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McDonough and ABC reported a fictitious stat yesterday - asked which b1g coach recorded the most...

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....11 win seasons - and then answered that it was Bo Schembechler with 11... Paterno recorded 15 seasons with 11 or more wins during his career, 4 more than Bo's 11 career 11-or-more win seasons.
 
....11 win seasons - and then answered that it was Bo Schembechler with 11... Paterno recorded 15 seasons with 11 or more wins during his career, 4 more than Bo's 11 career 11-or-more win seasons.
Still doesn't diminish what BO did. He's one of the 3 or 4 greatest CF coaches of all-time !!!!!
 
Does it mean how many 11 win seasons while a member of the big ten conference?

No, he said which b1g ten coach had the most career 11-or-more win seasons. It's like saying - which b1g coach has the most bowl wins.... You wouldn't count 1 coaches entire career and only a fraction of the other coaches career while they were in the b1g.
 
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....11 win seasons - and then answered that it was Bo Schembechler with 11... Paterno recorded 15 seasons with 11 or more wins during his career, 4 more than Bo's 11 career 11-or-more win seasons.
Do you think that maybe the fact that 10 of Paterno's 11+ win seasons took place when Penn State was an independent and not a member of the Big 10???

I'll wait for the over the wild, over the top. mind blowing rant filled with obscenities as your normal response. 5 .. 4 .. 3.. 2.. 1
 
Still doesn't diminish what BO did. He's one of the 3 or 4 greatest CF coaches of all-time !!!!!

Where did I say anything about "diminishing Bo's career" dumbass??? The answer given relative to the way the question was asked is factually wrong - Bo had 11 career 11-or-more win seasons, Paterno had 15 (including 5 undefeated and untied seasons -- Bo had ZERO of those Zippy.). If any coach was being "diminished" by the way ABC framed this question and false-answer routine, it was Paterno - not "Bo" - you pinhead.
 
No, he said which b1g ten coach had the most career 11-or-more win seasons. It's like saying - which b1g coach has the most bowl wins.... You wouldn't count 1 coaches entire career and only a fraction of the other coaches career while they were in the b1g.

The big 10 likes to count Nebraska's "titles" in the 90's even though they were in another conference.
 
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....11 win seasons - and then answered that it was Bo Schembechler with 11... Paterno recorded 15 seasons with 11 or more wins during his career, 4 more than Bo's 11 career 11-or-more win seasons.

The question was only 10+ win seasons, not 11. Schembechler only had a paltry two 11+ win seasons for the entirety of his coaching career.

Joe had fifteen 11+ win seasons(five of which where post joining the Big 10.)

Joe had seven 10+ win seasons post joining Big Ten.
 
FYI - Bo only had two 11 win seasons.

We might be talking about 10 win seasons here.

Sean McDonough said "most 11 win seasons" - if he only has 2, even more comical... (he quoted the stat after saying Dantonio was one of a select group of coaches with 5 or more 11 win seasons...).
 
Where did I say anything about "diminishing Bo's career" dumbass??? The answer given relative to the way the question was asked is factually wrong - Bo had 11 career 11-or-more win seasons, Paterno had 15 (including 5 undefeated and untied seasons -- Bo had ZERO of those Zippy.). If any coach was being "diminished" by the way ABC framed this question and false-answer routine, it was Paterno - not "Bo" - you pinhead.
Thanks for the info. People or organizations that diminish Joe I dislike if intentional. Sorry you got deal with all the Dumbass people on this board. Its constant.
 
....11 win seasons - and then answered that it was Bo Schembechler with 11... Paterno recorded 15 seasons with 11 or more wins during his career, 4 more than Bo's 11 career 11-or-more win seasons.

Those weren't all in the Big Ten. Paterno wasn't a "Big Ten" coach for all of them. You're looking for a reason to be mad. That stat is accurate.

It would be like Michigan firing Harbaugh and hiring Dabo. Dabo's time at Clemson wouldn't count toward this stat.
 
Those weren't all in the Big Ten. Paterno wasn't a "Big Ten" coach for all of them. You're looking for a reason to be mad. That stat is accurate.

Chewie? The only reason he needs to be mad is waking up in the morning.
 
Still doesn't diminish what BO did. He's one of the 3 or 4 greatest CF coaches of all-time !!!!!

Not even close. He’s maybe one of the best 3 or 4 coaches in the state of Michigan or Midwest region. Not near that level nationally.
 
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OT here ... did anyone else but me think that when Todd Blackledge hesitated to answer the question, he really wanted to guess "Joe Paterno"? Todd might have feared Syracuse alum Sean McDonough's snarky reply.

Furthermore, in an era of 11- and 12-game seasons + Bowl games, why would the question specify merely 10 wins? A 10-3 record is only about a 77% winning rate.

My anti-ABC/ESPN tin-foil "Magic 8-ball" tells me that the original question might have been 11 win seasons until the staff found that the answer was "Joe Paterno." :(:eek:
 
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OT here ... did anyone else but me think that when Todd Blackledge hesitated to answer the question, he really wanted to guess "Joe Paterno"? Todd might have feared Syracuse alum Sean McDonough's snarky reply.

Furthermore, in an era of 11- and 12-game seasons + Bowl games, why would the question specify merely 10 wins? A 10-3 record is only about a 77% winning rate.

My anti-ABC/ESPN tin-foil "Magic 8-ball" tells me that the original question might have been 11 win seasons until the staff found that the answer was "Joe Paterno." :(:eek:

It couldn't have been Paterno. Patreno didn't have most of those seasons while in the Big Ten. Stop making something out of nothing. Blackledge couldn't have cared less and would have said Joe if he felt it was Joe.
 
Still doesn't diminish what BO did. He's one of the 3 or 4 greatest CF coaches of all-time !!!!!

If you believe Wikipedia, he is ranked 39th in wins.
Although imo his image has been very unfairly treated by the public, Joe is right near the top after Saban and the Bear.
 
If you believe Wikipedia, he is ranked 39th in wins.
Although imo his image has been very unfairly treated by the public, Joe is right near the top after Saban and the Bear.

Yeah, I think right now Saban, Bear and Joe would be the top 3 regardless of people's personal opinion of any of those guys.
 
If you believe Wikipedia, he is ranked 39th in wins.
Although imo his image has been very unfairly treated by the public, Joe is right near the top after Saban and the Bear.

I should have added that your man has a very high winning percentage.
 
Yeah, I don't think this is something to complain about.


The really interesting point is that for all the worship that Woody Hayes gets in Big Ten country, he had FIVE -- yes, FIVE -- 10+ win seasons in 28 years at Ohio State.

People talk about his 5 national titles.....only once was Ohio State the unanimous #1 at the end. Heck, in two of those "championship" seasons, Ohio State didn't even finish #1 in either the AP or Coaches Poll.

Funny how the Woody and Bo legacies dominate the Big Ten, when Joe had about as many 11-win seasons as Bo and Woody had 10-win seasons COMBINED.


But, the trivia question as phrased was accurate.
 
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Joe had fifteen 11+ win seasons(five of which where post joining the Big 10.)

Joe had seven 10+ win seasons post joining Big Ten.

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Something seems impossible about this.

The first statement implies 10 seasons with >=11 wins prior to joining the B1G.

The second statement says only seven with >=10 wins.

Not possible that both are true.
 
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Something seems impossible about this.

The first statement implies 10 seasons with >=11 wins prior to joining the B1G.

The second statement says only seven with >=10 wins.

Not possible that both are true.


No, it's correct.

Joe had 15 11-win seasons TOTAL. Most of them prior to 1993.

Since 1993, he had 7 10-wins seasons.......5 of those 7 were 11-win season (1994, 1996, 2005, 2008, 2009). 1993 and 1999 were 10-win seasons.
 
No, it's correct.

Joe had 15 11-win seasons TOTAL. Most of them prior to 1993.

Since 1993, he had 7 10-wins seasons.......5 of those 7 were 11-win season (1994, 1996, 2005, 2008, 2009). 1993 and 1999 were 10-win seasons.

No, that's not what you originally said. You said ten 11+ win seasons prior to 1993, and seven 10+ win seasons in the same time period.

Not possible! Any 11+ win season is a 10+ win season.
 
Those weren't all in the Big Ten. Paterno wasn't a "Big Ten" coach for all of them. You're looking for a reason to be mad. That stat is accurate.

It would be like Michigan firing Harbaugh and hiring Dabo. Dabo's time at Clemson wouldn't count toward this stat.

Nonsense, when someone says, which b1g Coach recorded the most bowl wins - they count all of the coaches career bowl wins, not just bowl wins while they coached in the b1g. You're completely full of crap that anyone would eliminate one coaches bowl wins because they weren't recorded while in the b1g while counting all of the other coach's simply because his entire career was in b1g. The question said which b1g Coach recorded the most xx win seasons - it added no qualifier about "while in the b1g"... it simply asked which coach had the most career xx win seasons.
 
Nonsense, when someone says, which b1g Coach recorded the most bowl wins - they count all of the coaches career bowl wins, not just bowl wins while they coached in the b1g. You're completely full of crap that anyone would eliminate one coaches bowl wins because they weren't recorded while in the b1g while counting all of the other coach's simply because his entire career was in b1g. The question said which b1g Coach recorded the most xx win seasons - it added no qualifier about "while in the b1g"... it simply asked which coach had the most career xx win seasons.

No, they don't. Obviously.
 
Bo can't hold a candle to Joe. Just look at their bowl records which is a complete mismatch. Schembechler couldn't beat a high school team in Pasadena even with a roster stockpiled with all great talent as it was in the 70's.
 
No, they don't. Obviously.

Yes, they do. When someone says which b1g Coach has the most wins, bowl wins, etc... - they count all their wins, bowl wins, etc... dumbass, not just bowl wins while coaching in b1g.

If they meant the "qualifier" you're claiming, they would say, "Which b1g Coach had the most career 10-or-more win seasons in a big ten season...or while coaching in big ten...".
 
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Yes, they do. When someone says which b1g Coach has the most wins, bowl wins, etc... - they count all their wins, bowl wins, etc... dumbass, not just bowl wins while coaching in b1g.

You couldn't be more wrong. When we were an independent Joe wasn't a Big Ten coach. It's a very simple concept. Do we count Scott Frost record at UCF when discussing the Big Ten? How about PJ Fleck? Of course not. Paterno has an overall bowl win total and then a win total while in the Big Ten. Again, simple, stop thinking everyone is out to get Joe and you won't be upset when others provide accurate facts.
 
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