very limited few here are upset he didn't get a fair trial, but I really don't care. I'm over the whole thing and the world is far from perfect but I have no sympathy for that sick SOB.

Who said it is a "limited few"? You appear to be in the minority taking the view that sandusky did not deserve a fair trial per The Constitution of The United States.

You clearly are not over this because every time the sandusky trial comes up, you spew a lot of hate. Of course, as a result of your hate, you intentionally confuse important issues in this matter.

 

[LaJolla Lion]

Who said it is a "limited few"? You appear to be in the minority taking the view that sandusky did not deserve a fair trial per The Constitution of The United States.

You clearly are not over this because every time the sandusky trial comes up, you spew a lot of hate. Of course, as a result of your hate, you intentionally confuse important issues in this matter.

My hate, hate of whom...the sick pedophile rotting in jail. Ok...you got me. Keep thinking it was the unfair trial that sent the maniac away. Hell, start a kickstarter for him for all I care. I don't spew anything other than Jerry is a POS and will die in jail. Sorry that bothers you, but keep up with the constitution card as playing the PC gimmes is always the tough way out.

 

[Lisa1994]

Do you think he is guilty?

I think he's guilty. I think it was near impossible to see it at the time, but in retrospect, it all adds up to almost a textbook picture, right down to the school in his backyard. I would have liked it if politics didn't get in the way of both the early investigation, where he seemed a bit protected and then his trial that seemed suspect on a number of different levels(enough in my non-lawyer opinion to justify a new trial.)

 

[simons96]

I'm not certain of his guilt, but just because the prosecution was able to find a few people to claim he abused them is no where close to any level of proof. These 'victims' were never properly vetted, by anyone, and a lot of their stories are questionable. I find it troubling that the defense did not bring a single person forward to counter these claims - and there are far more of them than there are 'victims'.

I also find it troubling that people in this country are more concerned with an outcome than they are someone receiving a fair, properly conducted, trial. Receiving a fair, properly conducted, trial is one of the foundations of our society. If we allow the law to conduct trials as they see fit, and we the people do not hold them accountable, then we may as well just live in a police-state, and I for one have no desire to live under those conditions.

a lot of troubling elements to the trial itself, but I find it odd that nuance is not allowed.

I think Sandusky is guilty of something, I just don't know what because of the prosecution.

and people act like certain corruptions were NOT glaringly exposed at trial, like cops lying on the stand, or being caught on tape telling the lawyer for one of the victims to alter his statements so they could move forward with certain charges.

or that the OAG/judge pulled the classic "document dump/deny continuance" maneuver.

I also find Dotty's interviews very sad but compelling. To ignore the tapestry of a greater reality while being laser focused on simple minded outrage does service to no one, and no ideal.

 

[mhentz]

Do you think he is guilty?

I always answer this question the same way. I think JS is guilty.....of something.......I'm just not sure exactly what he is guilty of and what he is not guilty of. I blame the state's prosecutorial misconduct for that. I call it the OJ effect. Ever since the OJ Simpson murder case it's become clear to the kinds of people like we have running the PA-OAG that "missing" on a guy like Sandusky is a career killer....and a healthy and successful career is a lot more important to these people than dispensing justice. Once the OAG held their big, dumb, televised dog-and-pony show presser announcing the charges against not just Sandusky, but also Curley and Schultz as well, the die was cast. They had no business holding that press conference. That ain't part of justice and the only thing it serves is to proclaim guilt for the accused throughout the land no matter what evidence might be presented at trial. Add to that falsifying then leaking the Grand Jury presentment to the press. At that point a fair trial for Sandusky was impossible. They had imprinted on the minds of the public as fact that JS was one of the most heinous monsters to have ever existed and at that point "missing" on him became career suicide and they had to win no matter the consequences, justice be damned. In the end presenting the facts and nothing but the facts and risking that the jury might find enough reasonable doubt to cause them to "miss" on Sandusky and destroy their careers was simply not acceptable to the OAG and its prosecution team. The prosecution had no choice but to pervert the legal process as much as necessary to ensure an overwhelming number of convictions, including convictions on the most monstrous charges that at the same time are the least likely to be true and required the most obvious and egregious forms of misconduct required to gain guilty verdicts. Then there was the extremely obvious ulterior motive of making it look like Sandusky was all Penn State's fault, coupled with the complete absolution of more responsible and blameworthy state and state related agencies who had shots at Sandusky over the years and always missed like the PA-DPW, the Centre County CYS, and The Second Mile, JS's charity that sourced all his victims to him; but that's a different conversation for a different kitchen. In the end, these schmucks just had to blame Joe Paterno even though he had very, very little to do with the whole thing and performed exactly as he should have with what little involvement he did have in the thing, and that cost them all their careers anyway. What a waste. What is sacrificed in the end is the integrity of our legal system, and when it is all inevitably brought to light, the public's faith in the fairness and legitimacy of our legal system along with it. That ain't good.

 

[Columbus_Lion]

I agree about not having a "fair" trial, however I do think there are enough facts for him to be guilty. With the trial, McQ's behavior, I always wondered if there was evidence illegally seized to validate his crimes? And this evidence was used to have McQ twist his story, as the one third party witness to convict. I know its a stretch, but this whole story is nuts in so many ways.