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Lets just win this f#cking conference and go to the Rose Bowl

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I've been saying this for the last 10+ years...the big 10, 12 whatever you want to call it, doesn't give a shit about anyone other than UM and OSU. It's time to go!

For Penn State to succeed, just win !!!!!
 
I'm with you on this, play Wisconsin like they played Iowa ,with attitude, go to the Rose.
If and i say if they lose to Wisconsin , decline the Cotton and take the better weather bowl Cap 1 , don't play into the no win situation of playing W. MIch.
 
I'm with you as well I think. Win the Big Ten trophy and put in the Paterno statues arms outside the stadium for a bird bath. I just keep thinking of our three freshman OL starters looking across the line at Alabama with 4 and 5 star Defensive lineman practically three deep and imagine the result. Although part of me says this is how miracles come about in sports I feel we would need one to keep up. USC would be a huge challenge as they seem to have woken up from the Sarkesian drunken slumber and remembered they have great athletes on the field. We should have beaten Pitt then there would be no arguments at all.
 
Nothing wrong with the Big10 conference. It has the best football teams in the country in the Big 10 East, and we are the Champions! Where else could we rule over teams like Michigan and Ohio State. We beat the best - the trophy is ours.
 
And then come into next year ready to tear some shit up.
No. Anybody that plays any sport, plays to win. I doubt there is a single player on PSU that if they WIN the conference championship won't be disappointed and mad as hell if they don't get a shot at the big prize. That is especially true if Ohio State gets a shot. Competition and winning is what it's all about. Participation trophies, even ones as nice as the Rose bowl, are still just that.

The playoff should only have the 4 best conference WINNERS. If you can't win your conference you should not be playing for the title.
 
No. Anybody that plays any sport, plays to win. I doubt there is a single player on PSU that if they WIN the conference championship won't be disappointed and mad as hell if they don't get a shot at the big prize. That is especially true if Ohio State gets a shot. Competition and winning is what it's all about. Participation trophies, even ones as nice as the Rose bowl, are still just that.

The playoff should only have the 4 best conference WINNERS. If you can't win your conference you should not be playing for the title.
No, no no, no, no never. We play to win and we make the biggest Stink in the world if we don't get in. If we want a championship team we need to have a championship mindset which means never saying it's alright to accept the consolation prize. Basic winning 101.
 
Lets just hope Jimmy plays a good game and gets a trophy honey. HELL NAH to the NAH NAH NAH
 
What Judge said!!!

First, I believe that the championship game with Wisconsin will be hard fought and close. Regardless, the fix is in and even if we stomp the Badgers, we're not making the "4" and if they whip up on us, likely they won't either! The only thing under our control is our quality of play, so let's take care of business on Saturday and let the chips fall where they may. I hear Southern California is beautiful this time of year.
 
What I wonder about is why the CFP people opened their mouth about this now. Why not wait....??? had to prepare the world for their raining @zzshizzle storm next week.
 
It doesn't matter what they do, the storm's a comin'. Y'all better take cover!
 
What Judge said!!!

First, I believe that the championship game with Wisconsin will be hard fought and close. Regardless, the fix is in and even if we stomp the Badgers, we're not making the "4" and if they whip up on us, likely they won't either! The only thing under our control is our quality of play, so let's take care of business on Saturday and let the chips fall where they may. I hear Southern California is beautiful this time of year.


Absolutely. This is a key game. Winner likely goes to the Rose Bowl to play Colorado or USC. Loser appears to be slotted for the Cotton Bowl against Western Michigan (from most bowl predictions). Rose Bowl sounds much better. ;)
 
Sorry judge, but I disagree with that. I expect to play in the playoff's (provided we beat Wisc). And I hope every team in the nation hopes to play in the playoff's and not some consolation prize bowl game. We worked really hard to get where we are. We deserve to fight for a chance to play in the playoff's. What guarantee's do we have that we will reach here next season. No one can predict the future. But what we can do is deal with the present. Beat Wisc and fight hard (whatever outside source it maybe) to make it to the playoff's. We derserve it and the kids sure as hell deserve it! If that means we have to play a team like Bama in the first round....... then so be it!
 
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Really Rose bowl. ya lets just go to a meangless bowl game when we can go to playoffs and potential national championship....could be only year PSU does get to playoff for a long time. I m sure the PSU players feel same way as u do..
F a bowl game
 
Really Rose bowl. ya lets just go to a meangless bowl game when we can go to playoffs and potential national championship....could be only year PSU does get to playoff for a long time. I m sure the PSU players feel same way as u do..
F a bowl game

They've made it crystal clear that they would take the third place B1G East team who has lost 2 of their last 3 over the conference champ. Control what you can control. All the bitching in the world isn't going to change things. Take the high road, get public sentiment on our side and against the aholes on that committee.

Then come out and blast everyone next year. 12-0, leave no room for doubt.
 
Exactly. Let's destroy the PAC 10 opponent get ready for next year with great momentum. I do not want to be embarrassed against Alabama and that's what would happen right now unfortunately.

  • Penn state 24 Wisconsin 10 then 11-2
  • Penn state 30 Pac10 opp. 13 then 12-2 #4 in country
  • Recruiting trending upwards and look out 2017!
Or
  • Alabama 43 Penn State 17 then 11-3 and I am being kind on the outcome
We aren't ready for Alabama...would love to play Clemson or even OSU again, we aren't not ready for Alabama...
 
Sorry judge, but I disagree with that. I expect to play in the playoff's (provided we beat Wisc). And I hope every team in the nation hopes to play in the playoff's and not some consolation prize bowl game. We worked really hard to get where we are. We deserve to fight for a chance to play in the playoff's. What guarantee's do we have that we will reach here next season. No one can predict the future. But what we can do is deal with the present. Beat Wisc and fight hard (whatever outside source it maybe) to make it to the playoff's. We derserve it and the kids sure as hell deserve it! If that means we have to play a team like Bama in the first round....... then so be it!
Yes, I agree to beat Wisc and fight to get in CFP this year. Chance is very hard to come by to get a CFP berth. Think about the b1g refs can trip us at any game and any time.
 
Exactly. Let's destroy the PAC 10 opponent get ready for next year with great momentum. I do not want to be embarrassed against Alabama and that's what would happen right now unfortunately.

  • Penn state 24 Wisconsin 10 then 11-2
  • Penn state 30 Pac10 opp. 13 then 12-2 #4 in country
  • Recruiting trending upwards and look out 2017!
Or
  • Alabama 43 Penn State 17 then 11-3 and I am being kind on the outcome
We aren't ready for Alabama...would love to play Clemson or even OSU again, we aren't not ready for Alabama...

Yup, 8 of our top 13 OL are frosh right now. Take the recruiting bump, finish the 2017 class strong. We'll be a preseason Top 10 with 18 starters returning. Use that to put together a Top 5 recruiting class for 2018.

As JF said, this is only the beginning. Positive, positive, positive.

MSU was blasted in the CFP last year. That help them this year?
 
Yes, I agree to beat Wisc and fight to get in CFP this year. Chance is very hard to come by to get a CFP berth. Think about the b1g refs can trip us at any game and any time.

And what exactly do we "do" to make that happen? Have our HC throw a fit? What will that accomplish?
 
The Big Ten. The only conference where the 3rd place team wins.

Whatever. Let's wear the black hats with pride. And next year, let's never ever take our foot off the gas.
 
The only thing PSU can do is win Saturday night as it doesn't matter what is said today. Even if PSU wins Saturday night, they have to count on a CU or VT win for it to even matter. People are up in arms over PSU as the media is making it about PSU, but if Wisky wins....it never mattered.
 
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Further, if and when this happens...we win the Rose in impressive fashion, lot of egg on the pundits and selection committee faces. Sometimes that needs to happen..unfortunately more today then ever.
 
And then come into next year ready to tear some shit up.
I agree as well. Let's go into 2017 in the top 10 coming off a huge bowl victory. We are not ready for Bama this year but with a year of experience overall and health/depth on the OL we can beat in 2017.
 
First and foremost, yes, we have to beat Wisc. Lets get passed that.

I find it funny that you guys wouldn't mind settling for a rose Bowl bid as if we were guaranteed to win that Bowl. And can you guys guarantee that we will go 12-0 next year? No, you cant. Lets fight for what we have going on for us right now. Yes, we have to beat Wisc first. But I don't want to "settle" for a rose bowl and hope to god we make it next season. Like I said, what if we lose the rose bowl? I would take losing in a playoff game more than losing in a rose bowl.
 
First and foremost, yes, we have to beat Wisc. Lets get passed that.

I find it funny that you guys wouldn't mind settling for a rose Bowl bid as if we were guaranteed to win that Bowl. And can you guys guarantee that we will go 12-0 next year? No, you cant. Lets fight for what we have going on for us right now. Yes, we have to beat Wisc first. But I don't want to "settle" for a rose bowl and hope to god we make it next season. Like I said, what if we lose the rose bowl? I would take losing in a playoff game more than losing in a rose bowl.

Exactly...and if we draw USC???? They're the second hottest team in the country (next to us). You play to win, and yes this all moot if we lose, but you know what Urbie would be thinking right now..... Crush Wisky and make them put us in. If Franklin is who I think he is, he's thinking the same thing.
 
First and foremost, yes, we have to beat Wisc. Lets get passed that.

I find it funny that you guys wouldn't mind settling for a rose Bowl bid as if we were guaranteed to win that Bowl. And can you guys guarantee that we will go 12-0 next year? No, you cant. Lets fight for what we have going on for us right now. Yes, we have to beat Wisc first. But I don't want to "settle" for a rose bowl and hope to god we make it next season. Like I said, what if we lose the rose bowl? I would take losing in a playoff game more than losing in a rose bowl.

So what is your plan to get us into the CFP?
 
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This isn't a good look.

This whole season has been a giant positive. It's a building block. Penn State is the SECOND YOUNGEST TEAM IN THE NCAA and look what they have done. We are on the verge of putting together another run like in the 1980s. Or as others have said, this is 1993 when Kerry and KiJana set the stage for a monster 1994. Recruiting, momentum, positive vibes. Control what you can control, which is your mindset.
 
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Given our o-line injuries, I'm not super passionate that we belong in the top 4 right now. Barkley hasn't been able to get anything going yet since we lost Palmer and had to re-shuffle the pieces.

This Saturday is my Super Bowl.

Just find a way to beat Wisconsin and I can go into this offseason with absolutely zero regrets about anything else that happens.
 
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I do hate this freakin conference and would love to be able to just jump ship. But as long as we keep doing it the right way, let em snub us, we know better. Damn shame to keep making 100+ kids continue to pay for perceived ills of the past.
 
I should just stop--there's no use fighting Judge nation just like there's no use fighting city hall :rolleyes:. But you have to admit we have a real shot at the playoff this year with a convincing win over Wisconsin. In our division, we should maximize every opportunity we have. They are and will continue to be truly rare.
 
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