I always thought he looks more like Roger Ebert...
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Yep. Looks like Woody Allen too.
Lou Anna Simon to be prosecuted for lying to police about knowledge of MSU pedophile Larry Nassar
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Yep. Looks like Woody Allen too.
He has his head stuck in the sand and his ass bared for all to see. It is his better side.
Forced at gunpoint I think I'd rather be with Woody Allen. And I'm heterosexual.Yep. Looks like Woody Allen too.
To be fair, yet again, the difference has nothing to do with Delany and the Big Ten (nor Emmert and the NCAA) but with the fact that PSU leadership bent over and said "have your way with us". If any other school would roll over and essentially ask for penalties, it too would suffer them. But no school would be stupid enough to do so.
It's not an agenda by the Big Ten.
(Not saying it wasn't wrong, of course)
No. There is no excuse for the silence on osu and especially msu. It's inconceivable that there has been two sexual assault cover-up scandals this large and not one word from conference or NCAA leadership about it.
When you compare it to what happened to PSU it makes it even worse, but even without us, it's scary to wonder what's really going on when they can't even put out a paragraph on a Friday condemning the behavior. It's almost as if what happened was not against any conference or NCAA rules.
I got a theory but no one wants to hear it, nor gives a shit
I believe the Big 10 is largely quiet on MSU because the media firestorm is a fraction of what it was for PSU. The media was everywhere and the conference had little choice but to respond. The media reaction to Nassar hasn't been as crazy, especially not with respect to MSU. It's been more centered on USA gymnastics instead. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but it's probably why Delaney, the conference, and other schools haven't said a peep. They aren't going to unless they are more or less backed into a corner and forced to by the media.
Family members of people on the 2011 PSU BoT were involved with the operations of the 2nd Mile and would have been exposed if the true culprits in this scandal were punished. Thus, the BoT used PSU money to shield the 2nd Mile and to settle scores with Joe. They used house money to burn down the house.
Because we were the first. If this was the first, I think the media coverage would be a bit different.
Of course they did. I don't deny what the Big Ten did was wrong by ignoring other schools - ones that actually deserved potential punishment. I'm just pointing out the reason isn't because the Big Ten hates PSU or anything, but because the "leadership" at PSU basically asked for various outside agencies to punish them.
MSU and tOSU defended themselves. The Big Ten wouldn't go after a school that is actually going to fight them.
Again, I'm not suggesting the Big Ten's or NCAA's actions are right or moral. I'm just pointing out the ultimate cause for anything that happened to PSU starts and stops with the BoTs and their actions. If they actually defended the school as they should - especially given that school officials didn't even do anything wrong - then no outside group would have done crap.
Just remember all those conversations with aquaintences who suddenly saw Paterno as devil, protection for children as top NCAA priority, and demanded PSU football get disbanded..now it is crickets about Nassar or Ohio state wrestling. They have no idea what you are talking about..but they really cared about the children in 2011.
Honestly, I think it had to do with the complete absurdity of the allegations itself at PSU. In MSU’s case you had a doctor abusing his power by sexually touching young women under the guise of medical treatment . There was some plausible deniability here, whether the MSU leaders really knew something inappropriate was going on or not. Sometimes, by nature of their jobs, doctors really do need to touch patients in places that would be considered assault in other cases.
In the Sandusky allegations, you had a guy who supposedly was raping boys relatively out in the open in a place frequented by hyper masculine football players and coaches. It made absolutely no sense that something like this could continue for years, let alone decades. I think our BOT had no idea how that could have continued and that someone HAD to have “led a cover up”. They trusted the OAGs narrative too much to consider what really happened !
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Elbert? Looks more like shit!I always thought he looks more like Roger Ebert...
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Actually, the Big Ten did issue a statement.
In January.
Of 2019.
Big Ten to 'closely monitor' investigations into Michigan State
By Matt Wenzel | mwenzel2@mlive.com | Jan 26, 2018
EAST LANSING - In the span of two days, Michigan State president Lou Anna K. Simon and athletic director Mark Hollis both announced they were retiring.
Their resignations - Simon's on Wednesday and Hollis' on Friday morning - come as the university is embroiled in controversy amid the scandal involving former sports medicine doctor Larry Nassar. They also followed the NCAA's announcement Tuesday that it was investigating the university for how it handled Nassar, who was sentenced Wednesday to 40 to 175 years in prison for sexual assault.
Additionally, ESPN on Friday - a few hours after Hollis had a press conference - published a report questioning how the university has handled complaints of sexual assault, violence and gender discrimination.
The Big Ten on Friday, in response to a request for comment, released a statement expressing sympathy for the victims and saying it would monitor the investigations before determining if further action would be taken.
"First and foremost our hearts go out to each and every person whose life has been so negatively impacted by this matter, most importantly the young victims and their families," the statement reads.
"There are several investigations and inquiries at Michigan State University either currently underway, or recently announced, including those by the U.S. Congress, the U.S. Department of Education, the State Attorney General's Office and the NCAA.
"The Conference will continue to closely monitor each of the investigations, along with the numerous law suits filed against Michigan State University before drawing any conclusions as to whether there is further action required."
In January.
Of 2019.
Big Ten to 'closely monitor' investigations into Michigan State
By Matt Wenzel | mwenzel2@mlive.com | Jan 26, 2018
EAST LANSING - In the span of two days, Michigan State president Lou Anna K. Simon and athletic director Mark Hollis both announced they were retiring.
Their resignations - Simon's on Wednesday and Hollis' on Friday morning - come as the university is embroiled in controversy amid the scandal involving former sports medicine doctor Larry Nassar. They also followed the NCAA's announcement Tuesday that it was investigating the university for how it handled Nassar, who was sentenced Wednesday to 40 to 175 years in prison for sexual assault.
Additionally, ESPN on Friday - a few hours after Hollis had a press conference - published a report questioning how the university has handled complaints of sexual assault, violence and gender discrimination.
The Big Ten on Friday, in response to a request for comment, released a statement expressing sympathy for the victims and saying it would monitor the investigations before determining if further action would be taken.
"First and foremost our hearts go out to each and every person whose life has been so negatively impacted by this matter, most importantly the young victims and their families," the statement reads.
"There are several investigations and inquiries at Michigan State University either currently underway, or recently announced, including those by the U.S. Congress, the U.S. Department of Education, the State Attorney General's Office and the NCAA.
"The Conference will continue to closely monitor each of the investigations, along with the numerous law suits filed against Michigan State University before drawing any conclusions as to whether there is further action required."
This reporter got a lot of quotes out of Jim Delany while he was vacationing in Peru. He really goes to bat for Mark Dantonio and Tom Izzo.
Eight years of Big Ten scandals paint unflattering picture, but connecting dots may be unfair
Eight years of Big Ten scandals paint unflattering picture, but connecting dots may be unfair
Article from last summer by a real POS (hint: he's friends with John O'Neill), so I won't link the article nor provide the author's name, but he goes after Delany for his silence on MSU and OSU.
In Latest Big Ten Scandal, Where's Delany?
Jim Delany has been silent as his conference has encountered two ugly scandals.
It was in 2012 that Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany made a telling comment regarding the scandal at Penn State involving the handling by high-level university personnel, including football coach Joe Paterno, of sexual assaults of several children by former Nittany Lion assistant coach Jerry Sandusky.
"This case is unique in the sense that I think it involved people with senior executive and management responsibilities," Delany said.
Since Delany spoke those words, there have been sexual assault scandals involving people with senior executive and management responsibilities at Michigan State and Ohio State. The former was sports physician Larry Nassar’s serial sexual assaults of at least 332 athletes while working at Michigan State and with U.S. Olympians. Complaints about Nassar were known by at least 14 Michigan State representatives while he worked there without appropriate action being taken. In light of the Nassar criminal trial, an ESPN Outside the Lines investigation "found a pattern of widespread denial, inaction and information suppression of such allegations (of sexual assault) by officials ranging from campus police to the Spartan athletic department," including the basketball and football teams.
The latter scandal is the ongoing investigation into claims by former Buckeye wrestlers that team doctor Richard Strauss, who died in 2005, assaulted them and students from 14 Ohio State sports and the Student Health Services in Strauss’ time at the school from the 1970s to 1990s. He may have assaulted high school students as well. The wrestlers have included current U.S. congressman Jim Jordan among those who knew of Strauss’ behavior while Jordan was a coach at Ohio State. The Republican representative from Ohio’s 4th District, Jordan denies he was aware of any misconduct by Strauss.
Yet since that "unique" case at Penn State, Delany hasn’t been very visible during the two recent cases. In January, the Big Ten released a statement saying it would "closely monitor" the Michigan State situation only after receiving a request for comment on Nassar being found guilty of multiple sex crimes, multiple school administration resigning and the ESPN report. But there has been nothing specifically from Delany regarding the situation. He has yet to speak publicly on the Ohio State investigation either.
One would think the commissioner would have a responsibility to comment on two scandals involving his conference’s schools that are reverberating nationally, even if it’s just the requisite boilerplate "monitoring" and "concern." But Delany has been noticeably silent regarding both Michigan State and Ohio State.
"We're trying to protect institutional values," Delany said in 2012 after the Penn State sanctions were issued, "that the cult of success in sports doesn't overwhelm institutions' need to make sure that intercollegiate athletics is subordinate to the mandate and initiative of higher education at each one of our campuses."
But two more times in the same decade that protection seems to have failed massively by failing to protect people from alleged sexual predators. It's has happened in the same athletic conference, Delany’s conference. That demands some sort of update from the commissioner at the least.
Yet ... nothing so far
Jordan’s name being involved and President Donald Trump vocally supporting him has brought more media attention to the Ohio State story, but Delany has been aware of allegations against Strauss for months. In April, an unnamed former Ohio State athlete said that he was asked by a coach in 1997 to testify in a hearing against Strauss but was too embarrassed to do so. Strauss then left the university sometime after that supposed hearing.
But if Delany hasn’t yet commented on Michigan State recognizing that Nassar assaulted hundreds of people, it’s doubtful he’s going to speak on an ongoing investigation of the third serial assault scandal during his tenure, which began in 1989. And that’s disappointing.
Like any sports commissioner, Delany’s ultimate job is to do what’s in the best interests of the conference/league, which usually means what turns a profit or at least minimizes loss, be it in dollars or public relations. He has been integral in establishing the Big Ten Network, the Bowl Championship Series and expanding the conference. But a third school in it is going to be made to pay many millions of dollars because of internal culpabilities. Michigan State has agreed to pay Nassar’s victims $500 million. Penn State had to pay Sandusky’s victims $109 million. When the investigation into Ohio State is completed, the school presumably will be writing checks somewhere between those numbers. Former Ohio State wrestler Mike DiSabato has said that he believes Strauss’s victims number above 1,000.
"The only thing that matters to me is I think the NCAA did have moral authority to act, and I think the Big Ten had moral authority to act," Delany said in 2012 of Penn State’s punishments.
The Big Ten penalized Penn State only after the NCAA did, and it was the Big Ten Council of Presidents and Chancellors that released a statement on the matter, not Delany, as was the case when Penn State was being investigated by the Big Ten.
What about a moral authority to just say something about Michigan State and Ohio State? To let us know you’re there and care.
In 2017, on the five-year anniversary of the Penn State sanctions, Delany didn’t mention the victims of Sandusky but did express sympathy for those at Penn State who got in trouble.
"Certainly we had friends who were held to account by the court of Pennsylvania," he said. "It’s been a difficult, difficult road for the department, for the friends and for the Paterno family."
Delany added, "In totality, it’s been the most difficult set of circumstances I’ve ever been asked to participate in."
So what then of the Michigan State and Ohio State circumstances? The Big Ten’s media days as the unofficial kickoff of the college football season are July 23-24. Perhaps that’s what Delany is waiting for to speak on all this, months later for each.
Or maybe he’s using some of the $20-million bonus he received on an extended vacation that has prevented him from reaching anyone to speak on two horrific sexual assault scandals since the initial horrific scandal he was forced to speak on five years ago. The one tha's no longer "unique" to his conference.
In Latest Big Ten Scandal, Where's Delany?
Jim Delany has been silent as his conference has encountered two ugly scandals.
It was in 2012 that Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany made a telling comment regarding the scandal at Penn State involving the handling by high-level university personnel, including football coach Joe Paterno, of sexual assaults of several children by former Nittany Lion assistant coach Jerry Sandusky.
"This case is unique in the sense that I think it involved people with senior executive and management responsibilities," Delany said.
Since Delany spoke those words, there have been sexual assault scandals involving people with senior executive and management responsibilities at Michigan State and Ohio State. The former was sports physician Larry Nassar’s serial sexual assaults of at least 332 athletes while working at Michigan State and with U.S. Olympians. Complaints about Nassar were known by at least 14 Michigan State representatives while he worked there without appropriate action being taken. In light of the Nassar criminal trial, an ESPN Outside the Lines investigation "found a pattern of widespread denial, inaction and information suppression of such allegations (of sexual assault) by officials ranging from campus police to the Spartan athletic department," including the basketball and football teams.
The latter scandal is the ongoing investigation into claims by former Buckeye wrestlers that team doctor Richard Strauss, who died in 2005, assaulted them and students from 14 Ohio State sports and the Student Health Services in Strauss’ time at the school from the 1970s to 1990s. He may have assaulted high school students as well. The wrestlers have included current U.S. congressman Jim Jordan among those who knew of Strauss’ behavior while Jordan was a coach at Ohio State. The Republican representative from Ohio’s 4th District, Jordan denies he was aware of any misconduct by Strauss.
Yet since that "unique" case at Penn State, Delany hasn’t been very visible during the two recent cases. In January, the Big Ten released a statement saying it would "closely monitor" the Michigan State situation only after receiving a request for comment on Nassar being found guilty of multiple sex crimes, multiple school administration resigning and the ESPN report. But there has been nothing specifically from Delany regarding the situation. He has yet to speak publicly on the Ohio State investigation either.
One would think the commissioner would have a responsibility to comment on two scandals involving his conference’s schools that are reverberating nationally, even if it’s just the requisite boilerplate "monitoring" and "concern." But Delany has been noticeably silent regarding both Michigan State and Ohio State.
"We're trying to protect institutional values," Delany said in 2012 after the Penn State sanctions were issued, "that the cult of success in sports doesn't overwhelm institutions' need to make sure that intercollegiate athletics is subordinate to the mandate and initiative of higher education at each one of our campuses."
But two more times in the same decade that protection seems to have failed massively by failing to protect people from alleged sexual predators. It's has happened in the same athletic conference, Delany’s conference. That demands some sort of update from the commissioner at the least.
Yet ... nothing so far
Jordan’s name being involved and President Donald Trump vocally supporting him has brought more media attention to the Ohio State story, but Delany has been aware of allegations against Strauss for months. In April, an unnamed former Ohio State athlete said that he was asked by a coach in 1997 to testify in a hearing against Strauss but was too embarrassed to do so. Strauss then left the university sometime after that supposed hearing.
But if Delany hasn’t yet commented on Michigan State recognizing that Nassar assaulted hundreds of people, it’s doubtful he’s going to speak on an ongoing investigation of the third serial assault scandal during his tenure, which began in 1989. And that’s disappointing.
Like any sports commissioner, Delany’s ultimate job is to do what’s in the best interests of the conference/league, which usually means what turns a profit or at least minimizes loss, be it in dollars or public relations. He has been integral in establishing the Big Ten Network, the Bowl Championship Series and expanding the conference. But a third school in it is going to be made to pay many millions of dollars because of internal culpabilities. Michigan State has agreed to pay Nassar’s victims $500 million. Penn State had to pay Sandusky’s victims $109 million. When the investigation into Ohio State is completed, the school presumably will be writing checks somewhere between those numbers. Former Ohio State wrestler Mike DiSabato has said that he believes Strauss’s victims number above 1,000.
"The only thing that matters to me is I think the NCAA did have moral authority to act, and I think the Big Ten had moral authority to act," Delany said in 2012 of Penn State’s punishments.
The Big Ten penalized Penn State only after the NCAA did, and it was the Big Ten Council of Presidents and Chancellors that released a statement on the matter, not Delany, as was the case when Penn State was being investigated by the Big Ten.
What about a moral authority to just say something about Michigan State and Ohio State? To let us know you’re there and care.
In 2017, on the five-year anniversary of the Penn State sanctions, Delany didn’t mention the victims of Sandusky but did express sympathy for those at Penn State who got in trouble.
"Certainly we had friends who were held to account by the court of Pennsylvania," he said. "It’s been a difficult, difficult road for the department, for the friends and for the Paterno family."
Delany added, "In totality, it’s been the most difficult set of circumstances I’ve ever been asked to participate in."
So what then of the Michigan State and Ohio State circumstances? The Big Ten’s media days as the unofficial kickoff of the college football season are July 23-24. Perhaps that’s what Delany is waiting for to speak on all this, months later for each.
Or maybe he’s using some of the $20-million bonus he received on an extended vacation that has prevented him from reaching anyone to speak on two horrific sexual assault scandals since the initial horrific scandal he was forced to speak on five years ago. The one tha's no longer "unique" to his conference.
This is not reveling in child abuse. Not even close. It's not even about child abuse; it's comeuppance for a hypocrite who's being prosecuted for at least one felony under Michigan law who pontificated in judgment of others while committing exactly the same sins she was publicly condemning.
Nassar's crimes are shocking, heartbreaking, and undeserving of any schadenfreude whatsoever. The coverup crimes for which Simon is being prosecuted are none of the above.
