Mike Tomlin
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I don't disagree with the premise, but the list of active coaches that have had more success than Tomlin is a short one.
It was the first half. The Steelers dominated but had 3 key penalties which prevented them from building better than a 7-6 lead and allowed the Ravens to stay in the game. The lack of discipline in the first half is a trademark of Tomlin's teams.
Very short.
2006 Chargers finished 14 and 2 and lost first playoff game. Spanos fired head coach Marty Schollenheimer right after that post season failure. The Chargers for the most part have sucked the tailpipe since.
All Tomin does is win much more than he loses. Hell last year they made the playoffs and won the first round with a team that had about a third of their key players either on IR or missed multiple games with injuries. If he wins another super bowl in the next 5 years he will retire a hall of fame coach.
Steeler fans should be damn careful what they wish for - they could have their wish granted as the Charger fans have.
The offensive pass interference call on the Brown touchdown was a bit iffy, even if the NFL approved announcers praised the quality of the officials in making that call.
Yep. Tomlin just wins. There's only one coach around these days with a better record over the last 10 years and I would argue that guy has better players.
2 best defensive linemen out with injuries. Only 1 starting receiver playing and your 100 million dollar QB throws 2 bad interceptions and you want to blame Tomlin for a poor coaching job for winning and going 10-5 on the way to 11-5 and a division title ? Check your medication. Only Belicheck has won more games in the last ten years and he has a better big game and consistent QB than Tomlin.
Bradshaw hated Chuck Noll too. He is nut and has lots of cancelled therapy checks to prove it.
A lot of people don't want to give Tomlin credit. I hear it all the time on the radio that the Steelers should get rid of Tomlin and that Tomlin is on the hot seat. I think Tomlin will be coaching the Steelers for many years into the future. Its not easy to win in the NFL and Tomlin now has over 100 wins as a coach and has never had a losing season. If Tomlin for some unforeseen reason were to leave the Steelers, I think there would be a host of other teams that would bend over backwards to sign him.
Terry Bradshaw was a great quarterback for the Steelers and has made a nice after playing career as an NFL analyst, but I think he is dead wrong about Tomlin. It is very easy to be critical. At times, I wonder about his clock management decisions and his inability to win the "easy" games where the Steelers are big favorites. At the same time, he has made some very good decisions in the assistant coaches he has hired, he relates well to the players, and he gets his teams ready to play in spite of injuries to key players.
I feel fortunate that Mike Tomlin is the head coach of my favorite NFL team. I hope that he stays with the Steelers for the foreseeable future.
I feel the same way about James Franklin. I feel fortunate that Franklin is the head coach for my alma mater. I hope he stays with Penn State for a very long time.
Terry Bradshaw was a great quarterback for the Steelers and has made a nice after playing career as an NFL analyst, but I think he is dead wrong about Tomlin. It is very easy to be critical. At times, I wonder about his clock management decisions and his inability to win the "easy" games where the Steelers are big favorites. At the same time, he has made some very good decisions in the assistant coaches he has hired, he relates well to the players, and he gets his teams ready to play in spite of injuries to key players.
I feel fortunate that Mike Tomlin is the head coach of my favorite NFL team. I hope that he stays with the Steelers for the foreseeable future.
I feel the same way about James Franklin. I feel fortunate that Franklin is the head coach for my alma mater. I hope he stays with Penn State for a very long time.
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Chuck Noll was always very adamant about why he was so harsh on Bradshaw. He knew that Bradshaw would have been out of control if he wasn't a pr*ck to him. In turn, Bradshaw could never really get over it even after Noll proved 4 times over that his approach was absolutely the correct one.
Bradshaw was upset at how the media and fans treated him, as much as Noll...but the grudge is just freaking nuts now...gone on far too long.
Just saw a chuck noll piece on espn, and TB was a whiny little jackass about him too.
He's a crybaby.
He's a crybaby.
I saw that as well. Terry said he just wanted Noll to give him a hug every once in a while. Noll's son responded by saying that he never got many hugs either. Terry just didn't know how to relate to Noll's stoicism.
How many coaches take over as good a team as the Steelers were in 2007? How many coaches have had a young franchise quarterback on the roster when they were hired? Tomlin is a solid NFL coach but there has been continued inconsistency and I do question why they haven't done better with the talent they have had. Is there a better combination then Roethlisberger, Bell and Brown in the NFL; I don't think so. Pittsburgh's ongoing success has as much to do with their front office as anything, imo.
btw, imagine if Brown didn't manage to get the ball over the goal and the clock ran out?!
btw, imagine if Brown didn't manage to get the ball over the goal and the clock ran out?!
Yeah, and Terry carried his hurt feelings on for 30+ years after his playing career?
Chuck Noll was an interesting guy off the field, too; flew his own plane, wine connoisseur, accomplished photographer, etc.
And, he played the uekele. The guy was a renaissance man.
Bradshaw and Ringo Starr are the two luckiest men in the world.
Only one of them knows it.
On balance, Tomlin is a good fit for the Steelers.
But, Steelers "always play hard"? The biggest problem with Tomlin teams is their performance, on the road especially, against lower rated teams. That's an issue where coaching is a factor.
Dang Tiger,How many coaches take over as good a team as the Steelers were in 2007? How many coaches have had a young franchise quarterback on the roster when they were hired? Tomlin is a solid NFL coach but there has been continued inconsistency and I do question why they haven't done better with the talent they have had. Is there a better combination then Roethlisberger, Bell and Brown in the NFL; I don't think so. Pittsburgh's ongoing success has as much to do with their front office as anything, imo.
btw, imagine if Brown didn't manage to get the ball over the goal and the clock ran out?!
For a second there I thought I was on the HR and some hawk fan was telling the world Cael is a great recruiter but doesn't do much on the development side of the equation.
The Steelers the season b4 Tomlin took over weren't very good, talented but not very good.
The Steelers used to beat the snot out of people defensively and they made the playoffs last year with a non existent defense and again this year with a defense that is not physically intimidating but getting better.
In his 10 year career he started with a talented but at least in the immediate past, underperforming team and took them to 2 Super Bowls with an adequate offense but a dominate D.
Now he has the talent on the offensive side of the ball and what is developing into an adequate defense.
Under performing to focused champion.
Defensively dominate winner and adapts to his talent and continues to win with offensively dominate talent.
He has managed to win when his offensive line was made up 1 player and 4 bodies and he has won when his defensive secondary (last year) was made up of 4 life sized maniquens.
Instead of looking at the job Tomlin has done with the talent he has had, the appreciation is much more appreciated when you take the time to realize he has won with teams that were very diverse in their talent strengths.
You make up your mind and then justify your opinion. Tomlin has won a higher % than any coach in Steelers history and more than most in NFL history. Take your bias and shove it up your arseHow many coaches take over as good a team as the Steelers were in 2007? How many coaches have had a young franchise quarterback on the roster when they were hired? Tomlin is a solid NFL coach but there has been continued inconsistency and I do question why they haven't done better with the talent they have had. Is there a better combination then Roethlisberger, Bell and Brown in the NFL; I don't think so. Pittsburgh's ongoing success has as much to do with their front office as anything, imo.
btw, imagine if Brown didn't manage to get the ball over the goal and the clock ran out?!
The role of a coach is contingent on your front office, QB, coaching staff and overall talent. Head coaches are managers of the staff and players and Tomlin is a top 5 coach in this league. The Steelers are a top 3 organization in the league and they need each other. Steelers fans need to enjoy the stability and chill out criticizing one of our own. Belichick in Cleveland was fired with Nick Saban and a staff full of future head coaches working with him.
I chuckled when I read this, I can remember the pre-Noll days when they were as bad as the Browns.
Not defending Bradshaw here....but at the end of the Noll story on a "Football Life" he did say that Chuck is one of the top 4 coaches in the history of the game. And he is right about that.
Care to elaborate without posting like a child? What perceived bias are you talking about? I have been a Steeler fan since the 70s and gave an honest opinion. I said I thought Tomlin was a good NFL coach. Don't you agree that Pittsburgh has one of the best front offices in the NFL? What actually is your issue with what I said?
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Simple. If you think Tomlin is doing less with more, you must think Noll (who I think is very under rated) and Cowher (over rated by Steeler fans) did a much better job than Tomlin who has to deal with the reality of a parity driven league and actually, I would say, an average GM.
The reality is Noll had the benefit of a few amazing drafts in the early/mid 70's and the explosion of steroids that really paid off on the Steelers and Raiders of that era.
Cowher is a lesser coach than Tomlin by every objective measuring stick. Cowher was still a good coach but absolutely did less with a similar level of talent.
Tomlin does benefit from a great QB and so does Bellichek. We all know Chuck Noll's record without Bradshaw. I suspect Bellichek will retire when Brady does. We'll see about Mike and Ben. I think Tomlin is young enough, smart enough, and fired up enough to win with another QB. Maybe then folks will stfu.
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