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Ken Frazier decides to take a stand on something (link)

It's a shame he didn't think as deeply when he was on the BoT.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-virginia-protests-merck-idUSKCN1AU1FM

EDIT: Not a political thread. Simply an observation about a feckless former BoT member.


Was just about to post this. Ken showed something we have not heretofore seen. He also is very well articulate on this topic unless skinhead ideology resides in the head of the recipient of his message. This is a big step up for Ken IMHO.
 
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It's a shame he didn't think as deeply when he was on the BoT.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-virginia-protests-merck-idUSKCN1AU1FM

EDIT: Not a political thread. Simply an observation about a feckless former BoT member.
From the Pennlive article,
"America's leaders must honor our fundamental values by clearly rejecting expressions of hatred, bigotry and group supremacy," Frazier said in a statement posted on Twitter by the company.
One could argue BOT elite, including Frazier and Peetz acted with hatred and group supremacy in their handling of the Sandusky situation with at least Paterno and the alumni.
I fail to see a connection/conflict between the recent controversy and his participation on Trump's panel...was he required to stand during the National Anthem.
 
It's a shame he didn't think as deeply when he was on the BoT.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-virginia-protests-merck-idUSKCN1AU1FM

EDIT: Not a political thread. Simply an observation about a feckless former BoT member.

Predictable Nothing more than a timely and convenient excuse to leave. His leaving was all but necessary considering the administration's views on such things as TPP and drug pricing weren't aligned with Merck's best interests. Frazier sat on Obama's export council but didn't find it necessary to resign then when Obama refused to say the words "radical Islamic terrorism". This is more a business motivated decision, not a personal one.
 
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This is actually a very easy issue. Sadly, many on both sides use it as a way to stoke emotions to gain donations and income.

  1. Freedom of speech is constitutionally guaranteed and fundamental. This includes Nazis or whatever group you hate the most. It is still constitutionally guaranteed.
  2. Those rights include everyone's right to speak out against any body, meaning the right to counter protest is also guaranteed.
  3. What is not guaranteed, in fact is illegal, is to become physical against other people and/or property. What this means is you can speak or yell, but you cannot throw stuff, push, punch, shoot, set on fire or anything else that is physical. When you get physical, you lose. That is where, rightfully, the line is drawn. So if you are a neo nazi, or protesting neo nazis you can yell and scream all you want. When you punch or burn, you lose.
 
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Bernstein: Ken Frazier Steps Up Again
August 14, 2017 10:06 AM

By Dan Bernstein–CBSChicago.com senior columnist

(CBS) Donald Trump is accepting enough of murderous white supremacists, but he was quick to direct his righteous anger at a different target Monday morning: Kenneth Frazier.

Frazier is the CEO of Merck and resigned from the president’s council of manufacturing leaders in the wake of Trump’s refusal to decry specifically or disown the ideology and violence of the hate group in Charlottesville over the weekend. Frazier said “America’s leaders must honor our fundamental values” by rejecting expression of bigotry and hatred. In a statement on Merck’s Twitter account, Frazier said, “As a matter of personal conscience, I feel a responsibility to take a stand against intolerance and extremism.”

Trump then tweeted “Now that Ken Frazier of Merck Pharma has resigned from President’s Manufacturing Council,he will have more time to LOWER RIPOFF DRUG PRICES!”

See, when Trump really wants to get after someone or something, he doesn’t equivocate or delay.

Frazier’s name was last seen in this space, you may remember, in July 2012 in a column titled “Goodness Among Evil At Penn State,” in which we noted Frazier’s powerful role in ousting Joe Paterno from the school for all of the correct reasons. Even amid the rampant sickness that infects Penn State to this day, it was Frazier who was unafraid to speak truth about the horrors that were facilitated by Paterno and his football program.

“It was about these norms of society that I’m talking about: that every adult has a responsibility for every other child in our community,” Frazier, a Penn State grad and Harvard Law alum, told the New York Times in January of that year. “And that we have a responsibility not to do the minimum, the legal requirement. We have a responsibility for ensuring that we can take every effort that’s within our power not only to prevent further harm to that child, but every other child.”

Frazier chaired the internal special investigation, hired former FBI director Louis Freeh and empowered him to shine as harsh a light as needed. It was Freeh’s report that set in motion the prosecution of school officials that only reached sentencing just this past March. Frazier always understood that his help came too late.

It was Frazier who put his public face on the announcement of the findings.

“Our hearts remain heavy, and we are deeply ashamed,” he said. “We allowed the former administration to characterize to us the issues, and we failed to ask the right questions, the tough questions or to take definitive action. Put simply, we did not force the issue.”

It makes sense, then, that Ken Frazier would have the courage of conviction to act on his beliefs yet again. It should also not surprise us that our unfortunate president could not bring himself to denounce this latest vile amalgam of Nazism and the Ku Klux Klan but lashed out personally at an African-American business executive as soon as he had the chance.
 
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Bernstein: Ken Frazier Steps Up Again
August 14, 2017 10:06 AM

By Dan Bernstein–CBSChicago.com senior columnist

(CBS) Donald Trump is accepting enough of murderous white supremacists, but he was quick to direct his righteous anger at a different target Monday morning: Kenneth Frazier.

Frazier is the CEO of Merck and resigned from the president’s council of manufacturing leaders in the wake of Trump’s refusal to decry specifically or disown the ideology and violence of the hate group in Charlottesville over the weekend. Frazier said “America’s leaders must honor our fundamental values” by rejecting expression of bigotry and hatred. In a statement on Merck’s Twitter account, Frazier said, “As a matter of personal conscience, I feel a responsibility to take a stand against intolerance and extremism.”

Trump then tweeted “Now that Ken Frazier of Merck Pharma has resigned from President’s Manufacturing Council,he will have more time to LOWER RIPOFF DRUG PRICES!”

See, when Trump really wants to get after someone or something, he doesn’t equivocate or delay.

Frazier’s name was last seen in this space, you may remember, in July 2012 in a column titled “Goodness Among Evil At Penn State,” in which we noted Frazier’s powerful role in ousting Joe Paterno from the school for all of the correct reasons. Even amid the rampant sickness that infects Penn State to this day, it was Frazier who was unafraid to speak truth about the horrors that were facilitated by Paterno and his football program.

“It was about these norms of society that I’m talking about: that every adult has a responsibility for every other child in our community,” Frazier, a Penn State grad and Harvard Law alum, told the New York Times in January of that year. “And that we have a responsibility not to do the minimum, the legal requirement. We have a responsibility for ensuring that we can take every effort that’s within our power not only to prevent further harm to that child, but every other child.”

Frazier chaired the internal special investigation, hired former FBI director Louis Freeh and empowered him to shine as harsh a light as needed. It was Freeh’s report that set in motion the prosecution of school officials that only reached sentencing just this past March. Frazier always understood that his help came too late.

It was Frazier who put his public face on the announcement of the findings.

“Our hearts remain heavy, and we are deeply ashamed,” he said. “We allowed the former administration to characterize to us the issues, and we failed to ask the right questions, the tough questions or to take definitive action. Put simply, we did not force the issue.”

It makes sense, then, that Ken Frazier would have the courage of conviction to act on his beliefs yet again. It should also not surprise us that our unfortunate president could not bring himself to denounce this latest vile amalgam of Nazism and the Ku Klux Klan but lashed out personally at an African-American business executive as soon as he had the chance.
This Bernstein dude is quite the anus isn't he? Did someone dressed as Nittany Lion take his candy when he was a kid? His ignorance and vehement hate of all things Penn State is so disturbing.
 
it is a shame Joe did not go to the police.
Its a shame that a manufactured "story" about a manufactured "rape" was permitted into the public's "media coverage". In 2012 it could be said that the "Story" of MM's testimony seemed plausible...after all the State of PA provided the "Story" to the public and "the Honorable Judge" Freeh confirmed that "Story" - but this is 2017...the bloom is off the rose of deception that the PA OAG created and promoted.

Not ONE PERSON confirmed any of the multiple versions of "criminal testimony" that the state of PA used in this case. NOT ONE PERSON!!! Additionally, the reported "victim" stated nothing happened in the showers in 2001 at Penn State. How can you report to the Police a "non-crime" when not one of those who MM told his 2001 incident to ACTED like he needed to do any form of police reporting.

TRUTH IS...what MM told Paterno about this event can only be speculated today. Facts conc erning what happened in 2001 can only be confirmed by multiple sources and then compared with actions taken in 2001.

Just as reasonable as MM's testimony requiring Police involvement is this......I suspect that MM wanted to per-empt Sandusky reporting something on MM's actions that night (drinking maybe??? - women in locker room?? who knows or cares!!)...his meeting with Paterno may have been to protect himself with a personally created "cover story" ...not to report what he "saw" concerning Sandusky.

There are way too many suspicious components to ANY of MM's "testimonies"
for him to have a "reason of criminality" as the exclusive reason for contacting Paterno. It also makes no sense why he has had such a continuous "refinement" of details concerning his "testimony" There are just too many "newly remembered" details in his progression of testimony "versions" that are just too cozy with the possibility of OAG "memory assistance". REMEMBER...the state OAG has a motive for MM's testimony which benefits them - ACCESS TO PSU MONEY and divergence from OAG potential criminality!!!! These are powerful reasons for abuse of the state's influence, access to the media and its abuse of standard judicial processes. These are all factually based features of OAG's actions in this matter!

Sorry....by MM's testimonies alone....the core "testimony" on which all of the Penn State Scandal is based is nothing less than PERJURY...and this unprosecuted charge is based upon CONSISTENT and actual testimonies from every source who MM spoke to in 2001.

So when you say "...it is a shame Joe did not go to the police..." you must be reading from one form of the fantasy that the OAG created!
 
Bernstein: Ken Frazier Steps Up Again
August 14, 2017 10:06 AM

By Dan Bernstein–CBSChicago.com senior columnist

(CBS) Donald Trump is accepting enough of murderous white supremacists, but he was quick to direct his righteous anger at a different target Monday morning: Kenneth Frazier.

Frazier is the CEO of Merck and resigned from the president’s council of manufacturing leaders in the wake of Trump’s refusal to decry specifically or disown the ideology and violence of the hate group in Charlottesville over the weekend. Frazier said “America’s leaders must honor our fundamental values” by rejecting expression of bigotry and hatred. In a statement on Merck’s Twitter account, Frazier said, “As a matter of personal conscience, I feel a responsibility to take a stand against intolerance and extremism.”

Trump then tweeted “Now that Ken Frazier of Merck Pharma has resigned from President’s Manufacturing Council,he will have more time to LOWER RIPOFF DRUG PRICES!”

See, when Trump really wants to get after someone or something, he doesn’t equivocate or delay.

Frazier’s name was last seen in this space, you may remember, in July 2012 in a column titled “Goodness Among Evil At Penn State,” in which we noted Frazier’s powerful role in ousting Joe Paterno from the school for all of the correct reasons. Even amid the rampant sickness that infects Penn State to this day, it was Frazier who was unafraid to speak truth about the horrors that were facilitated by Paterno and his football program.

“It was about these norms of society that I’m talking about: that every adult has a responsibility for every other child in our community,” Frazier, a Penn State grad and Harvard Law alum, told the New York Times in January of that year. “And that we have a responsibility not to do the minimum, the legal requirement. We have a responsibility for ensuring that we can take every effort that’s within our power not only to prevent further harm to that child, but every other child.”

Frazier chaired the internal special investigation, hired former FBI director Louis Freeh and empowered him to shine as harsh a light as needed. It was Freeh’s report that set in motion the prosecution of school officials that only reached sentencing just this past March. Frazier always understood that his help came too late.

It was Frazier who put his public face on the announcement of the findings.

“Our hearts remain heavy, and we are deeply ashamed,” he said. “We allowed the former administration to characterize to us the issues, and we failed to ask the right questions, the tough questions or to take definitive action. Put simply, we did not force the issue.”

It makes sense, then, that Ken Frazier would have the courage of conviction to act on his beliefs yet again. It should also not surprise us that our unfortunate president could not bring himself to denounce this latest vile amalgam of Nazism and the Ku Klux Klan but lashed out personally at an African-American business executive as soon as he had the chance.

LOL.. what a tool... 3/4 of the story is on PSU... he can't even report on current news. No one reads or cares about his story's so he knows he can always rile up the PSU fan base by poking Joe and get a bunch of clicks and comments to show his editor
 
LOL.. what a tool... 3/4 of the story is on PSU... he can't even report on current news. No one reads or cares about his story's so he knows he can always rile up the PSU fan base by poking Joe and get a bunch of clicks and comments to show his editor
I can't believe he made it into another story about PSU five years ago. It's almost as bad as this message board, likely worse since he gets paid to write about relevant things. Even Sara Ganim might be laughing at what a one trick pony this guy is.
 
Frazier destroyed his reputation among thinking people when he buckled like a straw house under the pressure of the Sandusky scandal.

Now, he thinks he can fool people into believing that he's redeeming himself by making an easy stand against whatever he thinks he is making a stand.

But intelligent people will realize that Ken Frazier is doing nothing except trying to destroy his reputation with a cheap stunt.

If you think Ken Frazier has any moral authority or moral compass whatsoever....that says a lot about you.
 
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I know people view him through the PSU BOT lens but what he did this week was important and it took some courage. He's a corporate CEO and a conservative of course, but certain lines have to be drawn or one day we wake up in a country that we don't recognize. Because of what Frazier did, two other CEOs followed him today.
 
I know people view him through the PSU BOT lens but what he did this week was important and it took some courage. He's a corporate CEO and a conservative of course, but certain lines have to be drawn or one day we wake up in a country that we don't recognize. Because of what Frazier did, two other CEOs followed him today.

Important? I think you mean impotent. That more accurately describes Frazier.
 
Frazier destroyed his reputation among thinking people when he buckled like a straw house under the pressure of the Sandusky scandal.

Now, he thinks he can fool people into believing that he's redeeming himself by making an easy stand against whatever he thinks he is making a stand.

But intelligent people will realize that Ken Frazier is doing nothing except trying to destroy his reputation with a cheap stunt.

If you think Ken Frazier has any moral authority or moral compass whatsoever....that says a lot about you.

Ken Frazier- August 15, 2017

“Honor our fundamental values by clearly rejecting expressions of hatred, bigotry and group supremacy”

Do you think if he said this he would have shown some consistency of thought?

“Honor our fundamental values by clearly embracing expressions of due process, honesty and integrity

Hum? Not in his make-up.
 
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