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Kane indicted - charges filed

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NORRISTOWN — Kathleen Kane faces trial on two felony perjury charges, a district judge determined Tuesday after hearing evidence that the attorney general swore she never signed a secrecy oath detectives later found.

But in making her ruling, the Montgomery County district judge hinted that Kane's defense lawyers had laid the groundwork for a legal defense that could make it difficult for jurors or a judge to convict Kane in county court.


Even if Kane might have wrongly told a grand jury she'd never signed the oath, she's not liable, defense attorney Gerald Shargel argued Tuesday. Perhaps Kane simply forgot that, two days after taking office, she had signed it, he said.

Plus, Shargel said, it's immaterial. The grand jury judge told jurors that Kane as attorney general is bound to certain secrecy rules whether or not she signed the oath, Shargel said, making moot the question of whether she falsely claimed not to have signed it.


"This is no deliberate act," Shargel said.

The oath issue arose months ago, as Kane defended herself against allegations she had helped leak 2009 grand jury material in an attempt to discredit a critic, and then lied about it. In August, prosecutors filed perjury and other charges against her over that. They filed the second perjury charge in September, after the signed oath was found. Kane will be tried in Montgomery County, where the grand jury was located.
 
NORRISTOWN — Kathleen Kane faces trial on two felony perjury charges, a district judge determined Tuesday after hearing evidence that the attorney general swore she never signed a secrecy oath detectives later found.

But in making her ruling, the Montgomery County district judge hinted that Kane's defense lawyers had laid the groundwork for a legal defense that could make it difficult for jurors or a judge to convict Kane in county court.


Even if Kane might have wrongly told a grand jury she'd never signed the oath, she's not liable, defense attorney Gerald Shargel argued Tuesday. Perhaps Kane simply forgot that, two days after taking office, she had signed it, he said.

Plus, Shargel said, it's immaterial. The grand jury judge told jurors that Kane as attorney general is bound to certain secrecy rules whether or not she signed the oath, Shargel said, making moot the question of whether she falsely claimed not to have signed it.


"This is no deliberate act," Shargel said.

The oath issue arose months ago, as Kane defended herself against allegations she had helped leak 2009 grand jury material in an attempt to discredit a critic, and then lied about it. In August, prosecutors filed perjury and other charges against her over that. They filed the second perjury charge in September, after the signed oath was found. Kane will be tried in Montgomery County, where the grand jury was located.

No amount of hand waving can change the news of the last few days regarding Eakin, Saylor, the PSSC, Fina, Williams, and all your other pals. LOL.

You are an odd bird, flying in an odd flock, for sure.
 
No amount of hand waving can change the news of the last few days regarding Eakin, Saylor, the PSSC, Fina, and all your other pals. LOL.

You are an odd bird for sure.

And nor does it need to. What is important is that we see exactly who did what, and rate those offenses against each other.

Let us never forget what Kathleen Kane did in the office, breaking the law. Let us never forget what Eakin did in his own home, in accordance with the law (but sleazy, no doubt).
 
And nor does it need to. What is important is that we see exactly who did what, and rate those offenses against each other.

Let us never forget what Kathleen Kane did in the office, breaking the law. Let us never forget what Eakin did in his own home, in accordance with the law (but sleazy, no doubt).

Not 24 hrs ago you proudly pointed out you had not started a thread on this.

Then you turn around and post this subject line, which is not even current. Nobody is going to see what you see when they click on your link. LOL. SMH
 
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Not 24 hrs ago you proudly pointed out you had not started a thread on this.

Then you turn around and post this subject line, which is not even current. Nobody is going to see what you see when they click on your link. LOL. SMH

Yep, hadn't started a thread. But Demlion is a good publicist. And his strategy is effective. He keeps using the worst possible words in his thread titles. I'm going to do the same.

There will be balance....and the smart reader can decide for himself.
 
And nor does it need to. What is important is that we see exactly who did what, and rate those offenses against each other.

Let us never forget what Kathleen Kane did in the office, breaking the law. Let us never forget what Eakin did in his own home, in accordance with the law (but sleazy, no doubt).

Eakin sent emails from work.
 

Umm...Yes.

You guys all pretend to care about the judiciary.
You all are OUTRAGED by Eakin's private e-mails which contain offensive jokes and mild pornography.
You are all quiet that a democrat is breaking the law.

That's intellectual dishonesty.
 
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Wishful, you understand that Fina will be indicted soon, right?

Will you celebrate that too?

As far as I am aware, Fina should be fired (used OAG hardware to send workplace inappropriate e-mails repeatedly). Not aware that he should be indicted. But if he willingly broke the law...then that's fine.
 
Eakin was is to hard core pornography. Eakins fits in with a Pa Supreme Court is very corrupt
 
As far as I am aware, Fina should be fired (used OAG hardware to send workplace inappropriate e-mails repeatedly). Not aware that he should be indicted. But if he willingly broke the law...then that's fine.
Ok. We found a point of agreement. I'm not backing Kane outright. But I am supportive of her efforts to expose corruption throughout the judiciary. And there is A LOT of conflict of interest and bad behavior. They all should go.
 
Ok. We found a point of agreement. I'm not backing Kane outright. But I am supportive of her efforts to expose corruption throughout the judiciary. And there is A LOT of conflict of interest and bad behavior. They all should go.

Well, how about just stating outright that Kane should be put on trial for her charges asap. There's little doubt she will be convicted (because she is guilty)? Because my whole point is that while Eakin may be bad, Kane is worse - and there's little outrage over Kane.
 
She can go to a speedy trial--after CSS get theirs. So maybe by 2030.

Whatever happened to "Justice delayed, justice denied"?

But don't get me wrong - I want the CSS trial as soon as humanly possible. This delaying on that trial is complete BS. We all know what's going to happen when CSS go to trial - the BOT is going to be exposed as having known about Sandusky ALL along.
 
Letting people like you run amok around here makes people leave, and post less frequently. Some days there is just too much garbage to sift through.

I post only in response to Demlion's posts. The quantity of his posts on the subject far exceed mine. You're simply dishonest when you pretend otherwise.
 
You're right. He didn't send any emails to other judges or prosecutors. Silly me.

You said Eakin sent e-mails from work. I called you a liar. Link to something that says he sent e-mails from work and I'll reply that I was wrong. How simple is that?
 
She needs to resign immediately. What a laughingstock PA has become. Who else has an Attorney General whose license to practice law has been suspended? The Commonwealth's highest ranking lawyer has been suspended from the practice of law, yet she continues to serve as AG!!! How can she give legal advice with a suspended license? Where is the PA Disciplinary Board in all of this? What a freaking' joke.
 
She needs to resign immediately. What a laughingstock PA has become. Who else has an Attorney General whose license to practice law has been suspended? The Commonwealth's highest ranking lawyer has been suspended from the practice of law, yet she continues to serve as AG!!! How can she give legal advice with a suspended license? Where is the PA Disciplinary Board in all of this? What a freaking' joke.

Elmo - it is amazing. We have an absolute criminal as an attorney general, but because she's a democrat, democrats on this board support her. They're just nuts. And they think that by getting rid of Eakin, everyone will say "OK, now PA isn't corrupt".

It would be like really focusing on under-age drinking while ignoring murderers. No one would ever do that.
 
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Elmo - it is amazing. We have an absolute criminal as an attorney general, but because she's a democrat, democrats on this board support her. They're just nuts. And they think that by getting rid of Eakin, everyone will say "OK, now PA isn't corrupt".

It would be like really focusing on under-age drinking while ignoring murderers. No one would ever do that.
Stop. She is not "a criminal" until proven so. Have you not learned anything from the whole rush to judgment? I am a pure independent. I see major flaws in everyone in the judiciary. They all need independent review and possibly trials. But they are not criminals until conviction.
 
Stop. She is not "a criminal" until proven so. Have you not learned anything from the whole rush to judgment? I am a pure independent. I see major flaws in everyone in the judiciary. They all need independent review and possibly trials. But they are not criminals until conviction.

By your logic, Eakin is then doubly exempt - because he hasn't even been indicted. In fact, no one is even thinking that he will be indicted. Because it isn't even alleged that he did anything illegal. Yet you are extremely worked up over Eakin and very quiet about Kane.

Why?
 
NORRISTOWN — Kathleen Kane faces trial on two felony perjury charges, a district judge determined Tuesday after hearing evidence that the attorney general swore she never signed a secrecy oath detectives later found.

But in making her ruling, the Montgomery County district judge hinted that Kane's defense lawyers had laid the groundwork for a legal defense that could make it difficult for jurors or a judge to convict Kane in county court.


Even if Kane might have wrongly told a grand jury she'd never signed the oath, she's not liable, defense attorney Gerald Shargel argued Tuesday. Perhaps Kane simply forgot that, two days after taking office, she had signed it, he said.

Plus, Shargel said, it's immaterial. The grand jury judge told jurors that Kane as attorney general is bound to certain secrecy rules whether or not she signed the oath, Shargel said, making moot the question of whether she falsely claimed not to have signed it.


"This is no deliberate act," Shargel said.

The oath issue arose months ago, as Kane defended herself against allegations she had helped leak 2009 grand jury material in an attempt to discredit a critic, and then lied about it. In August, prosecutors filed perjury and other charges against her over that. They filed the second perjury charge in September, after the signed oath was found. Kane will be tried in Montgomery County, where the grand jury was located.

Sending/Receiving porn on the commonwealth's equipment and/or network is a big deal from an IT security stand point. Poor decisions like that could compromise the network and could cause havoc with a breach. It's like hiding the key to your office in the base of a flag stand.
 
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By your logic, Eakin is then doubly exempt - because he hasn't even been indicted. In fact, no one is even thinking that he will be indicted. Because it isn't even alleged that he did anything illegal. Yet you are extremely worked up over Eakin and very quiet about Kane.

Why?
We know at this point that Eakin broke ethics rules. So he should resign. As they sift through evidence, I expect more to indict Fina who I believe has built a case suggesting prosecutorial misconduct.
 
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She needs to resign immediately. What a laughingstock PA has become. Who else has an Attorney General whose license to practice law has been suspended? The Commonwealth's highest ranking lawyer has been suspended from the practice of law, yet she continues to serve as AG!!! How can she give legal advice with a suspended license? Where is the PA Disciplinary Board in all of this? What a freaking' joke.

Seth, is that you homie??
 
Sending/Receiving porn on the commonwealth's equipment and/or network is a big deal from an IT security stand point. Poor decisions like that could compromise the network and could cause havoc with a breach. It's like hiding the key to your office in the base of a flag stand.

Yes, and Fina, who did exactly that should be fired. Eakin did not do that. Period.
 
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