My All-Americans

[KidNittany]

It's half-way through the season, here are the guys I see as AA at this juncture

125- Tomasello, Gilman, Megaludis, Dance, Klimara, McGhee, Bresser, Lambert
133- Garrett, Clark, Brewer, Richards, Conaway, Taylor, Hall, Saavedra
141- Heil, McKenna, Mecate, Jack, Ashnault, Bleise, Meredith, Preston
149- Retherford, Sorenson, Tsirtsis, Mayes, Henderson, Richardson, Pantaleo, Cobb
157- Martinez, Miller, Nolf, Brascetta, Gantt, Minotti, Bethea, Welch
165- Dieringer, B. Jordan, I/Z Jordan, Lewis, Wilson, McFadden, Rasheed, Staudenmayer
174- Nickal, Epperly, Ramos, Crutchmer, Realbuto, Hammond, Walters, Kent
184- Dean, Brown, Zillmer, Stauffer, Abounader, McCutcheon, Brooks, Ayala
197- McIntosh, Cox, Burak, Hartmann, Pfarr, Franklin, Wellington, Abro
HWT- Gwiazdowski, Snyder, Walz, Coon, Dhesi, Dejournette, Marsden, Hall

 

[Wrestler2u]

You think we'll only get 8AAs huh? Jimmy G won't rebound and NN won't return? I'll give you six if we stay away from injury.

 

[lockhavenlion3]

agre

You think we'll only get 8AAs huh? Jimmy G won't rebound and NN won't return? I'll give you six if we stay away from injury.

agree to an extent. think rasheed has to be much more consistent and conaway will need a good draw. not downing either, just don't think they're shoo-ins at this point. still a lot of time left.

 

[RoarLions1]

Bold move, posting an AA list in early January. Even with a full season of wrestling last year, and the best minds on the NCAA Committee seeding guys, 24 guys not seeded top-8 (that's 30%) made All-American, and 8 of those were unseeded (not in the top-16!). Good luck with your list.

 

[Onceafish]

agre

agree to an extent. think rasheed has to be much more consistent and conaway will need a good draw. not downing either, just don't think they're shoo-ins at this point. still a lot of time left.

I'm not predicting an AA finish yet, but I think Rasheed has been pretty damn consistent since the McFadden match. Especially for a freshman who didn't wrestle much during his red shirt year. All of his losses have been close ones to ranked opponents.

 

[lockhavenlion3]

I'm not predicting an AA finish yet, but I think Rasheed has been pretty damn consistent since the McFadden match. Especially for a freshman who didn't wrestle much during his red shirt year. All of his losses have been close ones to ranked opponents.

9-4 since mcfadden. take out 4-1 at nlo(not a tough open this year), that's 5-3. some good wins and some tough losses. that's inconsistency. he's young and showing signs. can be special, but not a shoo-in aa.......yet .

 

[NoVa Lion]

9-4 since mcfadden. take out 4-1 at nlo(not a tough open this year), that's 5-3. some good wins and some tough losses. that's inconsistency. he's young and showing signs. can be special, but not a shoo-in aa.......yet .

Actually, 6-3 since McFadden. The losses (WR rankings) to #13, #15 and redshirting Massa who was 2nd at the Scuffle and wins against #4, #18, #20 , & #22. Certainly not a shoo in to be an AA but better than you make it out once you look at the actual details of his wins and losses.

 

[Flying_Tiger]

After the top 3, it's a real crap shoot at 165. Right now I think Cory is part of a handful of guys that could place anywhere from mid AA to round of 12. That being said, I think he still has some upside that some of the others don't have.

 

[dunkej01]

After the top 3, it's a real crap shoot at 165. Right now I think Cory is part of a handful of guys that could place anywhere from mid AA to round of 12. That being said, I think he still has some upside that some of the others don't have.

If Rasheed gets the right/good/lucky seeding, not only could he get a few very valuable bonus points but the draw on the backside if favorable and w his development could put him into a very winnable R12 matchup.

His wins and losses have him in that 10-15 range if seeding was today.

Very fun to watch this play out

 

[lockhavenlion3]

Actually, 6-3 since McFadden. The losses (WR rankings) to #13, #15 and redshirting Massa who was 2nd at the Scuffle and wins against #4, #18, #20 , & #22. Certainly not a shoo in to be an AA but better than you make it out once you look at the actual details of his wins and losses.

so i was off by one win. so sorry. your breakdown is right on, good wins & tough losses. that's inconsistency. believe i said he was special. he has plenty of time for a consistent run, but he still has to do it. i think he will.

 

[Onceafish]

so i was off by one win. so sorry. your breakdown is right on, good wins & tough losses. that's inconsistency. believe i said he was special. he has plenty of time for a consistent run, but he still has to do it. i think he will.

Not to belabor the point (well, maybe to belabor it just a little ...)

He's wrestled seven matches against guys who haven't been ranked in the top 20 by Flo or Intermat this season and who aren't Logan Massa.

He's 7-0 in those matches with six bonus point wins and a win by injury default.

He has five losses to ranked guys (including Massa) - one by 3 points, two by 2 points, and one by 1 point.

He has no head-scratching losses, no ugly losses to quality opponents, no close wins over opponents he should have dominated.

If by "inconsistent," you mean he hasn't won every match like David Taylor or Ed Ruth, you have a point.

But by the conventional definition, he's been nothing but consistent.

 

[Annieat285]

To gauge Shakur's consistency by wins or losses is results oriented and not an accurate measurment of how well he is wrestling. Shakur has put out the same sort of effort each match, some time resulting in wins, other times in losses. He excels from scrambles, is dangerous from both top and on his feet. He has done an admirable job of getting out from what i can remember as well. Overall I'd say that when Shakur takes the mat, be it against Dieringer or someone unranked, you know what you're going to get. And that is explosiveness and excitement. Some of the aberrant behavior during the Massa match (being taken down due to adjusting headgear) certainly stands out, but it is far from alarming. If he continues to keep his weight under control during the long season (all signs indicate that he will) and works on improving in the room there is no reason to think that he won't be in a position to AA come March.

 

[jammenz]

Some of you may know that everybody predicts 60-70% of AA's correct, only getting 20-25% of the correct placements. Exhaustive analysis has shown that NCAA's is a crap shoot.

 

[El-Jefe]

Some of you may know that everybody predicts 60-70% of AA's correct, only getting 20-25% of the correct placements. Exhaustive analysis has shown that NCAA's is a crap shoot.

Speaking of NCAA predictions ...

 

[NoVa Lion]

so i was off by one win. so sorry. your breakdown is right on, good wins & tough losses. that's inconsistency. believe i said he was special. he has plenty of time for a consistent run, but he still has to do it. i think he will.

Wow, people sure seem to be getting testy here. So sorry that I offended you by posting the correct information.

 

[RoarLions1]

I know the NCAA looks at a "body of work", or the whole season. But anyone that's watched Shakur (Corey) every match can see he's not the same wrestler he was at the start of the season. Talking about his overall record is fine, but not pertinent to where he is today. It appears the injury and surgery last year put him behind, but he's learning rapidly...right before our eyes. The one area, imo, he'll need to improve, is getting out from bottom, but that will come.

Have no idea who will earn the spot at 165, might be Shakur, might be Morelli, might be Hammond. Are the coaches leaning a little? You tell me.

 

[Brian LB-U]

sorry, delete