Moorhead has a stronger twitter game than the previous OC....

[Richard the LIONhearted]

From this morning:

Coach Joe Moorhead ‏@BallCoachJoeMo 4m4 minutes ago
PSU "O" Fast, Physical & Explosive in 2016 Construction Begins Now We Will...

#EarnTheRight #107KStrong #WeAre

 

[Art]

Performance first, mouth second.

 

[bvillebaron]

Performance first, mouth second.

He "performed" at Fordham which is why he got the job. Apparently, you don't get the concept of the importance of recruiting via social media in today's world.

 

[Art]

He "performed" at Fordham which is why he got the job. Apparently, you don't get the concept of the importance of recruiting via social media in today's world.

Performing at Fordham ain't the same as performing at PSU. If that's his initial attempt at "recruiting via social media" I expect considerable improvement. Maybe Twitters increase in message length will help.

 

[duber]

From this morning:

Coach Joe Moorhead ‏@BallCoachJoeMo 4m4 minutes ago
PSU "O" Fast, Physical & Explosive in 2016 Construction Begins Now We Will...

#EarnTheRight #107KStrong #WeAre

love it thanks for sharing!!!

 

[royboy]

Performing at Fordham ain't the same as performing at PSU. If that's his initial attempt at "recruiting via social media" I expect considerable improvement. Maybe Twitters increase in message length will help.

There's that old humility of yours, Art.
Even when you make a stupid comment, there's no backing down.

 

[Art]

There's that old humility of yours, Art.
Even when you make a stupid comment, there's no backing down.

Ah, so you're impressed by Moorhead's forays on Twitter? Just proves how right Mencken was.

 

[Nitt1300]

Performing at Fordham ain't the same as performing at PSU. If that's his initial attempt at "recruiting via social media" I expect considerable improvement. Maybe Twitters increase in message length will help.

coaching is coaching, if you can do it at one level, you can do it at the next

 

[KC-KS-Lion]

He "performed" at Fordham which is why he got the job. Apparently, you don't get the concept of the importance of recruiting via social media in today's world.

The only thing that is apparent to me is this staff's marketing ability. Beyond that, even though I don't have a warm or fuzzy, I am not certain of its trending or eventual success. It's why you play the games.
I found it quite interesting that CJF mentioned he had compiled a list of prospective coaches across the country after getting the hire at Penn State, then hired only one not on his previous staff, and followed that up with hiring someone he learned about by sharing practice facilities for the previous year's bowl game.
What should be apparent to this staff is that some of the fan base listen and remember. If the new OC has half the ability some are touting, he should be able to address many of the things that are obvious to many of the fans.

 

[Obliviax]

Me Likey.

Not sure what else you could do....plane dragging a banner?

 

[Art]

coaching is coaching, if you can do it at one level, you can do it at the next

Really? Spurrier in the NFL. Chip Kelly in the NFL. Hell, even Nick Saban in the NFL. Success at higher levels ain't nowhere near automatic.

 

[royboy]

Ah, so you're impressed by Moorhead's forays on Twitter? Just proves how right Mencken was.

I'm impressed at his efforts to communicate.

And I realize the target market is not middle-age know-it-alls like us.

 

[Art]

I'm impressed at his efforts to communicate.

And I realize the target market is not middle-age know-it-alls like us.

You're impressed by that effort? Doesn't take much.

 

[StinkStankStunk]

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coaching is coaching, if you can do it at one level, you can do it at the next

I like the Morehead hire

I think he will do well

I think there are some "constants" that all good coaches have - no matter what the level


That said, there ARE different challenges from one level to the next.
If there weren't....Jerry Faust would be on ND's Mount Rushmore, alongside Rockne and Parseghian.


Time will tell

.

 

[BBG65]

The only thing that is apparent to me is this staff's marketing ability. Beyond that, even though I don't have a warm or fuzzy, I am not certain of its trending or eventual success. It's why you play the games.
I found it quite interesting that CJF mentioned he had compiled a list of prospective coaches across the country after getting the hire at Penn State, then hired only one not on his previous staff, and followed that up with hiring someone he learned about by sharing practice facilities for the previous year's bowl game.

The only thing that is apparent to me is this staff's marketing ability. Beyond that, even though I don't have a warm or fuzzy, I am not certain of its trending or eventual success. It's why you play the games.
I found it quite interesting that CJF mentioned he had compiled a list of prospective coaches across the country after getting the hire at Penn State, then hired only one not on his previous staff, and followed that up with hiring someone he learned about by sharing practice facilities for the previous year's bowl game.
What should be apparent to this staff is that some of the fan base listen and remember. If the new OC has half the ability some are touting, he should be able to address many of the things that are obvious to many of the fans.

What should be apparent to this staff is that some of the fan base listen and remember. If the new OC has half the ability some are touting, he should be able to address many of the things that are obvious to many of the fans.

"many of the things that are obvious to many of the fans" the fans are wrong about.

 

[Nitt1300]

Really? Spurrier in the NFL. Chip Kelly in the NFL. Hell, even Nick Saban in the NFL. Success at higher levels ain't nowhere near automatic.

The NFL isn't another level, it's another game.

There is far less difference between D1 and DII than D1 fans want to believe

 

[Art]

"many of the things that are obvious to many of the fans" the fans are wrong about.

You mean like that Donovan had little or no clue?

 

[StinkStankStunk]

You mean like that Donovan had little or no clue?

Meanie!!!

 

[Art]

The NFL isn't another level, it's another game.

There is far less difference between D1 and DII than D1 fans want to believe

Okay, so why is that some guys who are successful at one level aren't successful when they move up and others are?

 

[Art]

Meanie!!!

Dude, you want me to lay off the hanging curve ball?

 

[Fairfax Lion]

Absolutely agree with Nitt1300... Di to the pros is a totally different game, likewise Faust coming from high school to Notre Dame is a totally different game... not so much from DII to DI.

 

[JoeLion]

I don't twit (?) but if I was a college coach today and wanted to communicate a message to potential recruits I would definitely partake. It's part of the job today whether we agree with it or like it.

 

[Woodpecker]

Performance first, mouth second.

I gotta side with the others on this, Art. He won't have performance to tout for many months. Being in a leadership role, I have no problem with him announcing his vision ("PSU "O" Fast, Physical & Explosive in 2016") and plan ("Construction Begins Now"). I think silence at this point would be more worrysome.

 

[artsandletters]

Ah, so you're impressed by Moorhead's forays on Twitter? Just proves how right Mencken was.

Mencken was definitely right but I don't think positive reaction to Moorhead's twit was an optimal example when so much else is available. e.g.

and

 

[PSU-Knocker]

The only thing that is apparent to me is this staff's marketing ability. Beyond that, even though I don't have a warm or fuzzy, I am not certain of its trending or eventual success. It's why you play the games.
I found it quite interesting that CJF mentioned he had compiled a list of prospective coaches across the country after getting the hire at Penn State, then hired only one not on his previous staff, and followed that up with hiring someone he learned about by sharing practice facilities for the previous year's bowl game.
What should be apparent to this staff is that some of the fan base listen and remember. If the new OC has half the ability some are touting, he should be able to address many of the things that are obvious to many of the fans.

I don't know if you're criticizing the move or not but, that was the way I hoped the new coordinator would be selected. If he had limited to only those he knew previously, he would probably not get the best available. When a position becomes open, interested parties make their interest known, you want the best available, not the best of those you've met in the past.

 

[Art]

I gotta side with the others on this, Art. He won't have performance to tout for many months. Being in a leadership role, I have no problem with him announcing his vision ("PSU "O" Fast, Physical & Explosive in 2016") and plan ("Construction Begins Now"). I think silence at this point would be more worrysome.

I get that, sort of. Then the question is who is the target audience? Fans? No harm, no foul. Recruits? I understand the approach, I question the medium. it's out there for the folks he's recruiting against to see. To me, that's like flipping your hole cards when they're dealt. Not the best strategy under most circumstances.

 

[Nitt1300]

Okay, so why is that some guys who are successful at one level aren't successful when they move up and others are?

you imply that the exception is the rule, people fail and succeed in all walks of life

 

[Art]

Mencken was definitely right but I don't think positive reaction to Moorhead's twit was an optimal example when so much else is available. e.g.

and

I didn't realize that I indicated that it was optimal.

 

[LionJim]

Ah, so you're impressed by Moorhead's forays on Twitter? Just proves how right Mencken was.

It's not that we're impressed, it's that the guy has barely started and you're all over him. Yeah, the proof is gonna have to wait until September at the earliest but if you're gonna bash him over a Twitter feed in January......

 

[Bobpsu]

It's not that we're impressed, it's that the guy has barely started and you're all over him. Yeah, the proof is gonna have to wait until September at the earliest but if you're gonna bash him over a Twitter feed in January......

Art did you get lost along the way or just having a bad day?

 

[Art]

you imply that the exception is the rule, people fail and succeed in all walks of life

I implied nothing of the sort. I simply indicated that his success at Fordham was not a guarantee that he will succeed at PSU, nothing more. Unfortunately, some people believe that if you don't automatically give a standing ovation to everything done within or by the coaching staff you're forecasting doom

 

[Obliviax]

I think Donovan's problem was that he tried to fit Por-style personnel into his mobile QB based offense. It just didn't work and he never "got it". That, and this is pure speculation, may have led to some level of discomfort between he and CJF. I mean, CJF didn't wait 8 hours to fire him after the last game.

JoeMo will have personnel more suited to him Offensive game-plan. Clearly there is a change in levels, but JoeMo has coached at a higher level, just not at the top 20 level (which is where we hope to be). Regardless, we've seen offenses that share this style be very successful, in fact, may be revolutionizing college football (A&M, Houston, Baylor, TCU, etc.).

Are we just going all "Rich-Rod" or BYU? Time will tell.

 

[Pennoyer]

Let me offer this on Moorhead and please take it for what it is worth. I am VERY excited for Moorhead. I have watched a whole host of Fordham games over the last couple of years and his offense will translate very well to D1 especially where there are elite athletes and despite a bad OL.

A few years ago, one of my assistant coaches was a kid who just graduated from Fordham. His senior year, Moorhead was hired and installed his offense. Kid said he learned more in one week from Moorhead than he had in all other years combined. Offense was easy to install, plays were in and out quickly, easy for kids to understand, and played to its strengths and the defense's weaknesses. That sounds very different than our offense the last 2 years.

Offensive kids absolutely loved it. Team went from 1-10 to 6-5 in his senior year. Obviously once my friend graduated, they had even more success. He has nothing but great things to say about Moorhead.

Assuming he brings that same offense and those same philosophies to Penn State, I believe it will absolutely translate.

 

[Art]

It's not that we're impressed, it's that the guy has barely started and you're all over him. Yeah, the proof is gonna have to wait until September at the earliest but if you're gonna bash him over a Twitter feed in January......

All over him? My recall is not perfect, but my first response to the OP of this thread is likely the first comment I've made about the hire. if that's "all over him" then guilty as charged.

 

[Nitt1300]

I implied nothing of the sort. I simply indicated that his success at Fordham was not a guarantee that he will succeed at PSU, nothing more. Unfortunately, some people believe that if you don't automatically give a standing ovation to everything done within or by the coaching staff you're forecasting doom

You seemed to be implying something else. Perhaps I misunderstood. My only point was that a track record of success at one level is a decent indicator of what we might expect at the next.

 

[JayWye]

Performance first, mouth second.

Have to laugh at some of these responses...they're the same guys who'd be squalling if the staff didn't use social media.

 

[Art]

Art did you get lost along the way or just having a bad day?

Actually I was having a perfectly fine day until I started to be excoriated for not providing Moorhead with a resounding and unreserved endorsement. Sorry, but I need to see more than he presents on his resume before I do that.

 

[Woodpecker]

I get that, sort of. Then the question is who is the target audience? Fans? No harm, no foul. Recruits? I understand the approach, I question the medium. it's out there for the folks he's recruiting against to see. To me, that's like flipping your hole cards when they're dealt. Not the best strategy under most circumstances.

And I get what you're saying, sort of, as well. But I don't think this tweet, in and of itself, reveals too much of his strategy. I don't think he's flipping his hole cards as much as showing others at the table that he's anteing up.

 

[KC-KS-Lion]

"many of the things that are obvious to many of the fans" the fans are wrong about.

With such a large and vocal fan base, Penn State has more than its share of clueless fans.
At the same time, with such a rich history of sustained success (not to mention the importance of high school and pro football in its region), it has more than its share of fans that get it sooner than later.
The message board represents both groups. There are many many more that do not post.
Time will tell, but even for some time will not provide additional clarity.

 

[Art]

You seemed to be implying something else. Perhaps I misunderstood. My only point was that a track record of success at one level is a decent indicator of what we might expect at the next.

One would generally not hire people with an unbroken record of failure, but keep in mind that most of the guys fired for lack of performance succeeded in a previous incarnation.