Last Penn State drive

[okinburg1]

Question CJF if you want and yes, our WRs stink, but you have the ball with just under a minute and TOs left with the score tied. I'm thinking worst case scenario PSU goes to OT with a chance to win (if they don't win in regulation). What is the one thing that CAN'T happen? Turn the ball over. What does Allar do? Throws the pick, game over. That isn't on CJF or the WRs, that's on Allar and it cost PSU the game.
Many, many other things contributed - not one hold called on Carter, King TWICE getting torched trying to cover downfield, etc, etc. However, Allar also missed Singleton in the 1st quarter and sailed multiple other throws all night. He was bad last night, anyone who says otherwise has PSU goggles on.

 

[j-buff]

I agree he didn’t have a good game and he is definitely NFL ready at this time

 

[fastlax16]

It’s awful situational awareness. Which is coaching. His team makes stupid mental mistakes, over and over. Different situations but it reminded me of the Ford touchdown against indiana. End of game scenario, only one thing you can do that truly hurts you, and you immediately go do that thing.

A short pass across the middle gains you nothing even if it’s completed it was all risk no reward.

Also, how the hell is DDS flexing on and stepping over their player (don’t remember if it was Leonard or their RB) after a big play after what happened in the OSU game? Like seriously how did they not beat the team over the head w that replay after that game?

 

[bdgan]

Question CJF if you want and yes, our WRs stink, but you have the ball with just under a minute and TOs left with the score tied. I'm thinking worst case scenario PSU goes to OT with a chance to win (if they don't win in regulation). What is the one thing that CAN'T happen? Turn the ball over. What does Allar do? Throws the pick, game over. That isn't on CJF or the WRs, that's on Allar and it cost PSU the game.
Many, many other things contributed - not one hold called on Carter, King TWICE getting torched trying to cover downfield, etc, etc. However, Allar also missed Singleton in the 1st quarter and sailed multiple other throws all night. He was bad last night, anyone who says otherwise has PSU goggles on.

I think everybody agrees that Allar had a bad night.

Singleton should be able to catch a pass at his knees. He also shouldn't have moved putting us behind the chains on the next to last drive.

Some calls didn't go our way but some did. Like Fleming not getting called for holding.

It's all on Franklin. He gets paid $8 million a year to have the players ready both physically and mentally. I understand that things happen but for whatever reason it's the other team that makes the big play and it's PSU that makes the mistake. 1-18 says it all.

 

[scrivener]

It’s awful situational awareness. Which is coaching. His team makes stupid mental mistakes, over and over. Different situations but it reminded me of the Ford touchdown against indiana. End of game scenario, only one thing you can do that truly hurts you, and you immediately go do that thing.

A short pass across the middle gains you nothing even if it’s completed it was all risk no reward.

Also, how the hell is DDS flexing on and stepping over their player (don’t remember if it was Leonard or their RB) after a big play after what happened in the OSU game? Like seriously how did they not beat the team over the head w that replay after that game?

Yep, you used the right words....stupid, mental, mistakes. We make them all the time in these games....we make them to lose games more so than the other team was just better. DDS really stepped up in the postseason but his showboating antics nonsense hurt...and as an upperclassman, that lack of discipline permeates. Zion fair catching inside the five...Nick's costly 5 yard penalty....Zane's hands to the face....we just do it ourselves all the time. We are a low IQ football team...and that is the most frustrating of all. But, I'm sure it will 'get fixed' as is indicated after every year.

The team plays like JF in a presser...look good, sounds good, but mostly hot air and fail deliver the goods in big moments.

 

[fastlax16]

Yep, you used the right words....stupid, mental, mistakes. We make them all the time in these games....we make them to lose games more so than the other team was just better. DDS really stepped up in the postseason but his showboating antics nonsense hurt...and as an upperclassman, that lack of discipline permeates. Zion fair catching inside the five...Nick's costly 5 yard penalty....Zane's hands to the face....we just do it ourselves all the time. We are a low IQ football team...and that is the most frustrating of all. But, I'm sure it will 'get fixed' as is indicated after every year.

The team plays like JF in a presser...look good, sounds good, but mostly hot air and fail deliver the goods in big moments.

This is the 2nd time in 4 games we ended the game with a pick on an unnecessary pass. Also how we lost the Rose Bowl after the 2016 season. In the 20 whatever top ten matchups under Franklin, we’ve never had an opponent make that kind of mistake….

 

[bdgan]

Yep, you used the right words....stupid, mental, mistakes. We make them all the time in these games....we make them to lose games more so than the other team was just better. DDS really stepped up in the postseason but his showboating antics nonsense hurt...and as an upperclassman, that lack of discipline permeates. Zion fair catching inside the five...Nick's costly 5 yard penalty....Zane's hands to the face....we just do it ourselves all the time. We are a low IQ football team...and that is the most frustrating of all. But, I'm sure it will 'get fixed' as is indicated after every year.

The team plays like JF in a presser...look good, sounds good, but mostly hot air and fail deliver the goods in big moments.

How many more times will we hear that 128 other teams would like to be in PSU's position?

 

[scrivener]

How many more times will we hear that 128 other teams would like to be in PSU's position?

That drives me nuts...I know some of the apologists on here agree with JF and the soft mentality that he displays in the pressers and all this empty calorie crap he says. It's the subtle deflections he does.

 

[PAgeologist]

Also, how the hell is DDS flexing on and stepping over their player (don’t remember if it was Leonard or their RB) after a big play after what happened in the OSU game? Like seriously how did they not beat the team over the head w that replay after that game?

I will tell you how. The team is taught a lack of discipline and accountability by the master of it.

 

[PSUPride1]

That drives me nuts...I know some of the apologists on here agree with JF and the soft mentality that he displays in the pressers and all this empty calorie crap he says. It's the subtle deflections he does.

Agreed. That's his way of telling the fanbase to shut the F up and don't hold me accountable for 1-18 against the top five. After we lost to Oklahoma in 85 largely due to terrible qb play - Joe indicated in his post-game presser that the passing game was not good enough and needed to be fixed. He went out and hired Caldwell to give Schaffer a more manageable short passing game attack. The fix certainly wasn't perfect but you have to acknowledge there's a problem with our passing game to fix it.
Instead they tell us the wrs are playing well and they are great blockers. That's treating the fans like morons. This passing game has major problems and it's not getting fixed. In the offseason Allar needs to work on his horrible mechanics and take meditation classes and we need to take some of our stadium renovation money and get some receivers and/or fire Hagans. Enough is enough.

 

[MacNit2.0]

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Question CJF if you want and yes, our WRs stink, but you have the ball with just under a minute and TOs left with the score tied. I'm thinking worst case scenario PSU goes to OT with a chance to win (if they don't win in regulation). What is the one thing that CAN'T happen? Turn the ball over. What does Allar do? Throws the pick, game over. That isn't on CJF or the WRs, that's on Allar and it cost PSU the game.
Many, many other things contributed - not one hold called on Carter, King TWICE getting torched trying to cover downfield, etc, etc. However, Allar also missed Singleton in the 1st quarter and sailed multiple other throws all night. He was bad last night, anyone who says otherwise has PSU goggles on.

Yep, you used the right words....stupid, mental, mistakes. We make them all the time in these games....we make them to lose games more so than the other team was just better. DDS really stepped up in the postseason but his showboating antics nonsense hurt...and as an upperclassman, that lack of discipline permeates. Zion fair catching inside the five...Nick's costly 5 yard penalty....Zane's hands to the face....we just do it ourselves all the time. We are a low IQ football team...and that is the most frustrating of all. But, I'm sure it will 'get fixed' as is indicated after every year.

The team plays like JF in a presser...look good, sounds good, but mostly hot air and fail deliver the goods in big moments.

Totally spot on. Mental (and physical) toughness/playing smart was once out calling card.

We are a full 180 degrees out of phase.

 

[scrivener]

Agreed. That's his way of telling the fanbase to shut the F up and don't hold me accountable for 1-18 against the top five. After we lost to Oklahoma in 85 largely due to terrible qb play - Joe indicated in his post-game presser that the passing game was not good enough and needed to be fixed. He went out and hired Caldwell to give Schaffer a more manageable short passing game attack. The fix certainly wasn't perfect but you have to acknowledge there's a problem with our passing game to fix it.
Instead they tell us the wrs are playing well and they are great blockers. That's treating the fans like morons. This passing game has major problems and it's not getting fixed. In the offseason Allar needs to work on his horrible mechanics and take meditation classes and we need to take some of our stadium renovation money and get some receivers and/or fire Hagans. Enough is enough.

100% well said...JF always deflects like when he says things like "fans expect winning here and we embrace that." Something to effect. It makes it seem like well even though we might not feel that strongly as the fans, we will respect the fans perspective and go with it. His lack of piss and vinegar to just say enough is enough and how this is not what PSU should be, annual frauds, really is off-putting. So much of this is optics -- how you look on the field, style of play, and how you comport yourself after losses. And, we don't look good in general when the rubber meets the road.

 

[Jerry]

Agreed. That's his way of telling the fanbase to shut the F up and don't hold me accountable for 1-18 against the top five. After we lost to Oklahoma in 85 largely due to terrible qb play - Joe indicated in his post-game presser that the passing game was not good enough and needed to be fixed. He went out and hired Caldwell to give Schaffer a more manageable short passing game attack. The fix certainly wasn't perfect but you have to acknowledge there's a problem with our passing game to fix it.
Instead they tell us the wrs are playing well and they are great blockers. That's treating the fans like morons. This passing game has major problems and it's not getting fixed. In the offseason Allar needs to work on his horrible mechanics and take meditation classes and we need to take some of our stadium renovation money and get some receivers and/or fire Hagans. Enough is enough.

Meditation classes. Haha! Hey how can it hurt.

But seriously, everyone knows we've got a WR problem. But some of the handling of it is mystifying.

I mean, Julian Fleming arrived with high hopes. A 5-star kid with proven talent. He made two crucial 4th-down catches that may well have saved our season against USC. He had a horrible drop against...I don't know, I think Wisconsin the week after...and then he just disappeared from the radar screen. They said he's a good blocker. Please.

Or take KLS the year before. Our leading receiver who late in the year does a complete disappearing act. They stop throwing to him. I'm sure there must have been a reason but damn. Then he goes to Auburn and has almost 1000 receiving yards this year against SEC competition.

Like I said, it's mystifying.

 

[KnightWhoSaysNit]

I predicted that we would lose on a mental mistake and that is exactly what happened. Halfway through the game there was some hope that I had been wrong. Unfortunately, no.

Franklin doesn't coach the mental part of the game. Period. You would not see what we see on the field if he did.

It's unacceptable.

 

[JoeLion]

Going into this game I thought the teams were fairly evenly matched except I felt PSU had the advantage at QB. When Leonard threw his first pick I was even more convinced, thinking get him in 3rd and long and he will turn it over. Unfortunately Allar has a terrible game and that plot reversed itself resulting in the last interception and the lost opportunity to move on.

 

[bvillebaron]

It’s awful situational awareness. Which is coaching. His team makes stupid mental mistakes, over and over. Different situations but it reminded me of the Ford touchdown against indiana. End of game scenario, only one thing you can do that truly hurts you, and you immediately go do that thing.

A short pass across the middle gains you nothing even if it’s completed it was all risk no reward.

Also, how the hell is DDS flexing on and stepping over their player (don’t remember if it was Leonard or their RB) after a big play after what happened in the OSU game? Like seriously how did they not beat the team over the head w that replay after that game?

Can I remind you that Ford conceded he was told not to score on that play afterwards? You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink. As far as your situational awareness claim, Allar admitted afterwards he should have thrown the ball away. I will give you whatever odds you want that this was something he had been coached to do and didn’t in the heat of battle.

 

[fastlax16]

Can I remind you that Ford conceded he was told not to score on that play afterwards? You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink. As far as your situational awareness claim, Allar admitted afterwards he should have thrown the ball away. I will give you whatever odds you want that this was something he had been coached to do and didn’t in the heat of battle.

Well clearly however Ford was told it didn't resonate or stick, or he's just not that smart.

Admitting you made a mistake after the fact isn't situational awareness. Most people can see what they did wrong in retrospect unless you're a complete narcissist. What did he say about the pick that iced the Big Ten Championship game a month ago?

Franklin also said they'd clean up/address the conduct after the Personal Foul/Taunting Penalty which ultimately gave the Buckeyes 7 points earlier this year. How the F do you have DDS flexing and stepping over there guy in that situation during the f*ing playoffs unless you failed miserably to drive the point home after it bit you in the ass earlier in the season? Lucky it wasn't a 15 yarder.

Or we just have a bunch of really dumb players.

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

Question CJF if you want and yes, our WRs stink, but you have the ball with just under a minute and TOs left with the score tied. I'm thinking worst case scenario PSU goes to OT with a chance to win (if they don't win in regulation). What is the one thing that CAN'T happen? Turn the ball over. What does Allar do? Throws the pick, game over. That isn't on CJF or the WRs, that's on Allar and it cost PSU the game.
Many, many other things contributed - not one hold called on Carter, King TWICE getting torched trying to cover downfield, etc, etc. However, Allar also missed Singleton in the 1st quarter and sailed multiple other throws all night. He was bad last night, anyone who says otherwise has PSU goggles on.

He also missed a wide-open Warren on a wheel route down sideline in 1st Half. He missed a ton of wide-open receivers in first half (he threw a pass behind and at his knees on the Singleton wide-open walk-in TD). But a couple other things about the last possession, Singleton ran for 13 yards and a 1st Down on the first play - the OL played great all night long... - on the second play of the drive (a 1st Down play!), Allar held the ball way too long first of all, secondly, he has nothing but green to his right... could have run OR if he wanted to throw it away, all he had to do was run a few yards to his right and throw it away.... but what does he do?.... sits there and pats the ball... pats it again.... gets happy feet.... then makes just an awful decision throwing late over the middle! (again, if he was trying to throw it away, he made a horrid decision in how he did it - he could have easily scrambled to right and thrown it OB or just run to his right, get as much as he could and go OB... they also still had two TOs.

Allar needs to dedicate himself to making faster, more decisive decisions - too often he hangs onto the ball too long and delays his decision making too long resulting in poor footwork or a sack or.... - on that last play, nothing wrong with him wanting to extend the play, but he should have been on the move to his right away from pressure...

 

[Westcoast24]

Do you guys know why on the final field goal by ND that they didn’t go all out and try and block it. Instead they had two guys playing 10 yards back like they were worried about a fake field goal. Didn’t make sense to me.