Moving people around?

[Harrisburg Dave]

Coach Franklin stated in his press conference that he was “moving people around”.

So who do you think he is moving around?

Are they moving for depth reasons, or performance reasons?

Will the moving take place on defense or offense?

Micah Parsons? Our defensive ends were tossed around by Buffalo. To get a pass rush do we put Micah at his natural position?

DT was another spot that could have used improvement. Does Thorpe go back there? Wallace steps up to provide depth on OL and Miranda starts on OL?

Are there some injuries that we don’t know about? Does Kuntz go to wr? How about Ford?

 

[Thomas1945]

Coach Franklin stated in his press conference that he was “moving people around”.

So who do you think he is moving around?

Are they moving for depth reasons, or performance reasons?

Will the moving take place on defense or offense?

Micah Parsons? Our defensive ends were tossed around by Buffalo. To get a pass rush do we put Micah at his natural position?

DT was another spot that could have used improvement. Does Thorpe go back there? Wallace steps up to provide depth on OL and Miranda starts on OL?

Are there some injuries that we don’t know about? Does Kuntz go to wr? How about Ford?

Isn’t it a little early in the morning for amphetamine consumption?

 

[ThePennsyOracle]

Coach Franklin stated in his press conference that he was “moving people around”.

So who do you think he is moving around?

Are they moving for depth reasons, or performance reasons?

Will the moving take place on defense or offense?

Micah Parsons? Our defensive ends were tossed around by Buffalo. To get a pass rush do we put Micah at his natural position?

DT was another spot that could have used improvement. Does Thorpe go back there? Wallace steps up to provide depth on OL and Miranda starts on OL?

Are there some injuries that we don’t know about? Does Kuntz go to wr? How about Ford?

Have you ever been in a Turkish prison?

 

[uPBRmeASAP]

Coach Franklin stated in his press conference that he was “moving people around”.

So who do you think he is moving around?

Are they moving for depth reasons, or performance reasons?

Will the moving take place on defense or offense?

Micah Parsons? Our defensive ends were tossed around by Buffalo. To get a pass rush do we put Micah at his natural position?

DT was another spot that could have used improvement. Does Thorpe go back there? Wallace steps up to provide depth on OL and Miranda starts on OL?

Are there some injuries that we don’t know about? Does Kuntz go to wr? How about Ford?

I don’t think it’s anything major. Franklin said right after the game that they will look to find a replacement for Reid in the nickel because Buffalo was trying to exploit the matchups on the outside with the 3rd corner in nickel defense.

 

[Harrisburg Dave]

Isn’t it a little early in the morning for amphetamine consumption?

It’s never too early.

 

[Harrisburg Dave]

Have you ever been in a Turkish prison?

I was a beast in Mamek. Don’t f with me.

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

He's moving the OL to the DL and the LBs to the Corner Positions and moving the Safeties to the Running Back positions and visa versa in all cases. Flipping the special teams kickoff and return and Stout and Clifford will switch positions.... that is the rumor on the street.

 

[LaJolla Lion]

 

[PearlSUJam]

Coach Franklin stated in his press conference that he was “moving people around”.

So who do you think he is moving around?

Are they moving for depth reasons, or performance reasons?

Will the moving take place on defense or offense?

Micah Parsons? Our defensive ends were tossed around by Buffalo. To get a pass rush do we put Micah at his natural position?

DT was another spot that could have used improvement. Does Thorpe go back there? Wallace steps up to provide depth on OL and Miranda starts on OL?

Are there some injuries that we don’t know about? Does Kuntz go to wr? How about Ford?

Second post on this? He did away with the Star position on the latest depth chart. Do you look at the depth chart?

 

[Harrisburg Dave]

Second post on this? He did away with the Star position on the latest depth chart. Do you look at the depth chart?

He's moving the OL to the DL and the LBs to the Corner Positions and moving the Safeties to the Running Back positions and visa versa in all cases. Flipping the special teams kickoff and return and Stout and Clifford will switch positions.... that is the rumor on the street.

Did someone piss in your cereal this morning?

It you want to be a smart ass it would help if you posted something smart.

 

[Harrisburg Dave]

Second post on this? He did away with the Star position on the latest depth chart. Do you look at the depth chart?

Yes, and I may make a third post so look for it since you are apparently keeping a tally sheet for some reason.

 

[BBrown]

Coach Franklin stated in his press conference that he was “moving people around”.

So who do you think he is moving around?

Are they moving for depth reasons, or performance reasons?

Will the moving take place on defense or offense?

Micah Parsons? Our defensive ends were tossed around by Buffalo. To get a pass rush do we put Micah at his natural position?

DT was another spot that could have used improvement. Does Thorpe go back there? Wallace steps up to provide depth on OL and Miranda starts on OL?

Are there some injuries that we don’t know about? Does Kuntz go to wr? How about Ford?

Thorpe is not going to DL unless there are a lot of injuries.

And I do not understand some posters infatuation with moving Parsons to DE. The same posters that want to do this are the same ones that bitch about Shaka Toney not being "big" enough. Take a look at the heights and weights. They are virtually identical (albeit if the roster is accurate).

 

[PearlSUJam]

Yes, and I may make a third post so look for it since you are apparently keeping a tally sheet for some reason.

Can we hug it out?

 

[BBG65]

Thorpe is not going to DL unless there are a lot of injuries.

And I do not understand some posters infatuation with moving Parsons to DE. The same posters that want to do this are the same ones that bitch about Shaka Toney not being "big" enough. Take a look at the heights and weights. They are virtually identical (albeit if the roster is accurate).

I don't want Parsons moved to DE, but I do think Shaka Toney's lack of size affects his play at DE or maybe, it's just his technique of lining up wide and taking an outside rush nearly every play.

 

[83wuzme]

The PSU site doesn’t even have the depth chart available now.
The Buffalo QB already looks like an NFL prospect ; he gets rid of the ball quickly and some of the throws he made were phenomenal. I rewatched the game and we were getting pressure, but credit the Buffalo QB and OC for finding ways to get the ball out fast enough to nullify our rush.

 

[BBrown]

I don't want Parsons moved to DE, but I do think Shaka Toney's lack of size affects his play at DE or maybe, it's just his technique of lining up wide and taking an outside rush nearly every play.

Absolutely agree. I may not be thrilled with how Pry is using Parsons, right now, but moving him to DE would be supremely stupid. It would mean a wasted year and a half at LB'r and he's the same freaking size as Toney.
I thought Shane Simmons was our best DE on Sat. night and hope he see's a lot more action. Hopefully they are just being cautious with him because of past injuries.

 

[Thomas1945]

The PSU site doesn’t even have the depth chart available now.
The Buffalo QB already looks like an NFL prospect ; he gets rid of the ball quickly and some of the throws he made were phenomenal. I rewatched the game and we were getting pressure, but credit the Buffalo QB and OC for finding ways to get the ball out fast enough to nullify our rush.

Creative coaching is something I suspect we need not fear in this weeks opponent.

 

[cjrugger]

Coach Franklin stated in his press conference that he was “moving people around”.

So who do you think he is moving around?

Are they moving for depth reasons, or performance reasons?

Will the moving take place on defense or offense?

Micah Parsons? Our defensive ends were tossed around by Buffalo. To get a pass rush do we put Micah at his natural position?

DT was another spot that could have used improvement. Does Thorpe go back there? Wallace steps up to provide depth on OL and Miranda starts on OL?

Are there some injuries that we don’t know about? Does Kuntz go to wr? How about Ford?

Yes. All of the above. And maybe more to come

 

[KnightWhoSaysNit]

Watching the Buffalo recording again I think we have several issues on defense:

• One problem with size at DE -- easily solved by matching the people to the situation -- so maybe that is part of "moving people around"
• Several linebackers (not to include Johnson) who are unsure of themselves
• Pass coverage problems at safety
• Lack of experienced depth at corner

The celebrating after making a routine play on defense, particularly by certain safeties, is troubling. Not sure what it indicates, but I do know that such behavior in the past was not something we saw from players who really knew their positions well. My guess is that there is a different emphasis in coaching, going all the way back to when these kids were in middle school.

On offense, until we have a staple of high percentage plays that keep defenses honest (e.g., RB screens, quick slants, etc.) we're going to continue to put more pressure on our defense, and our OL will look bad no matter how we shuffle players. We need deep throws to keep DBs honest, but the same applies to the front seven. If a play is slow to develop it should come with the potential for a big gain.

One thing I noticed when the TV cameras isolated on coverages was that our receivers did not work very hard to get open, and they did not come back to provide a short outlet for Clifford when he had time. Guess they expect the QB to run downfield.

I could not watch the end of that game without once again noticing the complete disregard for protecting our starting quarterback. If we don't want Clifford running the ball on meaningless plays then why are we even calling for a run option? I see the coming of Trace McSorley Version 2. Get beat up to the point of losing your passing ability, then leave all bewildered about what is going wrong. Clifford and Levis, like Stevens (out hurt again) and McSorley (who played hurt), want to show that they are tough. At that age they won't adequately weigh the risks. This is a coaching issue on several levels.

 

[cjrugger]

Watching the Buffalo recording again I think we have several issues on defense:

• One problem with size at DE -- easily solved by matching the people to the situation -- so maybe that is part of "moving people around"
• Several linebackers (not to include Johnson) who are unsure of themselves
• Pass coverage problems at safety
• Lack of experienced depth at corner

The celebrating after making a routine play on defense, particularly by certain safeties, is troubling. Not sure what it indicates, but I do know that such behavior in the past was not something we saw from players who really knew their positions well. My guess is that there is a different emphasis in coaching, going all the way back to when these kids were in middle school.

On offense, until we have a staple of high percentage plays that keep defenses honest (e.g., RB screens, quick slants, etc.) we're going to continue to put more pressure on our defense, and our OL will look bad no matter how we shuffle players. We need deep throws to keep DBs honest, but the same applies to the front seven. If a play is slow to develop it should come with the potential for a big gain.

One thing I noticed when the TV cameras isolated on coverages was that our receivers did not work very hard to get open, and they did not come back to provide a short outlet for Clifford when he had time. Guess they expect the QB to run downfield.

I could not watch the end of that game without once again noticing the complete disregard for protecting our starting quarterback. If we don't want Clifford running the ball on meaningless plays then why are we even calling for a run option? I see the coming of Trace McSorley Version 2. Get beat up to the point of losing your passing ability, then leave all bewildered about what is going wrong. Clifford and Levis, like Stevens (out hurt again) and McSorley (who played hurt), want to show that they are tough. At that age they won't adequately weigh the risks. This is a coaching issue on several levels.

Out of curiosity, what is your prediction for our record at the end of the year?

 

[Harrisburg Dave]

Absolutely agree. I may not be thrilled with how Pry is using Parsons, right now, but moving him to DE would be supremely stupid. It would mean a wasted year and a half at LB'r and he's the same freaking size as Toney.
I thought Shane Simmons was our best DE on Sat. night and hope he see's a lot more action. Hopefully they are just being cautious with him because of past injuries.

I am not saying Micah is going to be moved.

However, he can play DE for me whenever he wants to. He has strength and power unlike anyone on that front seven. It’s a shame he does not get in more schemes that place him closer to the line of scrimmage. Saving him a couple steps and fighting thru traffic would produce huge dividends.

 

[BBrown]

Watching the Buffalo recording again I think we have several issues on defense:

• One problem with size at DE -- easily solved by matching the people to the situation -- so maybe that is part of "moving people around"
• Several linebackers (not to include Johnson) who are unsure of themselves
• Pass coverage problems at safety
• Lack of experienced depth at corner

The celebrating after making a routine play on defense, particularly by certain safeties, is troubling. Not sure what it indicates, but I do know that such behavior in the past was not something we saw from players who really knew their positions well. My guess is that there is a different emphasis in coaching, going all the way back to when these kids were in middle school.

On offense, until we have a staple of high percentage plays that keep defenses honest (e.g., RB screens, quick slants, etc.) we're going to continue to put more pressure on our defense, and our OL will look bad no matter how we shuffle players. We need deep throws to keep DBs honest, but the same applies to the front seven. If a play is slow to develop it should come with the potential for a big gain.

One thing I noticed when the TV cameras isolated on coverages was that our receivers did not work very hard to get open, and they did not come back to provide a short outlet for Clifford when he had time. Guess they expect the QB to run downfield.

I could not watch the end of that game without once again noticing the complete disregard for protecting our starting quarterback. If we don't want Clifford running the ball on meaningless plays then why are we even calling for a run option? I see the coming of Trace McSorley Version 2. Get beat up to the point of losing your passing ability, then leave all bewildered about what is going wrong. Clifford and Levis, like Stevens (out hurt again) and McSorley (who played hurt), want to show that they are tough. At that age they won't adequately weigh the risks. This is a coaching issue on several levels.

Interesting. I had a completely different take from being at the game and re -watching it. I thought our WR's were running pretty free. They had no answer for Pat F, Hammler or Dotson.

Agree about the end of the game. It was just stupid to have Clifford still out there, especially after some of the shots he took.

 

[BBrown]

I am not saying Micah is going to be moved.

However, he can play DE for me whenever he wants to. He has strength and power unlike anyone on that front seven. It’s a shame he does not get in more schemes that place him closer to the line of scrimmage. Saving him a couple steps and fighting thru traffic would produce huge dividends.

Not that I don't completely disagree with you about him causing havoc on a blitz but is he really stronger than Shane Simmons or even YGM?

 

[NoVa Lion]

Yes, and I may make a third post so look for it since you are apparently keeping a tally sheet for some reason.

Pot calling the kettle black.

 

[Harrisburg Dave]

Not that I don't completely disagree with you about him causing havoc on a blitz but is he really stronger than Shane Simmons or even YGM?

Probably

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

Did someone piss in your cereal this morning?

It you want to be a smart ass it would help if you posted something smart.

First you need a mind to have a sense of humor. Work hard on the one and hope for a miracle.

 

[KnightWhoSaysNit]

Out of curiosity, what is your prediction for our record at the end of the year?

I don't bet on games and am not a prognosticator, nor am I part of the entertainment industry, so you probably won't see me making many predictions. I don't follow other teams closely enough to weigh their every strength and weakness.

My guess is that the line between 7-5 and 12-0 for a lot of teams, including PSU, is not as wide as it would seem. It's just not a statistically large sample for all but the most dominant of teams.

We play in a conference where the vast majority of teams could beat any other on any given week. Consequently, the little things, at every position, tend to matter.

Predictions are nothing but a source of entertainment, or perhaps bulletin board material.

 

[KnightWhoSaysNit]

Interesting. I had a completely different take from being at the game and re -watching it. I thought our WR's were running pretty free. They had no answer for Pat F, Hammler or Dotson.

If so, why did we not gash them in the first half?

 

[JayWye]

Coach Franklin stated in his press conference that he was “moving people around”.

So who do you think he is moving around?

Are they moving for depth reasons, or performance reasons?

Will the moving take place on defense or offense?

Micah Parsons? Our defensive ends were tossed around by Buffalo. To get a pass rush do we put Micah at his natural position?

DT was another spot that could have used improvement. Does Thorpe go back there? Wallace steps up to provide depth on OL and Miranda starts on OL?

Are there some injuries that we don’t know about? Does Kuntz go to wr? How about Ford?

Probably trying to get the Dooz to "chase ghosts"...

 

[cjrugger]

I don't bet on games and am not a prognosticator, nor am I part of the entertainment industry, so you probably won't see me making many predictions. I don't follow other teams closely enough to weigh their every strength and weakness.

My guess is that the line between 7-5 and 12-0 for a lot of teams, including PSU, is not as wide as it would seem. It's just not a statistically large sample for all but the most dominant of teams.

We play in a conference where the vast majority of teams could beat any other on any given week. Consequently, the little things, at every position, tend to matter.

Predictions are nothing but a source of entertainment, or perhaps bulletin board material.

Kind of amazed to hear you say a team that has
a) undersized DE's
b) bad LBs
c) bad Safeties
d) inexperienced CBs
e) bad OL
f) 'Coaching issues at many levels' can get to 7 wins. I was thinking 2-10

edit: sorry, forgot g) lazy WRs

 

[BBrown]

If so, why did we not gash them in the first half?

IDK maybe because we only had the ball for 17 plays? and on one of those Hammler dropped an easy first down.
Offense was not the problem in the first half.

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

If so, why did we not gash them in the first half?

Have you noticed all halves are not created equal....

 

[Shpsu]

Parsons does not have the strength or power to play DE in the B1G. He's not in high school anymore. Ditto on his measurables being the same as Toney's. He has the athleticism to play LB and just needs to read and react quicker.

 

[Harrisburg Dave]

Probably trying to get the Dooz to "chase ghosts"...

Possibly

 

[KnightWhoSaysNit]

Kind of amazed to hear you say a team that has
a) undersized DE's
b) bad LBs
c) bad Safeties
d) inexperienced CBs
e) bad OL
f) 'Coaching issues at many levels' can get to 7 wins. I was thinking 2-10

edit: sorry, forgot g) lazy WRs

As usual, what we have here is exaggeration. And it depends on your standards. For you they must be pretty low.

So let me spell it out in a little more depth for you:

• I said we have one undersized DE and that his play, for now, should be situational. That is not how he was used in this game.
• I did not say we had bad LBs, but I've noticed that some (two on the second team in particular) seem a bit tentative. I'd rather not use names, but if you watch the recordings closely you'll see who they are. They are still good athletes, but we have little experienced depth there. Jan Johnson is solid. Micah Parsons, when he learns a bit more, will be a star.
• I did not say we had bad safeties, though this to me is the weakest of our positional groups. I said we have problems with pass coverage, yet these same guys are the ones to do the showboating when they do make a play. Sorry, that is an issue.
• I did not say we had inexperienced CBs. I said we had inexperienced depth. If we view the position in terms of just the two starters it is perhaps one of our strongest positions, but that won't matter if the safeties don't match up. I think the results when we played nickle or substituted support this view.
• I did not say we had a bad OL. I said they would look bad if we did not run plays to keep the defense honest.
• I did not say coaching issues at many levels. I said coaching issues at several levels with regard to protecting the starting quarterback. So what are they (in my view)?
  • An offense that relies on running the quarterback (Franklin's preference, so be it)
  • Playing the starter when the contest has been decided, putting him at unnecessary risk. And by extension, losing an opportunity to prepare the backup should the starter get hurt (Franklin)
  • Calling plays at the end of the game with a QB run option (Rahne)
  • Clifford not making reads to protect himself, even after the game was in hand (assume Rahne)

Please. Don't force me to waste my time. If you're going to offer a rebuttal at least give it a half ass effort.

 

[Harrisburg Dave]

Parsons does not have the strength or power to play DE in the B1G. He's not in high school anymore. Ditto on his measurables being the same as Toney's. He has the athleticism to play LB and just needs to read and react quicker.

I disagree. Thats what makes the world go around.

 

[Kiber]

Regarding Parsons. .... I always think back to an old interview with Paterno. A reporter asked Paterno about getting a guy playing time, and putting him in a position to make plays.... Paterno responded that "Players make plays. It's amazing how a guy who is a player just seems to make plays. If he's on Defense he seems to make tackles, force turnovers and be around the ball. But you usually don't have to try to hard for the players, because players make plays".

Read into that what you want about Parsons.

 

[Harrisburg Dave]

Regarding Parsons. .... I always think back to an old interview with Paterno. A reporter asked Paterno about getting a guy playing time, and putting him in a position to make plays.... Paterno responded that "Players make plays. It's amazing how a guy who is a player just seems to make plays. If he's on Defense he seems to make tackles, force turnovers and be around the ball. But you usually don't have to try to hard for the players, because players make plays".

Read into that what you want about Parsons.

He makes plays.

 

[ILLINOISLION]

No way that Clifford should have been back on the field when we got the ball back with 4:54 left in the game.....up 25 pts (F O U R scores). And then we run him twice after coming out of the medical tent with a foot issue.....even if only a cramp? Stupid stupid stupid.

(Putting Levis in for only one play and only to take a knee was total bullshit by CJF.)

The showboating after making a play ABSOLUTELY needs to stop. Show some class.....make a play, help your opponent up, make another play.

 

[Harrisburg Dave]

No way that Clifford should have been back on the field when we got the ball back with 4:54 left in the game.....up 25 pts (F O U R scores). And then we run him twice after coming out of the medical tent with a foot issue.....even if only a cramp? Stupid stupid stupid.

(Putting Levis in for only one play and only to take a knee was total bullshit by CJF.)

The showboating after making a play ABSOLUTELY needs to stop. Show some class.....make a play, help your opponent up, make another play.

Wade was foolish with his posing. Freiermuth and his act after a td is another cringe moment.

Franklin should end the nonsense.

Now, get off my lawn.