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Kane still opposes the release of emails

I have supported her, but this does seem to get more odd with every passing day.

Oh well. I guess Mr. Zwick will be here momentarily to rail against her a bit more.
 
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Could she be anymore inept? It's like she's allergic to good PR moves.

The headline is somewhat misleading. That doesn't change how badly this makes her look after her posturing last week.

http://www.mcall.com/news/nationwor...anted-to-make-public-0820-20150820-story.html
Just like C S & S, she may want to win in the court of law rather than a public opinion poll. This case and the Pa grand Jury System gets stranger and stranger every day. There's a reason most states have done away with the Grand jury system, maybe Pa's corrupt politicos could do well to do the same. maybe they want it to stay this way to get even with those who oppose them. Who knows????????????????????
 
Just like C S & S, she may want to win in the court of law rather than a public opinion poll. This case and the Pa grand Jury System gets stranger and stranger every day. There's a reason most states have done away with the Grand jury system, maybe Pa's corrupt politicos could do well to do the same. maybe they want it to stay this way to get even with those who oppose them. Who knows????????????????????


Outside of Philadelphia, I'm not convinced that overall, PA politics is any more corrupt than other states.
 
Outside of Philadelphia, I'm not convinced that overall, PA politics is any more corrupt than other states.
Kids for Cash, not centered in Philly but in Luzerne County, was a breathtaking piece. I serve on a statewide board of WV attorneys and someone during one of our meetings was talking about a WV judge in ethical trouble. I told them about kids for cash and there were audible intakes of breath.

It is also kind of silly to stay that once you set aside a huge percentage of the state's population, and don't consider it, the other 65% of the population is repped by honest pols.
 
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Outside of Philadelphia, I'm not convinced that overall, PA politics is any more corrupt than other states.
Let's see, Mellow, Veon, DeWeese, the Orie sisters, Perzel, Freese, McCord and the list goes on. By the way, none from Phily.
 
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Let's see, Mellow, Veon, DeWeese, the Orie sisters, Perzel, Freese, McCord and the list goes on. By the way, none from Phily.

Sure. There are exceptions.

That's why I stated that "overall" and excluding Philadelphia, the rest of the state would compare to other states.

Philly is in a league of their own -- similar to Chicago.
 
I don't get this lady at all. Could she possibly be waiting till elections draw closer to release?
No. This is about survival now.

Possible reasons-

Her attorneys want to keep them under hidden until trial for dramatic effect.

She already released all the really damaging emails and has been bluffing about what she has.

The emails are just as damaging, if not more so, to members of her party too.

What's remarkable is her continued dishonesty after all this time. I can't believe she still thinks certain things won't come out in the wash.
 
I think the more simple explanation is that she is negotiating a deal with the power brokers that were behind her indictment in the first place. She has emails that are damning to a lot of people on both sides of the aisle. She threatens to release them so that she can get the people against her (and her own side who are not supporting her for fear of retribution) to start to negotiate on this whole thing.
 
Let's see, Mellow, Veon, DeWeese, the Orie sisters, Perzel, Freese, McCord and the list goes on. By the way, none from Phily.

Perzel represented the 172nd district in Philadelphia County. I'm pretty sure most people would consider that Philadelphia:)
 
I could be mistaken but I thought that Kane stated theres a preliminary hearing early next week re: her charges and that more will be revealed then? Sit tight for a few more days and lets see what happens.
 
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Could she be anymore inept? It's like she's allergic to good PR moves.

The headline is somewhat misleading. That doesn't change how badly this makes her look after her posturing last week.

http://www.mcall.com/news/nationwor...anted-to-make-public-0820-20150820-story.html
As I pointed out MINUTES after the thinly- vieled PR release from the Judge..... Kane was smart enough not to leap Into the trap that the scumbags had hoped she would.

Now , go sit in the corner dumbass
 
No. This is about survival now.

Possible reasons-

Her attorneys want to keep them under hidden until trial for dramatic effect.

She already released all the really damaging emails and has been bluffing about what she has.

The emails are just as damaging, if not more so, to members of her party too.

What's remarkable is her continued dishonesty after all this time. I can't believe she still thinks certain things won't come out in the wash.
The emails are just as damaging, if not more so, to members of her party too.

This is a compelling enough reason.
 
I think the more simple explanation is that she is negotiating a deal with the power brokers that were behind her indictment in the first place. She has emails that are damning to a lot of people on both sides of the aisle. She threatens to release them so that she can get the people against her (and her own side who are not supporting her for fear of retribution) to start to negotiate on this whole thing.
What brutal miscalculations she made from the start. She came in lacking the requisite experience and Mellow's downfall really hurt her. She needs a real powerborker like "Fast Eddie" to step in and help. Doesn't seem to be happening.
 
The headline is misleading. Why the fake posturing with Carpenter though?
Maybe she thought the December decision would stay sealed and she could BS her way to trial?

It might have worked if she didn't use such strong language about Carpenter at the press conference.

This is par for the course with Kane. There's a litany of false/misleading statements made during press conferences to her credit.
 
Could she be anymore inept? It's like she's allergic to good PR moves.

The headline is somewhat misleading. That doesn't change how badly this makes her look after her posturing last week.

http://www.mcall.com/news/nationwor...anted-to-make-public-0820-20150820-story.html
I could not open the link for a few hours this morning, but here is why she is holding the emails:

"For her criminal case, Ardo said she will offer 'a vigorous defense that includes the emails, and that defense will begin on Monday,' when a preliminary hearing is scheduled in Norristown on the charges filed by the Montgomery County district attorney."

None of these sonsabitches gets a weekend to look 'em over and try to respond. Sorry. You will see what she wants to release when she releases it--Monday, and not before. You want some other deal, drop the charges. I cannot imagine why you speculate on all those other reasons when it is obvious right in the article YOU linked.
 
Maybe she thought the December decision would stay sealed and she could BS her way to trial?

It might have worked if she didn't use such strong language about Carpenter at the press conference.

This is par for the course with Kane. There's a litany of false/misleading statements made during press conferences to her credit.
Do you really not understand that she now has carte blanche from the state Supremes to use them in a way which benefits HER? And are you so dumb you cannot see why she has done that?
 
As I pointed out MINUTES after the thinly- vieled PR release from the Judge..... Kane was smart enough not to leap Into the trap that the scumbags had hoped she would.

Now , go sit in the corner dumbass
Could you be anymore obtuse?

She unequivocally stated Carpenter was protecting people from those emails only to have it come out the ball has been in her court since December.

If there was a trap she walked right into it moron.
 
Could you be anymore obtuse?

She unequivocally stated Carpenter was protecting people from those emails only to have it come out the ball has been in her court since December.

If there was a trap she walked right into it moron.
Let's watch and see what happens Monday, Sparky. She is not waiting until trial. The fecal matter is gonna hit the air-movement device on Monday. Hope Fina sleeps well over the weekend.
 
Do you really not understand that she now has carte blanche from the state Supremes to use them in a way which benefits HER? And are you so dumb you cannot see why she has done that?
Do you really not understand she's had that ability since December?

Are you too dumb to see she's been lying?
 
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I could not open the link for a few hours this morning, but here is why she is holding the emails:

"For her criminal case, Ardo said she will offer 'a vigorous defense that includes the emails, and that defense will begin on Monday,' when a preliminary hearing is scheduled in Norristown on the charges filed by the Montgomery County district attorney."

None of these sonsabitches gets a weekend to look 'em over and try to respond. Sorry. You will see what she wants to release when she releases it--Monday, and not before. You want some other deal, drop the charges. I cannot imagine why you speculate on all those other reasons when it is obvious right in the article YOU linked.

If that were the case, Wolf wouldn't be asking for her resignation.
 
Do you really not understand that she now has carte blanche from the state Supremes to use them in a way which benefits HER? And are you so dumb you cannot see why she has done that?
Trying to see all sides here. I am not surprised Kane is now in a box on this and I posted something last week to the effect that if she receives the "OK" to release the e-mails, that might be the last thing she really wants.
In Kane's defense, if I understand all of this correctly, here is her problem - the recent Supreme Court input was simply to unseal some Court Orders. They did not say she can release anything she wants. Let's assume Fina testified before a grand jury. And let's assume Kane releases e-mails that implicate him. There is apparently a Court Order that bars Kanefrom doing anything that would "intimidate a witness". When she fired Barker, that led to a still ongoing investigation of Kane for possibly firing him as a form of witness intimidation. So who's to say that if she releases more e-mails it will not result in further investigations. I must say I see her point.
 
Let's watch and see what happens Monday, Sparky. She is not waiting until trial. The fecal matter is gonna hit the air-movement device on Monday. Hope Fina sleeps well over the weekend.
Okay big guy.

Quick recap:

Kane claims the threat of releasing damaging is the real reason she's charged with crimes. She also claims that a judge is preventing their release.

Recently unsealed documents prove the judge isn't preventing their release and she's known this since December.

But you think come Monday she's going drop something damaging?

You have to be the most gullible people on the planet.

BTW, she was so scared of the protective order she fired someone that testified against her and sighted "restructuring" as the reason.

If she were to deliver on Monday it would the first time.
 
I could not open the link for a few hours this morning, but here is why she is holding the emails:

"For her criminal case, Ardo said she will offer 'a vigorous defense that includes the emails, and that defense will begin on Monday,' when a preliminary hearing is scheduled in Norristown on the charges filed by the Montgomery County district attorney."

None of these sonsabitches gets a weekend to look 'em over and try to respond. Sorry. You will see what she wants to release when she releases it--Monday, and not before. You want some other deal, drop the charges. I cannot imagine why you speculate on all those other reasons when it is obvious right in the article YOU linked.

It is almost amazing how disingenuous this group of posters have been. Since they say so themselves, they obviously believe that everybody except them is stupid. Or, at least they hope to convince others of that. (I think that has worked on some of our slower posters, to be honest.)
 
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If that were the case, Wolf wouldn't be asking for her resignation.

Why not? The answer to that question is water under the bridge for him now. And still, it does not satisfy the likes of you. LOL. You have to be the most partisan person posting on this board. That has totally restricted your ability to reason on almost any topic. LOL. And, you seem blissfully unaware.

Well, not always blissfully. Sometimes you are off-the-rails "outraged." Those are among your most amusing posts.

Nevertheless, always...always...unaware.

And, btw, I know...I know....It does not count as partisan if it is your side that is doing it. LOL. LOL.
 
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Could you be anymore obtuse?

She unequivocally stated Carpenter was protecting people from those emails only to have it come out the ball has been in her court since December.

If there was a trap she walked right into it moron.

Go sit on the corner, dumbass
 
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Trying to see all sides here. I am not surprised Kane is now in a box on this and I posted something last week to the effect that if she receives the "OK" to release the e-mails, that might be the last thing she really wants.
In Kane's defense, if I understand all of this correctly, here is her problem - the recent Supreme Court input was simply to unseal some Court Orders. They did not say she can release anything she wants. Let's assume Fina testified before a grand jury. And let's assume Kane releases e-mails that implicate him. There is apparently a Court Order that bars Kanefrom doing anything that would "intimidate a witness". When she fired Barker, that led to a still ongoing investigation of Kane for possibly firing him as a form of witness intimidation. So who's to say that if she releases more e-mails it will not result in further investigations. I must say I see her point.
What planet do you live on?

They unsealed it because she's lying. The protective order isn't preventing the release of anything.
 
What planet do you live on?

They unsealed it because she's lying. The protective order isn't preventing the release of anything.
You are correct that the protective order is not preventing the release of anything. But that does not mean there may not be consequences for any release. The protective orders also did not say she could not fire staff members. She did and now she is being investigated for said action. This is not as black and white as many would like it to be.,
 
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What planet do you live on?

They unsealed it because she's lying. The protective order isn't preventing the release of anything.

WTF? He said he is trying to be on all sides. You trying to chase him off yours altogether. Who's dumb again?
 
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