Just what we Needed
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I will wager a tenner that it gets built faster and more securely than the one on the US side. The Mexicans will be smart and bring in the Newark Portugese concrete guys - they are the best.
My first house cost $23,500 back in the 70's. The last used truck I bought in 2018 cost $ 23,000.56. Don’t remember $35k domiciles.
The Rick (me) calls uncle.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/713-Middle-St-Danville-PA-17821/233205253_zpid/
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Damn, I was just going to post that I googled average house cost in 1973 and it was $32,500 (nationwide)....but now I don’t have to, so I won’t rub it in or anything.
Not sure what you mean.
FWIW, I lived actually in Riverside, and we lived across from a plant (or near it). Merck?
early to late 1969/early 1970.
No disrespect, but what was unnecessary about it? I think it’s a very valid question that anyone who believes in God really should be asking.
Why do God and religion get a special pass against anything being questioned when horrible things happen to innocent people? If God exists, He/She sure can dish things out... I think He/She can handle some questioning in return.
Who is blessed by this situation? This is not a "blessing for mankind." That is completely out of touch with reality.
I could quote bilbe passages about how the peace of God passes all understanding, about man's free will, etc. but that's not really the point. You are free to choose your own faith or no faith at all. Nobody asked to believe or to give God a "free pass". I just think it's nasty for you to insult people who feel differently than you do.
I keep reading 'if it goes on another 6-8 weeks'... I doubt this country survives in any recognizable form if it continues like this another 2 weeks. Hope I'm wrong (I'm sure plenty here will tell me so lol).
Everything is shut down, people are losing their shirts, people are going to lose their jobs... and who in hell is paying for the $1,000 some congress folks want to give everyone to help cover expenses?
We'll all do the best we can, but I highly doubt this country doesn't either implode or explode if it goes beyond april 1st. At a certain point some very difficult decisions will need to be made on how to deal. Good luck to us all.
Everything is shut down, people are losing their shirts, people are going to lose their jobs... and who in hell is paying for the $1,000 some congress folks want to give everyone to help cover expenses?
We'll all do the best we can, but I highly doubt this country doesn't either implode or explode if it goes beyond april 1st. At a certain point some very difficult decisions will need to be made on how to deal. Good luck to us all.
I don't begrudge anyone their personal beliefs, and I respect them as well. But, your point is valid and logical thinking sometimes goes out the window in these sort of discussions. Generally, it's an unwinnable argument.
I'd say it's not a blessing. It may be transformative in the way the Spanish Flu or Great Depression were. Whether those experiences were blessings or led to some introspection or benefit down the road is probably a subjective matter.
The plastic deer in front really did it for me.
I think the OP's thought is heartfelt and well-intended but misguided. No, this is not what we needed, and there is nothing good about it.
Is it possible that when the dust settles and the deaths have been rung up and the damage done, there will be some good to be found in the changes made or decency shown under stress? Yes, but that will not make the event itself "needed" or "good."
As for the thread's discussion of God being responsible, well, the mystery of evil and suffering has occupied the great minds of our race going back thousands of years.
The traditional Christian view, as figuratively depicted in the Bible's creation story and later expounded by the Apostle Paul and other Church fathers, is that suffering and death entered the world, and have remained there as an existential human condition, because of mankind's original rebellion against God -- a rebellion continually replayed throughout history.
In Christian theology, suffering is never good in itself but can be redemptive, which is the message of the most fundamental Christian symbol of all: the cross.
I realize many here will disagree, and I respect that, though it's unfortunate that some feel the need to do so in defensive and disrespectful terms. If you're secure and confident in your beliefs, you don't need to pour scorn on that of others.
Coming back to the pandemic, we're living through history, the bad kind, for sure. I don't see any good options -- or at least any that don't come with their own huge problems. I think prayer isn't such a bad idea at a time like this.
Is it possible that when the dust settles and the deaths have been rung up and the damage done, there will be some good to be found in the changes made or decency shown under stress? Yes, but that will not make the event itself "needed" or "good."
As for the thread's discussion of God being responsible, well, the mystery of evil and suffering has occupied the great minds of our race going back thousands of years.
The traditional Christian view, as figuratively depicted in the Bible's creation story and later expounded by the Apostle Paul and other Church fathers, is that suffering and death entered the world, and have remained there as an existential human condition, because of mankind's original rebellion against God -- a rebellion continually replayed throughout history.
In Christian theology, suffering is never good in itself but can be redemptive, which is the message of the most fundamental Christian symbol of all: the cross.
I realize many here will disagree, and I respect that, though it's unfortunate that some feel the need to do so in defensive and disrespectful terms. If you're secure and confident in your beliefs, you don't need to pour scorn on that of others.
Coming back to the pandemic, we're living through history, the bad kind, for sure. I don't see any good options -- or at least any that don't come with their own huge problems. I think prayer isn't such a bad idea at a time like this.
Who is “you,” the person who posted the original remark, or me? In either case I don’t see where there was an insult... the original remark was a statement of what he/she would ask God if he/she were a believer. It didn’t say a word about anyone else.
I don’t believe in being nasty or personally insulting to anyone either. I do think part of society has a tendency to get thin-skinned though when an open question relating to religion is raised.
I have not been kind to the OP in this thread....but I did catch something he posted.....he said his wife of 25 years left him not too long ago. He has come to grips with that, and he realizes he didn't need a big house, etc to be happy.
I am going out on a limb here and will say I think the OP is in a mental state that he is looking for the good in anything that throws his life in a tailspin. Because it might be the only way for him to come to grips with things.
I’m not even trying to argue, just raising a few questions I myself ponder, especially at times like this. But you’re right — ultimately it is probably, if not unwinnable, at least unresolvable.
My first house in 1989 was $36K. Not very big (2 BR 1 Bath), but enough.56. Don’t remember $35k domiciles.
My son's day care (Pittsburgh) notified him today that they are closing immediately. Either he or his wife will have to stop working. Just a note to some of the above comments. Where is there a daycare provider now? Let alone Safe and Secure. It is not there as you simply don't want the kids around each other. This is a serious problem.
Like I stated in my original post. This is a serious event and will impact many greatly. The impact that is most often sited in the above comments has to deal with money, it is not a loss of a loved one. Does this not speak loudly of societies current state. Just maybe we should be raising our kids ourselves or if both people work, living on one salary . We have created a lot of our own pain as a result worshiping the almighty dollar and possessions. I am not immune from the pain but this pandemic certainly gives me pause and reassign what is more important or should be important in my life. God, Family and Friends.That's all I am trying to say.
Does debating on a message board further anyone's relationship with God, family, and friends? Should we all sell our computers since they're just possessions anyway?
Question 1 it could Question 2 no, just give them away. Why does it always have to be about making a buck picknitter?
I understand what you are trying to say, but really, this isn’t a great time to be lecturing to people. There are plenty of single parents who have NOT been living beyond their means and are still going to be really screwed by this situation. Or even non-parents who still will be unable to earn their living for who knows how long. Sure, it’s a time for reflection and perspective and most especially for being extra kind to one’s fellow man and woman... but this is not a situation that can be construed as a blessing in any way.
Federal Reserve. Gotta keep perpetuating those interest payments.
The median money income of families in the United States was $9,870 in 1970, according to estimates recently released by the Bureau of the Census, Department of Commerce. This was about $440, or 4.6 percent higher than the 1969 figure of $9,430.
The median price of a home sold in the United States in January 1970 was $23,600.Aug 1, 2014
In other words, cars costing $15,000 in the year 1973 would cost $39,170.48 in 2020 for an equivalent purchase. Compared to the overall inflation rate of 3.81% during this same period, inflation for cars was lower.
The median price of a home sold in the United States in January 1970 was $23,600.Aug 1, 2014
In other words, cars costing $15,000 in the year 1973 would cost $39,170.48 in 2020 for an equivalent purchase. Compared to the overall inflation rate of 3.81% during this same period, inflation for cars was lower.
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