I just happened to see on Intermat that senior James Hoeg (195 lb) from New York state just committed to PSU. Track has his record at 90-5 with 77 wins by bonus. He won a state title this year. He projects at 197.
New commit James Hoeg
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And the dynasty...
just.
got.
stronger.
just.
got.
stronger.
I don't know anything about the young man (calling nywrestler!) but I see he went TF, TF, TF , MD at the state tourny.
ALREADY BEATING RAPTOR IN THE ROOM!!!
HOEG MUST HIT THE WEIGHTS HARD !!!!
I watched three of his videos on flopro and didn't see any offense from his feet, but he was real tough on top - lots of cradles!
He'd have no choice but to improve on his feet in our room and I like any prospect that's comfortable mat wrestling before they get to college.
He'd have no choice but to improve on his feet in our room and I like any prospect that's comfortable mat wrestling before they get to college.
Word is Spyker donned one of his PSU singlets and made the trip to Mattituck to close the deal.
Fortunately, he has a clean singlet in case he is called upon on short notice to make a trip to Malvern or Montoursville.
No rest for the weary when the FULL COURT PRESS is on.
Fortunately, he has a clean singlet in case he is called upon on short notice to make a trip to Malvern or Montoursville.
No rest for the weary when the FULL COURT PRESS is on.
Depth is something PSU still has to develop, imo. Yes, the team won Nationals this year, but they could have broken the scoring record and maybe the number of titlists if they had been healthy or had stronger candidates to plug in when guys went down. Okay, not the titlist part - thinking you will have a backup that could be a national champ might be a little delusional. But I would still like to see some more depth. I know it's hard to do, but Hoeg looks to be a good room/depth guy.
Who is Raptor? He is supposed to be Martian. Some say his father was Human. Nobody believed he was real. Nobody ever saw him or knew anybody that ever wrestled him, but to hear Kobayashi tell it, anybody could have been Raptor. You never knew. That was his power.
One story the guys told me, the story I believe, was from his days on Earth ...
... And out comes a man from Mars
And you try to run but he's got a gun
And he shoots you dead and he eats your head
And then you're in the man from Mars
You go out at night, eatin' cars
You eat Cadillacs, Lincolns too
Mercuries and Subarus
And you don't stop, you keep on eatin' cars
Then, when there's no more cars
You go out at night and eat up bars where the people meet
Face to face, dance cheek to cheek
One to one, man to man
Dance toe to toe
Don't move too slow, 'cause the man from Mars
Is through with cars, he's eatin' bars
Yeah, wall to wall, door to door, Rec Hall to Hall
He's gonna eat 'em all
Raptor, be pure ...
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The problem is that with 9.9 scholarships, nobody has significant depth. PSU had Morelli and Rasheed in the upper weights, Moss for 141 and that is about it. Ohio St had nobody at 285 when Snyder was on international duty, nobody for 165 or 174 when BoJo was out. They did have Pletcher when Hayes went down.
Iowa had nothing when Stoll went down, etc. Oklahoma State probably has solid depth. The championship model now appears to be overwhelm the opposition with elite wrestles who score lots of bonus and go deep in the tournament.
Grateful we have more depth than at any time in our history, and, imo, more than any other team in the country right now.
Re. the "anytime in our history" comment, I took a little liberty there...I go back to '74, and the program started in 1909. Missing a couple years...
Healthy, perhaps. Get a title from Nails, get Cortez on the podium, a little more bonus, maybe.
Better depth? Flunks NCAA Tournament Math. Unless we have a bunch of top 4 finishers on the bench waiting their turn, depth won't directly help the team sniff the record.
... and certainly our current depth was more than sufficient for developing talent and reaching overall goals.
Suriano, Cortez, Cassar were out. They were ~replaced by nobody, non qualifier, Mouse [footnote]. I think Matter simply wishes that PSU had the choice to ~replace them instead by qualifier, qualifier, Mouse, with the two qualifiers able to score a few points at NCAA. That is greedy of matter, but not crazy greedy. Certainly, Matter (as characterized by me) is mathematically correct.
EDIT: OOPS. I just re-read the posts in question. You guys are talking about breaking the record this year. I had somehow mis-remembered Matter as just wanting a deeper team. I may be wrong, then, about mathematical correctness. I don't know what the record is nor how far away we were. Would the two extra qualifiers really have needed to each be top 4?
[footnote: Mouse might have beaten Cassar, anyhow]
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I like the idea of having NCAA qualifiers and potential AAs ready to go (assuming it can be worked within the 9.9 rides). Hello, James English.
But they're not enough to push the team from 146 to 170 points.
A healthy Nick Suriano winning the title and scoring 20+ pts gets us close. Two Corey Keeners coming off the bench to score maybe 8 pts total, won't.
[footnote: Mouse might have beaten Cassar, anyhow][/QUOTE]
Not to knock on any PSU wrestler, but I have seen NO evidence that Cassar would beat out Cutch. I know Cassar gets a lot of credit here for his freestyle results, however, can anyone give us (and I understand he has been hurt for a while so results are sparse) a quality win Cassar has had over anyone that was even an NCAA qualifier? I don't know of any. Whereas Cutch has beaten quite a few top 20 wrestlers and a number of top 10, enough to earn him the top 5 seed at NCAAs this past season.
Not to knock on any PSU wrestler, but I have seen NO evidence that Cassar would beat out Cutch. I know Cassar gets a lot of credit here for his freestyle results, however, can anyone give us (and I understand he has been hurt for a while so results are sparse) a quality win Cassar has had over anyone that was even an NCAA qualifier? I don't know of any. Whereas Cutch has beaten quite a few top 20 wrestlers and a number of top 10, enough to earn him the top 5 seed at NCAAs this past season.
Man Cael seems like he really loves Long Island
good for James, he comes from a deep wrestling family now I know 4 guys who wrestle/will wrestle for PSU
good for James, he comes from a deep wrestling family now I know 4 guys who wrestle/will wrestle for PSU If we can get Keener in our room he is going to do really well next season at Nationals...I think he knows this....He will be scoring a lot of points for himself and for our team !!!!
Man Cael seems like he really loves Long Island
Maybe it's time to stop rooting for tOSU and get on board the PSU train.
Man Cael seems like he really loves Long Island
Is that counting Teemer? Not Keener(Schuylkill Cty coal country not in NY)
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I believe depth is a two way street. The depth being talked about here is "next man up depth" stuff. 10 excellent wrestlers, with 10 really good ones behind them.
From a coaching perspective not a likely scenario as the really good ones would most likely receive more scholarship $ and a chance to start elsewhere. I believe our coaching staff realizes this and has determined that the depth they prefer is a quantity of good wrestlers that just welcome the opportunity to be in that environment and be part of something great. This quantity of fresh practice partners to push the starters in practice is the depth they really want. This is what pays dividends in the post season as the starters are pushed all year long. If you look at dicemen99's spreadsheet we'll have 37 wrestlers in the practice room (+or- depending on some variables like McCutcheon and recent addition rumors and not counting coaches and NLWC wrestlers.) Next year with those already committed that number swells to over 40. I doubt there are many other programs that can match such a strategic advantage where every practice has the potential to emulate a small tournament.
I think this advantage far outweighs any attempt to guess which starter might go down and having the next man up being nearly his equal. Just one more example of the fact that we are not only blessed with better leaders that are better recruiters and better instructors, but are way smarter strategically in providing our top wrestlers with advantages they need to outperform the competition when it counts.
Not to knock on any PSU wrestler, but I have seen NO evidence that Cassar would beat out Cutch. I know Cassar gets a lot of credit here for his freestyle results, however, can anyone give us (and I understand he has been hurt for a while so results are sparse) a quality win Cassar has had over anyone that was even an NCAA qualifier? I don't know of any. Whereas Cutch has beaten quite a few top 20 wrestlers and a number of top 10, enough to earn him the top 5 seed at NCAAs this past season.[/QUOTE]
The simple answer is there is no data. No Cassar NCAA results the last two years. Freestyle results are all there is, where he was a national junior champ. On the other hand McCutcheon scored 4 points at nationals this year. Not our strongest weight, but with a repaired shoulder Cassar would seem to have the better upside (but again it's an unknown).
The simple answer is there is no data. No Cassar NCAA results the last two years. Freestyle results are all there is, where he was a national junior champ. On the other hand McCutcheon scored 4 points at nationals this year. Not our strongest weight, but with a repaired shoulder Cassar would seem to have the better upside (but again it's an unknown).[/QUOTE]
Sorry, if already discussed, but has Cutch made a decision on returning next year?
Sorry, if already discussed, but has Cutch made a decision on returning next year?[/QUOTE]
I thought he was moving on based on reports, but at the year end banquet a couple weeks ago, he was not one of those announced as having finished his career. So I'd say the matter is still up in the air.
It was a Dunkej01 post: "Kade Moss announced and was recognized as a senior that is leaving. Cutch was not."
So make of it what you will.
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Cutch is graduating on time. He has been been accepted to a chiropractic medicine program. He initially was leaving.
I assume he is now probably staying for his 5th year.
He has the rest of his life to be a chiropractor, he has only one more chance to be an AA. To me it seems to be an easy choice.
I assume he is now probably staying for his 5th year.
He has the rest of his life to be a chiropractor, he has only one more chance to be an AA. To me it seems to be an easy choice.
yes, he is staying. friday he told us he was going to a chiropractic school in ga.
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