Next Steps - B1G Pre-seeds and Brackets

[RoarLions1]

Big Ten Wrestling Championships pre-seeds should be released tomorrow, Monday, March 4. Friday, March 8, late morning, to early afternoon (if history holds true) is the release date for the brackets.

 

[aalion]

and when is the Roar analysis of said brackets going to commence, and more importantly, be posted?

 

[RoarLions1]

and when is the Roar analysis of said brackets going to commence, and more importantly, be posted?

Ha. I'll just join in with everyone else . My work's done with the seeding analyses already posted...now waiting to see if the Big Ten gets it right .

 

[STAND with PRIDE]

Any word Roar??

 

[jmadden1998]

Pulled from Iowa’s website so that’s why Hawkeyes are in bold.

125 lbs.

1. Sebastian Rivera, NU
2. Spencer Lee, IOWA
3. Sean Russell, MINN
4. RayVon Foley, MSU
5. Travis Piotrowski, ILL
6. Drew Mattin, MICH
7. Zeke Moisey, NEB
8. Malik Heinselman, OSU
9. Devin Schroder, PUR
10. Elijah Oliver, IND
11. Brandon Cray, MD
12. Devin Schnupp, PSU
13. Shane Metzler, RU
14. Ethan Rotondo, WIS

133 lbs.

1. Stevan Micic, MICH
2. Austin DeSanto, IOWA
3. Nick Suriano, RU
4. Roman Bravo-Young, PSU
5. Luke Pletcher, OSU
6. Ethan Lizak, MINN
7. Ben Thornton, PUR
8. Dylan Duncan, ILL
9. Anthony Tutolo, MSU
10. Colin Valdiviez, NU
11. Jens Lantz, WIS
12. Paul Konrath, IND
13. Jevon Parrish, NEB
14. Orion Anderson, MD

141 lbs.

1. Michael Carr, ILL
2. Nick Lee, PSU
3. Joey McKenna, OSU
4. Tristan Moran, WIS
5. Kanen Storr, MICH
6. Mitch McKee, MINN
7. Max Murin, IOWA
8. Chad Red, NEB
9. Pete Lipari, RU
10. Nate Limmex, PUR
11. Kyle Luigs, IND
12. Austin Eicher, MSU
13. Danny Bertoni, MD
14. Alec McKenna, NU

149 lbs.

1. Anthony Ashnault, RU
2. Micah Jordan, OSU
3. Pat Lugo, IOWA
4. Thomas Thorn, MINN
5. Cole Martin, WIS
6. Brady Berge, PSU
7. Shayne Oster, NU
8. Malik Amine, MICH

157 lbs.

1. Jason Nolf, PSU
2. Tyler Berger, NEB
3. Ryan Deakin, NU
4. Alec Pantaleo, MICH
5. Kaleb Young, IOWA
6. Steve Bleis, MINN
7. Ke-Shawn Hayes, OSU
8. Eric Barone, ILL
9. Griffin Parriott, PUR
10. John Van Brill, RU
11. Jake Danishek, IND
12. Jake Tucker, MSU
13. Garret Model, WIS
14. Alex Whitesell, MD

165 lbs.

1. Vincenzo Joseph, PSU
2. Alex Marinelli, IOWA
3. Evan Wick, WIS
4. Isaiah White, NEB
5. Logan Massa, MICH
6. Te'Shawn Campbell, OSU
7. Bryce Martin, IND
8. Carson Brolsma, MINN
9. Joseph Gunter, ILL
10. Tyler Morland, NU
11. Phillip Spadafora, MD
12. Stephan Glasgow, RU
13. Austin Hiles, MSU
14. Cole Wysocki, PUR

174 lbs.

1. Mark Hall, PSU
2. Myles Amine, MICH
3. Dylan Lydy, PUR
4. Mikey Labriola, NEB
5. Devin Skatzka, MINN
6. Ethan Smith, OSU
7. Ryan Christensen, WIS
8. Drew Hughes, MSU
9. Joe Grello, RU
10. Mitch Bowman, IOWA
11. Carver James, ILL
12. Jake Covaciu, IND
13. Josh Ugalde, MD
14. Braxton Cody, NU

184 lbs.

1. Myles Martin, OSU
2. Shakur Rasheed, PSU
3. Tyler Venz, NEB
4. Emery Parker, ILL
5. Cash Wilcke, IOWA
6. Mason Reinhardt, WIS
7. Jelani Embree, MICH
8. Max Lyon, PUR
9. Nick Gravina, RU
10. Cameron Caffey, MSU
11. Norman Conley, IND
12. Brandon Krone, MINN
13. Kyle Jasenski, MD
14. Brendan Devine, NU

197 lbs.

1. Bo Nickal, PSU
2. Kollin Moore, OSU
3. Jacob Warner, IOWA
4. Christian Brunner, PUR
5. Eric Schultz, NEB
6. Jackson Striggow, MICH
7. Dylan Anderson, MINN
8. Brad Wilton, MSU

285 lbs.

1. Gable Steveson, MINN
2. Anthony Cassar, PSU
3. Mason Parris, MICH
4. Trent Hilger, WIS
5. Chase Singletary, OSU
6. Conan Jennings, NU
7. David Jensen, NEB
8. Sam Stoll, IOWA

 

[dmm53]

Here is the link for the pre-seeds if you want the article and pre-seeds in one location:

https://bigten.org/news/2019/3/4/big-ten-wrestling-pre-seeds-announced.aspx

 

[PSU22]

Rasheed at 2

 

[dmm53]

Shakur with the #2. Cenzo with #1. Nick Lee with #2. RBY with #4. Berge with #6.

The rest as expected: #1s for Nolf, Hall, Nickal. Cassar with #2. Schnupp #12.

 

[breno14]

I can't complain about any of our seedings.

 

[Maddog]

Here is the link for the pre-seeds if you want the article and pre-seeds in one location:

https://bigten.org/news/2019/3/4/big-ten-wrestling-pre-seeds-announced.aspx

I thought they only seeded all 14 if the conference had 9 or more allocations. Seems they seeded to 14 for weights with 8 or more. We may have as few as 2 guys wrestling in the first round depending how the random draws come out for 149, 197, and 285.

 

[dmm53]

Tournament information (start times, stats, standings, streaming, etc.):

https://bigten.org/sports/2019/1/29/WREST_CHAMPS_19.aspx

 

[jschrantz]

Don’t quit your day job @WrestlingNomad. On second thought, maybe go ahead

 

[dmm53]

I thought they only seeded all 14 if the conference had 9 or more allocations. Seems they seeded to 14 for weights with 8 or more. We may have as few as 2 guys wrestling in the first round depending how the random draws come out for 149, 197, and 285.

Hmm. Not sure. Here is the information via FLO:

The seeding meeting will be Friday afternoon, so any changes to the pre-seeds will be known by the evening of the eighth. Pre-seeds can only be changed if the athletes are within three points of each other. These pre-seeds are the result of aggregating a poll from each of the 14 Big Ten head coaches.

Seeds are based on allocation numbers. If a weight has 8 or fewer auto qualifier spots, the seeding goes to eight. If a weight has 9 or more, then all 14 entrants are seeded.

 

[dmm53]

"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future." (Niels Bohr).

 

[ss7]

Lee vs McKenna Saturday night...

We'll see if McKenna's gas tank issues were temporary or not.

 

[a_mshaffer]

seeds seem OK. I think PSU will be challenged to wrestle above their seeds in total. Things don't go perfect at Bigs like they do in NCAA.

 

[nitlion6]

Lee vs McKenna Saturday night...

We'll see if McKenna's gas tank issues were temporary or not.

I expect a much better conditioned McKenna, but the two issues Joey will have to deal with are his weight will need to be still managed due to Sunday AM weigh-ins and Nick can make just about anybody look tired towards the end of their match.
Nick wins this match again.

 

[NoVa Lion]

seeds seem OK. I think PSU will be challenged to wrestle above their seeds in total. Things don't go perfect at Bigs like they do in NCAA.

With 4 #1 and 3 #2 seeds it will be pretty hard to wrestle above our seeds. Not impossible but difficult.

 

[Cowbell Man]

I expect a much better conditioned McKenna, but the two issues Joey will have to deal with are his weight will need to be still managed due to Sunday AM weigh-ins and Nick can make just about anybody look tired towards the end of their match.
Nick wins this match again.

Nick wins again, but unless McKenna has regressed, his gas tank was loaded at full for the match with Yianni

 

[dunkej01]

Please and Thank you to the person(s) who posts a team race projection based on these seeds.

 

[4INSBU]

Please and Thank you to the person(s) who posts a team race projection based on these seeds.

It’s on Flo.

 

[RoarLions1]

I thought they only seeded all 14 if the conference had 9 or more allocations. Seems they seeded to 14 for weights with 8 or more. We may have as few as 2 guys wrestling in the first round depending how the random draws come out for 149, 197, and 285.

I thought they should have done this other years.

To get to 9th place, the four guys that lost in the second round of wrestlebacks were placed, by seed, in a mini four-man tournament. Guys that lost in the first round of wrestlebacks (two matches) were eliminated. The cleanest way to place the four is if everyone knows their seed (transparency). Highest seed meets lowest seed, middle two seeds meet, then the winner between the two takes 9th. No team scoring during this process.

 

[SLUPSU]

Please and Thank you to the person(s) who posts a team race projection based on these seeds.

how about this guy? @Unbiased_football_fan

https://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threads/probability-of-winning.169326/#post-2690608

 

[RoarLions1]

Please and Thank you to the person(s) who posts a team race projection based on these seeds.

Checked Flo's work...without bonus pts;

PSU 141.5
OSU 105.5
MICH 102
IOWA 99
MINN 87
NEB 75
WIS 59
ILL 50.5
NU 47
PUR 37
RU 36.5
MSU 24.5
IND 11.5
MD 2

 

[SWPA]

Checked Flo's work...without bonus pts;

PSU 141.5
OSU 105.5
MICH 102
IOWA 99
MINN 87
NEB 75
WIS 59
ILL 50.5
NU 47
PUR 37
RU 36.5
MSU 24.5
IND 11.5
MD 2

Someone post this on HR, not it.

 

[BruceK-PSU83]

Lee vs McKenna Saturday night...

We'll see if McKenna's gas tank issues were temporary or not.

Apparently you didn’t see the McKenna-Yianni bout in the recent tOSU-Cornell dual.

 

[nitlion6]

Checked Flo's work...without bonus pts;

PSU 141.5
OSU 105.5
MICH 102
IOWA 99
MINN 87
NEB 75
WIS 59
ILL 50.5
NU 47
PUR 37
RU 36.5
MSU 24.5
IND 11.5
MD 2

Any idea what all time Big10 team scoring record is?

 

[RoarLions1]

Any idea what all time Big10 team scoring record is?

200. Iowa (1983). Won by 118.5 points over the 2nd place team. The days of that level of separation are long gone. Not everyone realizes it yet.

 

[NoVa Lion]

200. Iowa (1983). Won by 118.5 points over the 2nd place team. The days of that level of separation are long gone. Not everyone realizes it yet.

If you had 10 champs they would score 190 points so you need 10 bonus points on top of 10 champs to reach 200 points. WOW.

 

[RoarLions1]

If you had 10 champs they would score 190 points so you need 10 bonus points on top of 10 champs to reach 200 points. WOW.

They had nine champs and a 4th place finisher.

Oh, and the tournament was at Iowa that year.

 

[nitlion6]

200. Iowa (1983). Won by 118.5 points over the 2nd place team. The days of that level of separation are long gone. Not everyone realizes it yet.

There is going to be a tight assed contest for second. Right now I have OSU, Mich and Iowa bunched together for 2, 3 and 4 and maybe 5 or 6 points being the difference between 2 and 4. The seperation between 1 and 2 is going to be significant, but 118.5 points makes my head hurt trying to imagine it.

Thanks for the numbers.

 

[kingslayer_85]

There is going to be a tight assed contest for second. Right now I have OSU, Mich and Iowa bunched together for 2, 3 and 4 and maybe 5 or 6 points being the difference between 2 and 4. The seperation between 1 and 2 is going to be significant, but 118.5 points makes my head hurt trying to imagine it.

Thanks for the numbers.

no one ever remembers who came second.

 

[matwizard09]

200. Iowa (1983). Won by 118.5 points over the 2nd place team. The days of that level of separation are long gone. Not everyone realizes it yet.

Obviously it was a different time and I hate giving any credit to Iowa (kidding mostly) but holy cow that is just insane

 

[nitlion6]

no one ever remembers who came second.

Rumor has it if Iowa can finally manage a second at Big10s or NCAAs Iowa City is shutting down for a celebration parade.

 

[Used2BEerie]

no one ever remembers who came second.

My wife does.