.......scUM is the only ranked 2-loss team (who easily could have 3-losses without the aid of the Referines) in the AP.... The AP Poll is such a joke - a severely biased piece of media-hack trash.
Mizzou drops 12 places for losing to a ranked team, while Bama drops 6 spots for being dominated by, and losing to, an UNRANKED team in the AP Poll.
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Mizzou has been a mess all year and over ranked. They should have lost to Vandy and BC. The voters were just waiting for a reason to drop them and they got curb stomped by A&M.
This Mizzou fell last week then they got destroyed. It makes perfect sense
Bama beat Georgia. Quality wins matter.
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To describe Missouri’s result as “losing” and Alabama’s as “dominated by” is disingenuous.
The only shocking part is that Notre Dame isn’t in the top 5.
Alabama was dominated by an UNRANKED really cellar-dweller SEC team that is among the bottom quartile of FBS teams. Vanderbilt led wire-to-wire. They outgained Alabama, they out-1stDowned Alabama, they doubled Alabama's rushing yardage..... they responded with additional points every time Alabama scored.... After Alabama's last score with 2:46 remaining, Vanderbilt ran off seven 1st Downs starting at their own 18 to use up the 2-Minute Officials TO, all of Bama's 3 TOs and the entire clock, going into "Victory Formation" after the last 1st Down on 1st down of fresh set of downs deep in Alabama territory - they could have scored again if they wanted, the Alabama defense had absolutely nothing for them. You're nuts if you think Vanderbilt didn't clearly dominate, and dictate, this game from start to finish. That or you just didn't watch the game and are talking out of your ass a la HandoCommado.
49 times out of 50 Alabama will beat Vandy.
Hats off to Vandy’s game plan and execution, but that ain’t happening weekly
Who said it's happening weekly? Bama only dropped 6 spots for being dominated and losing to a bottom quartile FBS team - the same Poll just dropped Mizzou 12 spots for losing to a RANKED team that is currently #15 in the nation??? That makes absolutely zero sense logically. This is the same Poll that has scUM as the only ranked 2-loss team despite the fact that scUM doesn't have an impressive win on their Resume and easily could have a couple more losses without their security-blanket Referines. Washington State is 4-1 with a win over Washington (the team team that just beat 2-loss scUM) - so what's the logic for ranking a 2-loss scUM team over a 1-loss Washington State team??? The AP Poll is nothing more than a biased media-hack created wish-list.
I actually agree that Alabama got dominated. Just watch the highlights. Vandy ran their asses over on offense.
Fair but the point being made is whatever word we use for what happened to Bama we have to find a worse way to describe what happened to Mizzou
After decades of consistency in this regard, this is now noteworthy why?
Dumbass doesn't seem to understand that there is a logical disconnect between dropping 12 spots for being dominated by a top 15 opponent and only dropping 6 spots after being dominated by a team that is not only UNRANKED, but a perennial SEC cellar-dweller and bottom-quartile FBS team by the exact same voting base. A massive logical disconnect.
The team that just beat Alabama count?
I don’t often agree with Beastie, but Vandy did possess the rock for nearly 45 minutes in the game vs Bama.
Vanderbilt TOP: 42:08
Alabama TOP: 17:52
Not only that, but Vandy led start-to-finish won every offensive statistic.....
But no big deal according to the AP Voter media-hack shills.
They dropped them 6 spots which is appropriate. Who else should be ahead of them. There's a clear top 7 right now...or 6 plus Miami
Missouri got destroyed and Bama lost by 5. Don’t like Bama but they were hardly destroyed.
Bama was dominated far worse than the scoreboard would indicate. Vandy dominated TOP 42:08 to 17:52..... doubled Alabama in rushing yards.... out 1stDowned Alabama 26 to 17.... Vandy led wire-to-wire...... every time Alabama would score to cut the lead, Vandy responded. Alabama was trailing 40-28 when they scored late in the 4th QTR with 2:47 remaining. Alabama still had all their TOs and the 2 minute TO.... Vandy started their ensuing possession at their own 18 and proceeded to reel off 7 straight First Downs using up all of Bama's TOs, the 2-minute TO and all the clock - going into "Victory Formation" deep in Alabama territory on 1st Down after their last First Down Conversion. Vandy could have scored again if they wanted to - Alabama could not stop them.
Give it time. Those "holier than thou a-holes" will somehow make into the top 5 eventually with their putrid schedule
If Bama win over Georgia is so meaningful why is Georgia ranked a head of them? Shouldn’t the team that won head to head matter more? Both are rank too high in my view but they need to have these SEC schools up there. I would have had Miami a head of both Georgia and Bama even though they should have lost the last two weeks. Undefeated should matter too.
Miami needs to change their name from the Miami Hurricanes to the Miami “corrupt replay booth” Hurricanes.
ND is currently ranked #11. Their remaining schedule is:
Home vs Stanford
Neutral Site vs Ga Tech
Neutral Site vs Navy
Home vs FL State
Home vs Virginia
Neutral Site vs Army
Away vs USC
Aside from the weak schedule they only play 3 games at opponent stadiums all season.
All I can say is go Army & Navy. ESPN game predictor gives Navy a 10% chance to win and Army a 17% chance to win.
Not for noth'in, but could you list all the UNRANKED, perennial bottom-quartile teams Mizzou has lost too????
Mizzou was punished twice as severely for losing to a top-15 team - that makes zero sense except in the world of biased media-hacks whose anti-objective, purely subjective crap is on display every week.
I agree with your assessment. After bama scored their last TD what Vandy did was impressive. Instead of three runs to kill some clock and punting the back to Bama they were the aggressor making one first down after another.
What on earth would you like to happen to Alabama? Drop them out of the 25? Make them forfeit their last National Championship?
Jesus. They played a bad game and Vandy played an awesome game. It happens. Alabama is still a formidable team.
Cute, but the original post is quite clear that there is a logical disconnect between dropping Alabama only 6 spots for losing to an UNRANKED bottom-quartile FBS team while dropping Missouri 12 spots for losing to a top-15 team makes zero sense and demonstrates the clear bias of how the media-hacks "rank" teams. They're supposed to use an objective, unbiased standard when ranking teams, not a purely subjective, arbitrary approach that depends on the team in question.
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BTW, could I get a clarification on the rationale for ranking a 2-loss scUM team that is beyond fortunate to only have 2 losses over a Washington State for instance who only has 1 loss (to a team currently ranked 17) and who beat the team (U-dub) scUM just lost to??? One less loss, better record against common opponents, no losses to UNRANKED opponents..... but of course, objectively 2-loss scUM should be ranked higher than 1 loss Washington State???
PSU beats Temple 49 of 50 times, too. That 1 time PSU was not a good football team and Temple was probably better.
Michigan has a loss to Texas which most voters flat out ignore
Common opponents mean nothing or you could never rank teams
Would Michigan be expected to beat Wazzu--yes--it's not hard to comprehend why they're ranked higher
Wazzu just lost by 21 to Boise State after needing 2 OTs to beat San Jose State--of course they aren't ranked. Big picture. You can't cherry pick "how'd they do against Washington" and rank them lol
Look at the time of possession and third down conversions. I think the term applies.
There is really no point to argue about rankings if your team then loses the next game. Save it for December.
I'm not arguing about Rankings, I'm saying there is proof of massive subjectivity and arbitrary behavior by the hack-media pollsters - they don't use the same lenses for every team. It makes zero sense to drop one top-10 team 12 positions for losing to a ranked opponent who is currently ranked #15, while dropping another team only 6 spots for losing to an UNRANKED SEC cellar-dweller, historically bottom-quartile FBS team (who already had 2 losses including a loss an OOC game to Ga ST) an opponent who remains UNRANKED. That makes zero logical sense and is provably un-objective, completely subjective and arbitrary treatment of the two teams.
scUM being the only ranked 2-loss team is another glaring example - there are double-digit 1-loss traditional "P5" Teams (let alone all of FBS) that have only 1-loss and are unranked including UNL and Rutgers in B1G. Washington State beat Washington (the team scUM just lost to) @U-Dub - they're 4-1 with their only loss coming against a currently ranked team. Rutgers beat Washington and is 4-1. It's ridiculous that scUM is the only 2-loss ranked team when 2 losses is a disqualifying mark for 100% of all other FBS teams at this point of the season and there are 1-loss teams with better resumes including wins against Washington, the Conference opponent who just beat scUM soundly (won by 10 points, outgained scUM 429-287 and out 1stDowned scUM 23-17). Just utterly arbitrary and ridiculous that scUM is the only ranked 2-loss team when their are multiple 1-loss teams that not only weren't easily handled by U-Dub, but actually beat U-Dub (including beating them @home).
You can choose any term you like to describe Alabama’s loss. And you can cherry pick any stats you want. The facts are Alabama was still in the game if it could have gotten a stop at the end and Missouri got absolutely destroyed. The comparative terms the OP used were disingenuous. That was my only point.
You need to get over it somehow. You should have learned the lesson of "massive subjectivity and arbitrary behavior" back in 1969, or 1973, or surely in 1994, or maybe in 2016. It sucks, but that is how this sport has always been, and it is how this sport always shall be.
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