It was one of the 3 unvaccinated players on the team who caught covid and is causing a shutdown in a critical part of the season. Selfish. Get vaccinated.
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Wrong answer. 97% of those guys are “vaccinated “ . The vax does not prevent ( in many cases), and can be transmitted from a vaxxed pt. —-Middlebury College in Vermont is shut down for + Covid. The place is 99% “vaccinated “ do the math
—This thing is 99.98 % non fatal in people with a healthy immune system
Wrong. Three players are unvaxxed. They had a symptomatic case on the team, and the player was unvaccinated. Shocker
You have no idea what you are talking about in this instance, but whatever fits your agenda.
If the pt is symptomatic, he needs to limit exposure, supportive treatment ( if needed) , then will recover with significantly better protection to further outbreaks/strains than the “vaccinated “ who look to be requiring endless boosters ( every 6-12 months)for occurring mutations ( precipitated largely by the original “vaccine”….it forces the virus to “change/survive” at a faster rate)
WRONG....they very easily could have gotten from someone vaxxed. Just like my son did. 96% of his campus was vaxxed. The only people he was around before he came home were vaxxed. But guess what they don't test them. Since you are clearly clueless VAXXED CAN SPREAD IT....which makes the vaccine useless for anyone in college. And if the VACCINES WORK why did they cancel games?
How am I wrong? You don't make any sense? I stated a fact. That three players on the team are not vaccinated, and that one of those three is symptomatic right now and that is shutting down the program. None of that is wrong, none of that is false.
You were wrong with making the 'selfish' claim given you admit right here that being vaccinated does not change whether you can spread the virus.
LdN
I simply said that I'm not arguing that. The fact still remains - an unvaccinated player shut the program down. No vaccinated players shut it down.
That is not wrong. The program is paused right now due to an unvaccinated player
The program is paused right now due to a tall player.
Correlation does not mean causation.
If you want to call him selfish show your proof of how he is so.
LdN
An unvaccinated player has Covid. No vaccinated players have covid. The program is paused because the unvaccinated player caught covid. Correlation does not equal causation, except when we are talking about something that is doing the job that it was made to do.
You're grasping at straws now. Why does it offend you so much when someone points out a negative occurrence being brought about by an unvaccinated person?
So you are stating that the vaccine prevents covid infection?
Why does this offend me so much? Because your argument is weak and has no support.
Again you could just as easily blame it on his being tall.
Vaccination status has virtually no impact here.
LdN
Yes, it lowers the likelihood that you will contract it, just like a condom lowers the chances of pregnancy, but is not 100%. That is why breakthrough cases occur.
www.cdc.gov
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The vaccine helps protect you from contracting COVID. However, if you do have a breakthrough case it will lessen it's effect.
Yes, a vaccination does protect one from contracting COVID. It's not an "either or".
COVID-19 Vaccination
COVID-19 vaccines protect against COVID-19. Get safety info and more.
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COVID-19 Vaccines Help Protect against Severe Illness with COVID-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Cases
While COVID-19 vaccines are working well, some people who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 will still get sick, because no vaccines are 100% effective. These are called vaccine breakthrough cases. However, data suggest that vaccination may make symptoms less severe in people who are vaccinated but still get COVID-19. mRNA COVID-19 vaccines have been shown to provide protection against severe illness and hospitalization among people of all ages eligible to receive them. This includes people 65 years and older who are at higher risk of severe outcomes from COVID-19."The vaccine helps protect you from contracting COVID. However, if you do have a breakthrough case it will lessen it's effect.
Yes, a vaccination does protect one from contracting COVID. It's not an "either or".
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Yes, it lowers the likelihood that you will contract it, just like a condom lowers the chances of pregnancy, but is not 100%. That is why breakthrough cases occur.
COVID-19 Vaccination
COVID-19 vaccines protect against COVID-19. Get safety info and more.
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COVID-19 Vaccines Help Protect against Severe Illness with COVID-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Cases
While COVID-19 vaccines are working well, some people who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 will still get sick, because no vaccines are 100% effective. These are called vaccine breakthrough cases. However, data suggest that vaccination may make symptoms less severe in people who are vaccinated but still get COVID-19. mRNA COVID-19 vaccines have been shown to provide protection against severe illness and hospitalization among people of all ages eligible to receive them. This includes people 65 years and older who are at higher risk of severe outcomes from COVID-19."
The vaccine helps protect you from contracting COVID. However, if you do have a breakthrough case it will lessen it's effect.
Yes, a vaccination does protect one from contracting COVID. It's not an "either or".
So according to what you just posted a vaccinated person can contract covid.
So you should retract your earlier idiotic statements.
LdN
Obviously, as I have said, vaccines aren't 100% - breakthrough cases do happen. However, the likelihood of contracting the virus is lessened by the vaccine. Just like wearing a condom lessons the risk of STDs or pregnancy - but is not 100%. Another example - Attending college after high school equates to living an average of 20 years longer than a HS dropout... But some college grads die at 25 and dropouts live to 100.
We are looking at the likelihood among the masses and the likelihood of someone on the team contracting the virus if they were all vaccinated is less than when three are not vaccinated
Do you understand percentages and probabilities?
Can you factually say this player was infected due to vaccination status?
Yes / No. Select one
LdN
That is irrelevant, and you are grasping at straws bc you feel attacked and do not have science on your side.
The fact is that, if the entire team was vaccinated right now, we would more likely be playing hoops at this time. However, they are not all, and we are not playing hoops. If they were vaccinated, would we 100% be playing hoops right now? No one can answer that, but we would be more likely to be playing - there could have still been a breakthrough case, but the chances of that are lower.
It's not just the unvaccinated. My teenage grandson and five of his football buddies got it last weekend...healthy kids playing school sports and, at least for my grandson, pretty significant symptoms including a high fever. Everybody in the household was vaccinated. There's no rhyme nor reason to this bug which makes it a devilish problem.
Answer this for me: would you rather be in a
Correct, a vaccination is not 100%. Breakthrough cases do happen, they exist. However, the probability of contracting the virus is reduced for the vaccinated.
Perhaps because you have no idea if said player has mitigating circumstances that discourage him getting the Covid vaccine. My sister-in-law has such a situation. But please…do feel free to pass judgement on the player! You obviously know best.
A D1 athlete in top shape shouldn't have many possible mitigating health issues in play.
Is your SOL a D1 hoops player?
Oh good…glad you know his health situation. Must be a friend of the family or HIPAA laws have a loophole. As I said, you obviously know best. I might forego my PCP visits if you’re willing to give out medical advice.
We should not stop playing because a player has COVID.
COVID doesn’t hurt the young and healthy and spreading is not relevant when millions are already spreading.
More stupidity from those challenged in stats and probability.
COVID doesn’t hurt the young and healthy and spreading is not relevant when millions are already spreading.
More stupidity from those challenged in stats and probability.
I see both sides in this. I see just quarantineing the positive individual and moving forward, but there are also cases of it causing long-term effects and even death among some of the young and healthy. Allowing it to knowingly spread could really open the school up to liability if/when a few athletes (out of the thousands of athletes) dies or has long-term effects from it.
One sick player should not result in cancellation of games. Do they cancel if a player has the flu? Test everybody and if you are clean you play. Injuries happen. Sickness happens. Move on.
Maybe...and I may or may not be allergic to polyethylene glycol and/or polysorbate.
COVID is not the flu, despite what some will claim. It started with the 1 unvaxxed but has since spread
OK how many players are sick? One, Two? My point still stands. If you test clean you should play. I never said Covid was the flu, but if you have the flu you don't play. It should be the same with Covid.
COVID Vaccine Data
openvaers.com
Hit the link…. and the European numbers of the vaccinated with negative effects are much worse. Again, all this for a virus with 99.98+% non fatal rate to most demographics. —don’t outsource decision making (TV/“experts”). Do your own research , make your own informed decisions. Dig
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You guys can go back and forth all day and none of your arguing matters. I'm a vaccinated high school teacher who has been Covid free throughout...despite being in the presence of adolescents of which many are very proud to be unvaccinated and don't always follow masking rules.
My wife and I got boosters 2 Thursdays ago and felt a sense of relief...we had done all we can do while maintaining a very boring Amish type sequestered lifestyle. Our vaccinated but non boostered son came home last weekend after a week of business (and socializing) in NYC.
On Sunday night he felt sick, by Monday morning he was burning a temperature. All 3 of us got tested by my school nurse. Son was positive, wife and I negative.
Wife had pretty serious symptoms starting Tuesday but still tests negative. I have no symptoms and will test negative two more days. Now we all have it..quarantine and a Merry Christmas to all.
Bottom line is that it likely is the Delta variant....my son was able to contact trace it to a business function last TH night where mutiple people came down with Covid...but a positive is a positive. We all are doing fine, my bride suffers from bronchial issues so she has the worst of it.
My body aches but otherwise I'm clean. I'm clearly fighting something but am lucky to not have the hell that I've heard about. No temp, no sneezing or wheezing. Sleeping fine. So since I'm already sore I stacked a cord of wood by the house for Winter this afternoon. Sitting in the jacuzzi enjoying a Rolling Rock. If I wasn't told I had some form of Covid I wouldn't know.
We are glad we were vaccinated. My cousin who is an Emergency Room Doc and Covid expert in LA who has been on the front lines tbroughout says that given our conditions we should be fine. That likely would be a very different case for my wife if she was unvaccinated...but who is to say?
Getting a vaccine is a choice, and putting yourself at greater risk is a choice. Potentially putting others at risk is a choice too. From the moment we knew my son was positive my school nurse team called the shots. I did what they said.
No matter what any of us do it is likely that we all will eventually "get" some form of the Virus. Godspeed to those who roll the dice.
My wife and I got boosters 2 Thursdays ago and felt a sense of relief...we had done all we can do while maintaining a very boring Amish type sequestered lifestyle. Our vaccinated but non boostered son came home last weekend after a week of business (and socializing) in NYC.
On Sunday night he felt sick, by Monday morning he was burning a temperature. All 3 of us got tested by my school nurse. Son was positive, wife and I negative.
Wife had pretty serious symptoms starting Tuesday but still tests negative. I have no symptoms and will test negative two more days. Now we all have it..quarantine and a Merry Christmas to all.
Bottom line is that it likely is the Delta variant....my son was able to contact trace it to a business function last TH night where mutiple people came down with Covid...but a positive is a positive. We all are doing fine, my bride suffers from bronchial issues so she has the worst of it.
My body aches but otherwise I'm clean. I'm clearly fighting something but am lucky to not have the hell that I've heard about. No temp, no sneezing or wheezing. Sleeping fine. So since I'm already sore I stacked a cord of wood by the house for Winter this afternoon. Sitting in the jacuzzi enjoying a Rolling Rock. If I wasn't told I had some form of Covid I wouldn't know.
We are glad we were vaccinated. My cousin who is an Emergency Room Doc and Covid expert in LA who has been on the front lines tbroughout says that given our conditions we should be fine. That likely would be a very different case for my wife if she was unvaccinated...but who is to say?
Getting a vaccine is a choice, and putting yourself at greater risk is a choice. Potentially putting others at risk is a choice too. From the moment we knew my son was positive my school nurse team called the shots. I did what they said.
No matter what any of us do it is likely that we all will eventually "get" some form of the Virus. Godspeed to those who roll the dice.
Hi fellow teacher. HS science/social studies teacher here! I'm surely not a medical expert, but my brother is a doctor and mother has her doctorate in nursing, and they are big supporters of the vaccine and mRNA. I just listen to what they tell me (I choose to listen to the experts who I know have my best interest in mind over trying to figure everything out myself without their background).
Basically, I agree with you that eventually most will get it. However, our vaccine (and boosters) will help shield us from major infection. I have a couple colleagues who refused the vaccine. The one ended up in the hospital with covid for a month in September... He had a hell of a time with it, but did eventually recover.
Godspeed to everyone when we contract it, but I wouldn't want to go about it without a vaccine lessening the impact.
Another colleague of mine in her 20s got it... Was out for a while and just got vaccinated now - in her words "any side effect this gives me will be a heck of a lot better than COVID was!"
Yeah, it has gone through quite a few teachers at my school. I've been good so far, though -- even if I was one of only 2 teachers in my grade for a bit bc of quarantining (THAT was an interesting time)!
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