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Nick Lee 149Doesn’t mean anything re: where they’ll compete, but interesting that Van Ness is certified at 165 and Haines at 174. Meaning both will have at least a decent cut. Not surprising for Haines, but surprising for Van Ness.
LOL certified doesn't mean that's what they weigh!!Doesn’t mean anything re: where they’ll compete, but interesting that Van Ness is certified at 165 and Haines at 174. Meaning both will have at least a decent cut. Not surprising for Haines, but surprising for Van Ness.
yes, would be a good idea to summarize it here!Oh my, it’s that time of year again when many need the process explained, and the meaning of various terms gets all bungled.
Not an expert on the terms, but here are the keys points in plain English (excepting my lousy typing).yes, would be a good idea to summarize it here!
So he walks around at 200+ in the off-season and will wrestle 165???Shayne Van Cenzo.
Yes -- but not until RUCreedo declares him to be on the Rutger Cruiseliner.So he walks around at 200+ in the off-season and will wrestle 165???
I’m still trying to wrap my head around traffic flow patterns in the parking garage near REC HallOh my, it’s that time of year again when many need the process explained, and the meaning of various terms gets all bungled.
For sure, I wasn’t stating that Van Ness will wrestle that weight or that he’s gonna have a hard time making weight. Just that he walks around a bit bigger than some of us would have thought.Not an expert on the terms, but here are the keys points in plain English (excepting my lousy typing).
At your cert weigh in you must be sufficiently hydrated according to a pee specific gravity rule. If you don’t come in under the SG limit, you get turned away and must try again at a later time/date.
Once you pass the pee density test and step on the scale your weight is recorded, and your %body fat is measured. Your lowest allowable weigh-in for the season is the body weight that corresponds to 5% body fat. So if you weigh in at 150 with 10% body fat, you can weigh in at no less than 150 - 150(10%-5%), or 142.5 at any official weigh-in. Your body fat and pee specific gravity are not part of the in-season weigh-in process, only the certification. ((My guess here is that the “cert weights” thrown about in this thread are actually the lowest weight class each wrestler would have had to wrestle at on the day of the certification weigh-in had there been a meet, e.g., a 157.1 weigh-in shows up as a 165 “cert weight” as el jefe noted))
The lowest weight class you can therefore wrestle at is the one corresponding to your lowest allowable weigh-in. In the example above you could wrestle 149 or above, but not 141, because 142.5 is above 141. Even if you wanted to wrestle 149 I don’t believe you could weigh in under 142.5.
During the season you can lose weight at the rate of 1.5% (or less) of body weight per week. So at each weigh-in you can calculate a max descent rate plan to hit any target down to your minimum. Failure to stay on that plan at a subsequent weigh-in delays your progress down from the original max descent trajectory. Essentially every weigh-in resets/revised how low you can go at subsequent weigh-ins.
There are also rules about wrestling up weight classes (then descending) that rarely come into play for full-time starters (usually backups like Mason Manville that are game to wrestle at 184 but could in principle get to 165).
Is the full list for the team posted anywhere?
But 133 at Oklahoma State 🧐So he walks around at 200+ in the off-season and will wrestle 165???
But only while he is cutting to 125.But 133 at Oklahoma State 🧐
Nobody knows because Track doesn't list his actual weight on cert day or his body fat. Need both of those to calculate his lowest legal weight.Listen I get all the mumbo jumbo about cert and specific gravity pee and all that. Ok maybe I don't. Someone like me just wants to know without doing all the math or googling it is what lowest weight can van ness go? Can he wrestle 149 or do we not know that because we don't know the body fat. Who the f... Came up with this shit anyhow somebody get bored at the NCAA one year and decided to confuse the shit outta everybody wtf
What a crock lol. So this was published so some guys on a wrestling forum can fill time before the season really starts. I get it. LolNobody knows because Track doesn't list his actual weight on cert day or his body fat. Need both of those to calculate his lowest legal weight.
Mostly, yes.What a crock lol. So this was published so some guys on a wrestling forum can fill time before the season really starts. I get it. Lol