Kate Spade, Suicide..Yikes

[Obliviax]

Things are really off the rails. Famous fashion icon, Kate Spade, apparently committed suicide (with one of her scarves) by hanging. She was 55.

Man, if you are considering this option...just try to make it one more day and make a few phone calls to friends. An acquaintance committed suicide over the Memorial Day weekend, which has set many in my industry in a tizzy.

 

[ILLINOISLION]

Obli - “hang in there one more day”?

 

[fairgambit]

Your point is well taken. Suicide has touched a number of families that I know. Often it comes unexpectedly and, only after the tragedy do people look back and see the signs they missed.

 

[Victor E. Bell]

Reminded of this poem we studied in school...

Richard Cory
BY EDWIN ARLINGTON ROBINSON
Whenever Richard Cory went down town,
We people on the pavement looked at him:
He was a gentleman from sole to crown,
Clean favored, and imperially slim.

And he was always quietly arrayed,
And he was always human when he talked;
But still he fluttered pulses when he said,
"Good-morning," and he glittered when he walked.

And he was rich—yes, richer than a king—
And admirably schooled in every grace:
In fine, we thought that he was everything
To make us wish that we were in his place.

So on we worked, and waited for the light,
And went without the meat, and cursed the bread;
And Richard Cory, one calm summer night,
Went home and put a bullet through his head.

 

[PSU Soupy]

Interesting Kate Spade fact.....married to David Spade's brother.

Andrew Spade looks like a cleaner, less Joe Dirt version of David.

 

[fairgambit]

"And he was always human when he talked;
But still he fluttered pulses when he said,
"Good-morning," and he glittered when he walked."



Richard Cory tried to reach out to people but no one returned his efforts. He was lonely but no one knew, or cared. They saw his wealth, but not the man.

 

[The Spin Meister]

Reminded of this poem we studied in school...

Richard Cory
BY EDWIN ARLINGTON ROBINSON
Whenever Richard Cory went down town,
We people on the pavement looked at him:
He was a gentleman from sole to crown,
Clean favored, and imperially slim.

And he was always quietly arrayed,
And he was always human when he talked;
But still he fluttered pulses when he said,
"Good-morning," and he glittered when he walked.

And he was rich—yes, richer than a king—
And admirably schooled in every grace:
In fine, we thought that he was everything
To make us wish that we were in his place.

So on we worked, and waited for the light,
And went without the meat, and cursed the bread;
And Richard Cory, one calm summer night,
Went home and put a bullet through his head.

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What a stupid anti-capitalism post. You think only rich guys commit suicide? Shame that you attempted to hijack such a serious thread to push your propaganda.

Have had a couple friends cash in early. One, drug addiction, put a 44 Magnum in his mouth. Poor wife heard the shot and saw his brains all over the bedroom wall. Don't know if his high-school-aged daughter was home at the time and saw the carnage. Another checked out after she heard her ex-hubby was getting remarried.....imagine having that on your mind as you start your new marriage.

Leaves terrible scars on friends and family. I've concluded that suicide is about the most selfish thing one can do.

 

[Howie'81]

Things are really off the rails. Famous fashion icon, Kate Spade, apparently committed suicide (with one of her scarves) by hanging. She was 55.

Man, if you are considering this option...just try to make it one more day and make a few phone calls to friends. An acquaintance committed suicide over the Memorial Day weekend, which has set many in my industry in a tizzy.

Sorry to hear that.

 

[Grant Green]

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What a stupid anti-capitalism post. You think only rich guys commit suicide? Shame that you attempted to hijack such a serious thread to push your propaganda.

Wow. I don't think you understand the poem at all.

 

[The Spin Meister]

Wow. I don't think you understand the poem at all.

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I understand the poem completely. It is supposedly to show that anyone, no matter how happy they may seem, is hiding some dark side and capable of suicide. But the poem just happens to be about a guy that is 'richer than a king' and not about a working class guy, a house wife with several great kids, or a young successful person with his/her whole life ahead. No it was about a super rich guy...a subliminal message. Liberal dog whistles....

 

[Victor E. Bell]

Shame that you attempted to hijack such a serious thread to push your propaganda.

I'm far from anti-capitalism and I have no propaganda to push.

 

[Grant Green]

He brought up a poem and your first inclination was to make it about economic ideology.

It’s interesting that the toxicity of our current tribalism colors all aspects of life in this country...even misery disparity and tragedy.

God help us all.

^^This^^

 

[fairgambit]

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I understand the poem completely. It is supposedly to show that anyone, no matter how happy they may seem, is hiding some dark side and capable of suicide. But the poem just happens to be about a guy that is 'richer than a king' and not about a working class guy, a house wife with several great kids, or a young successful person with his/her whole life ahead. No it was about a super rich guy...a subliminal message. Liberal dog whistles....

We could debate the meaning of the poem, but I did not see its posting here as agenda driven.

 

[LionDeNittany]

Things are really off the rails. Famous fashion icon, Kate Spade, apparently committed suicide (with one of her scarves) by hanging. She was 55.

Man, if you are considering this option...just try to make it one more day and make a few phone calls to friends. An acquaintance committed suicide over the Memorial Day weekend, which has set many in my industry in a tizzy.

So, they sold her namesake brand years ago. And they were trying to launch a new brand.

Curious if there were financial issues.

Otherwise, she was 55. Could have been health.

LdN

 

[ILLINOISLION]

So, they sold her namesake brand years ago. And they were trying to launch a new brand.

Curious if there were financial issues.

Otherwise, she was 55. Could have been health.

LdN

Definitely watching too many crime-related shows.....but there’s always the small chance that it turns out down-the-road that it wasn’t a suicide.

 

[SUPERTODD]

I am as pro-free market a person as exists AND love that poem. I own quite a few volumes of Robinson’s work. Love Miniver Cheevy too. Does that make me anti-reality?

 

[LafayetteBear]

I'm far from anti-capitalism and I have no propaganda to push.

Never thought you were pushing any kind of political point or agenda. It was a topical and thoughtful poem that you posted.

Then TSM came out of left field with his political rant. Which is in character for him. You should be glad this thread does not touch on the subject of Israel. That would REALLY have set him off.

 

[Delco Lion]

That's very sad. Much like the passing of Avicci.

 

[MJG-90]

But the poem just happens to be about a guy that is 'richer than a king'

Sort of like the lady this thread is about? I think the poem is very appropriate in this situation. Thanks for posting it Victor.

 

[RabidLion]

Things are really off the rails. Famous fashion icon, Kate Spade, apparently committed suicide (with one of her scarves) by hanging. She was 55.

Man, if you are considering this option...just try to make it one more day and make a few phone calls to friends. An acquaintance committed suicide over the Memorial Day weekend, which has set many in my industry in a tizzy.

Crazy . Just found out walking by her apartment building at lunch .

 

[GreggK]

Obli - “hang in there one more day”?

HAHAHAHA I ALWAYS LOVE A GOOD SUICIDE JOKE!!!! Good one, really funny!!!!!

 

[MJG-90]

HAHAHAHA I ALWAYS LOVE A GOOD SUICIDE JOKE!!!! Good one, really funny!!!!!

That wasn't a joke. The OP was edited.

 

[GreggK]

That wasn't a joke. The OP was edited.

Got it. My bad. Sorry Illinois.

I get touchy about making fun of suicide.

 

[LafayetteBear]

That wasn't a joke. The OP was edited.

Whoops!

 

[massimoManca II]

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What a stupid anti-capitalism post. You think only rich guys commit suicide? Shame that you attempted to hijack such a serious thread to push your propaganda.

Have had a couple friends cash in early. One, drug addiction, put a 44 Magnum in his mouth. Poor wife heard the shot and saw his brains all over the bedroom wall. Don't know if his high-school-aged daughter was home at the time and saw the carnage. Another checked out after she heard her ex-hubby was getting remarried.....imagine having that on your mind as you start your new marriage.

Leaves terrible scars on friends and family. I've concluded that suicide is about the most selfish thing one can do.

#moron

 

[phillybillyreprise]

 

[PSUArnie]

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I understand the poem completely. It is supposedly to show that anyone, no matter how happy they may seem, is hiding some dark side and capable of suicide. But the poem just happens to be about a guy that is 'richer than a king' and not about a working class guy, a house wife with several great kids, or a young successful person with his/her whole life ahead. No it was about a super rich guy...a subliminal message. Liberal dog whistles....

You're way over-reacting. Suicide doesn't care how rich, poor, handsome, ugly or anything else that you can think of. I assume nearly everyone reading this thread knows someone that has committed suicide and that disease doesn't discriminate.

 

[tboyer]

Who knows what it was in this case, but a lot of times it's just depression where the meds are not working. A lot of depression is not readily treatable. So life itself is one painful day after another, and people just get sick of it so they choose to exit. People who haven't experienced depression can't relate to this at all. A lot of the alcoholics and opioid users in the world are just bipolar or depressed and self-medicating/committing slow suicide. And an awful lot of the ODs out there are not accidents, but they're staged as accidents to lessen the pain of the survivors. Not a whole lot the rest of us can do about it except I guess to support legalization of medical marijuana and research into LSD and psilocybin which offer some really promising therapies.

 

[wbcincy]

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I understand the poem completely. It is supposedly to show that anyone, no matter how happy they may seem, is hiding some dark side and capable of suicide. But the poem just happens to be about a guy that is 'richer than a king' and not about a working class guy, a house wife with several great kids, or a young successful person with his/her whole life ahead. No it was about a super rich guy...a subliminal message. Liberal dog whistles....

And if it were about a poor guy, methinks you'd assert it's a subliminal liberal message arguing that the rich man's oppression made the poor man depressed and we should adopt socialism in order to eliminate the poor and thereby end suicide.

You can make yourself believe anything if you've already decided it's true.

 

[T J]

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[Marylovesthelions]

When I was a teen, my I often considered suicide but never had the courage. My Penn State experience gave me the sense of worth to build a very good career and a wonderful family who I am very proud of. If you are in despair tomorrow is your best friend.

 

[Obliviax]

Got it. My bad. Sorry Illinois.

I get touchy about making fun of suicide.

No problem.... People are on edge today

Suicide touched my life on my wife's side. I had to break the news to several and make most of the arrangements. He was going through a divorce but it wasn't final. So I had to balance the family against the soon to be ex wife's legal authority. It was quite a week and a reason why I got active in helping other men go through these times.

 

[LionJim]

^^This^^

No shit. Totally off the rails.

 

[fairgambit]

When I was a teen, my I often considered suicide but never had the courage. My Penn State experience gave me the sense of worth to build a very good career and a wonderful family who I am very proud of. If you are in despair tomorrow is your best friend.

I don't want to trivialize your post Mary, or come off schmaltzy, but this board is better for your presence.

 

[RGWhirly]

So, they sold her namesake brand years ago. And they were trying to launch a new brand.

Curious if there were financial issues.

Otherwise, she was 55. Could have been health.

LdN

Coach recently bought Kate Spade line for 2.4B. Doubt it was financial.

 

[07mantle]

Obli - “hang in there one more day”?

douche .....bag

 

[Art]

Coach recently bought Kate Spade line for 2.4B. Doubt it was financial.

Nope.The Spades haven't been involved with the namesake company for over ten years, Coach bought it from Liz Claiborne (actually the parent company thereof). The Spades got in the vicinity of $90-95mm when they sold it to Neiman Marcus.

 

[ILLINOISLION]

grace:

douche .....bag

FU Asswipe - the original OP edited his post. If you actually read the thread before you post something, well, guess that’s too hard for you.

 

[Victor E. Bell]

I still have a first baseman's mitt from a friend of mine who shot himself (drunk, over a girl) in 1988. He was two years older than me and I was coming up behind him as a 1B in high school years before. Gave me the glove. Used to play golf with him a lot. Think about the guy a lot. After it happened mutual friends told me various things, such as he wanted to sell a 7 or 8 thousand dollar Harley he had for a few hundred dollars. Wanted to give away all his hunting and fishing equipment. Things like this are to be recognized as a signal. Nobody understood it at the time. It was just "weird." He may have been drinking at the time but it was planned out in sober hours.

 

[artsandletters]

"And he was always human when he talked;
But still he fluttered pulses when he said,
"Good-morning," and he glittered when he walked."



Richard Cory tried to reach out to people but no one returned his efforts. He was lonely but no one knew, or cared. They saw his wealth, but not the man.

Things aren’t always as they seem.