Let kids come back to school if not drafted
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I said all along it was bad decision for Barnes to come out....I heard he got some bad advice from Larry Johnson. Not sure if that is true but I could see LJ doing that now that he is with O$U.
However, the coaching staff has already made adjustments for the loss of that player. They may have also promised his scholly to someone else. That's the downside. A player's decision to leave early effects more than just him.
Yeah, I think once you decide you don't want to be in college or play college football, you should be prepared for the consequences - both good and bad.
For some kids, it works out great, for some it does not. You take your chances and deal with the consequences. But, once you are gone - you are gone.
For some kids, it works out great, for some it does not. You take your chances and deal with the consequences. But, once you are gone - you are gone.
How are you going to get around the part of being ineligible because they signed with an agent?
What if they get drafted in the 7th round (which is probably worse than having the flexibility of an UDFA)? How about the 6th? How about late 3rd? What if they are the 15th overall pick, but had expected to go "top 10"?
College baseball allows players who are drafted to return to their college team. I remember in 2012 the Pirates drafted Mark Appel, a junior pitcher from Stanford, with the 7th or 8th pick. He didn't sign with the Pirates, went back to Stanford for his senior year and was drafted #1 in the next year's draft. I'm not sure of the NCAA rules, but they certainly make it work for baseball - they can do it for football, too.
essentially you'd have every D1 player eligible for the draft each year.... if you can't see a downside to this (schollies, agents, graduation rates etc) you are a blithering idiot
It's an interesting proposal rutgersal, but might be difficult, because the coaches move on and offer scholarships to others to fill out their team. Plus, spring practice is very important to the team. Missing it is a big setback for a team, that has limited practice time available, to get players to gel together.
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Of course players who don't have their degree can come back to school and should come back to school.
They take out a loan and finish their college education, like millions of other students.
iirc, Deion Barnes at least has his college degree. Expect he might try to get on a team as a free agent. If not, perhaps he can try Canada or Europe, to continue his career in football. Too bad if he got bad advice to give up his final year of eligibility and comes up empty.
Actually, while I would not be "for" such a proposal....it wouldn't be hard to implement.
You still have the "eligibility rules" (ie 3 years post high school, which - BTW - is essentially the same scenario you have in the baseball draft). Just as in Baseball, if a kid doesn't sign, the selecting team would get an equivalent "compensation pick" the following year.....so, let's say you draft Joe Blow in round 5, and he decides to not sign and stay in school....the selecting team gets a compensatory 5th round pick the following year.
The number of kids who were drafted, but choose not to sign, would likely be no more than a handful per year. And the few - if any - that would be affected would almost certainly be guys selected in the very late rounds.
And it wouldn't be hard to implement at all.
If anything, it would have a positive impact on graduation rates (though I think the impact would be minimal).
Perhaps a compromise could be that players who declare early and are undrafted are no longer NCAA eligible, but may return to their school on scholarship for the remainder of their five years or until they get their degree, with these scholarships being similar to medical hardship waivers so they don't count against the 85? That would balance the program's desire to move on and offer scholarships to replace the athlete with the desire to allow as many athletes as possible to get meaningful degrees - even if they make a bad decision to declare for the draft.
I like the idea in theory but you can't just flood the NFL draft pool by potentially hundreds more players. That's more time consuming for all involved for no good reason if we're talking players that are a real longshot.
I would narrow the criteria for players undrafted and eligible to return to those that have not earned their degree and are 3 years removed from high school. If you've already graduated and have eligibility left, at least you have your degree, and you can always bust your tail as a free agent. The concern should be with players that received bad advice and would essentially be hung out to dry with no degree to fall back on.
I love you RutgersAl but that would be a failure on so many levels it's impossible to even list them all. It's actually a very scary idea.
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Why should Barnes come back? He has his degree. AND another year of College football was NOT going to make him any better. Now if he planned on getting a Master's? Maybe then it would make sense. I do agree there "could" be some provision to return IF is was to continue your education.
There is no act to declare for the MLB Draft; college juniors are automatically eligible. Additonally given the timing it has no impact on recruiting/scholarship allocation.
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