Nick Nevills

[Ja1339]

Was just looking at the HWT rankings in Intermat. I'm thrilled how well Nick's season has gone so far, but also amazed at the difficult schedule he has this season. Before the post season starts, he'll probably have faced 6 top 10 wrestlers and 10 top 20 wrestlers.

He's already faced #8 Kroells, #10 Butler, #13 Dejournette, #15 Jensen, #18 Vollaro. In a three week stretch he has #6 Stoll, #2 Medbery, #1 Snyder, and#17 Black. In the Dual series he could face #3 Walz or #9 Schaefer.

He will certainly be well tested going into B10 tourney. How does everyone think he'll fare against the top guys? And is this about where you expected he'd be pre injury?

 

[GOLDBANGER]

Was just looking at the HWT rankings in Intermat. I'm thrilled how well Nick's season has gone so far, but also amazed at the difficult schedule he has this season. Before the post season starts, he'll probably have faced 6 top 10 wrestlers and 10 top 20 wrestlers.

He's already faced #8 Kroells, #10 Butler, #13 Dejournette, #15 Jensen, #18 Vollaro. In a three week stretch he has #6 Stoll, #2 Medbery, #1 Snyder, and#17 Black. In the Dual series he could face #3 Walz or #9 Schaefer.

He will certainly be well tested going into B10 tourney. How does everyone think he'll fare against the top guys? And is this about where you expected he'd be pre injury?

I think he is right where I thought he could be, he looked, to me, fearful to aggravate his injury last year. A few things we know 1) He ain't beatin' Snyder, 2) Most likely not beating Medbery, 3) May be able to beat Walz, 4) All the others are beatable for him.

 

[diggerpup]

I'd be shocked if he wasn't wrestling in the quarters Friday afternoon at NCAAs.

He's been great this year.

 

[LemonPie]

Just want him to beat Stoll

 

[matter7172]

I think he is one of the top, if not the top, hwt wrestler in the top position (yeah, I know). It is a huge advantage. I wouldn't be surprised to see him opposite Snyder in the finals as a best case. AA at worst.

 

[diggerpup]

So, what's going to happen with B1G seeds this year at heavyweight ?

Wisconsin wrestled Ohio St this past Friday and Snyder wasn't around to wrestle Medbury.

So, if Medbury wins out, he should get the 1-seed and Snyder the 2-seed ?

I guess the battle for B1Gs is for 3rd place anyway between Nevills, Stoll & Kroells, so Snyder's part-time hobby shouldn't be too much of an influence on seeding and outcome for Nevills, Stoll & Kroells.


Thoughts?

 

[El-Jefe]

I think he is one of the top, if not the top, hwt wrestler in the top position (yeah, I know). It is a huge advantage. I wouldn't be surprised to see him opposite Snyder in the finals as a best case. AA at worst.

I'd want to see him vs. Medbery and Stoll before thinking NCAA Finals. Also NCAA seeding, optimally avoiding Snyder.

 

[El-Jefe]

So, what's going to happen with B1G seeds this year at heavyweight ?

Wisconsin wrestled Ohio St this past Friday and Snyder wasn't around to wrestle Medbury.

So, if Medbury wins out, he should get the 1-seed and Snyder the 2-seed ?

I guess the battle for B1Gs is for 3rd place anyway between Nevills, Stoll & Kroells, so Snyder's part-time hobby shouldn't be too much of an influence on seeding and outcome for Nevills, Stoll & Kroells.


Thoughts?

#1 vs. #2 B10 seeds depend on whether they go by math or by eye test (or if they give Snyder extra credit as defending national champ). Math says Medbery, eyes say Snyder.

Here are the B10 standings right now, plus remaining matches:
1. Medbery, 14-0, 2-0. Remaining: Jensen, Kroells, Nevills, Stoll.
2. Snyder, 4-0, 0-0. Remaining: some combination of Black, Stoll, Nevills, Jensen, Kroells. I suspect he'll see Stoll and Nevills -- Ryan probably believes they can beat Iowa and PSU with Snyder.
3. Nevills, 10-0, 2-0. Remaining: Stoll, Medbery, Snyder, Black.
4. Stoll, 7-1, 2-0. Remaining: Nevills, Snyder, Medbery, Kroells, Jensen.
5. Kroells, 18-6, 2-1. Remaining: Medbery, Jensen, Stoll, Snyder.

(OK, technically Snyder is probably something like 11th in the conference standings, but really.)

 

[RoarLions1]

Pretty sure Snyder will get the #1 seed. Hopefully he gets 8 matches in or the Big Ten will lose an auto-qualifier spot.

 

[nitlion6]

My thoughts are I am anxious to see Nick wrestle Stoll and Medberry.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Pretty sure Snyder will get the #1 seed. Hopefully he gets 8 matches in or the Big Ten will lose an auto-qualifier spot.

Didn't that happen last year? If so, wouldn't it be awesome if Ryan and Snyder screw someone in the Big 10 heavy class again? Thanks Tom.

 

[RoarLions1]

Didn't that happen last year? If so, wouldn't it be awesome if Ryan and Snyder screw someone in the Big 10 heavy class again? Thanks Tom.

Yeah, Snyder only had 3 bouts heading into Big Ten's, so he did not earn a slot. Didn't matter in the end, since Stoll was an at-large selection. No one was "screwed".

 

[papa_ed]

Definitely excited about Nick wrestling Medbury (sp?) and Stoll, I think he will end up top 6 after it's all said and done, hoping for 2nd or 3rd. I just can't see him, or anyone beating Snyder, hope I'm wrong, that's why they wrestle on the mats and not on paper.

 

[Real-Lion]

Definitely excited about Nick wrestling Medbury (sp?) and Stoll, I think he will end up top 6 after it's all said and done, hoping for 2nd or 3rd. I just can't see him, or anyone beating Snyder, hope I'm wrong, that's why they wrestle on the mats and not on paper.

Nick is a BEAST this year...He pounded the weights during the off season. Lifts during the season as well. He is on a mission....Carrying himself like a full grown man now which you must be at HWT !!!!

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Definitely excited about Nick wrestling Medbury (sp?) and Stoll, I think he will end up top 6 after it's all said and done, hoping for 2nd or 3rd. I just can't see him, or anyone beating Snyder, hope I'm wrong, that's why they wrestle on the mats and not on paper.

He needs to avoid that 8 seed which he is perfectly capable of doing.

 

[tomsc]

Pretty sure Snyder will get the #1 seed. Hopefully he gets 8 matches in or the Big Ten will lose an auto-qualifier spot.

Do the 8 matches need to be pre-B1G, or do they include the B1G tourney?

 

[NoVa Lion]

Do the 8 matches need to be pre-B1G, or do they include the B1G tourney?

Number of NCAA slots is determined prior to the conference tournaments so they need to be pre-BIGs.

 

[NoVa Lion]

Was just looking at the HWT rankings in Intermat. I'm thrilled how well Nick's season has gone so far, but also amazed at the difficult schedule he has this season. Before the post season starts, he'll probably have faced 6 top 10 wrestlers and 10 top 20 wrestlers.

He's already faced #8 Kroells, #10 Butler, #13 Dejournette, #15 Jensen, #18 Vollaro. In a three week stretch he has #6 Stoll, #2 Medbery, #1 Snyder, and#17 Black. In the Dual series he could face #3 Walz or #9 Schaefer.

He will certainly be well tested going into B10 tourney. How does everyone think he'll fare against the top guys? And is this about where you expected he'd be pre injury?

This is where I thought he'd be at the beginning of the season, which is why I have him in LMS.

 

[CowboyUp61]

Just since no one has done it yet, I think Nevills points can make sure Hall's shirt stays on.

 

[RoarLions1]

Pretty sure Snyder will get the #1 seed. Hopefully he gets 8 matches in or the Big Ten will lose an auto-qualifier spot.

Do the 8 matches need to be pre-B1G, or do they include the B1G tourney?

Number of NCAA slots is determined prior to the conference tournaments so they need to be pre-BIGs.

NoVa is correct for pre-Conference Tournament Qualifier Allocations, which is what you are asking.

On March 8th, the Coaches Ranking, RPI, and Win % are recalculated USING THE ADDITIONAL MATCHES IN THE CONFERENCE TOURNAMENT, to determine whether wrestlers meet the Bronze Standard. A wrestler that goes over 17 matches during their conference tournament will now have an RPI, where they did not before, and if they go over 8 bouts during their conference championships, they'll have a Win %, where they did not prior. Again, not what you asked, just sharing additional info.

 

[burnsie1983]

I am intrigued to see Nevills vs Snyder. Definitely not picking the upset, but no other room can prepare him for that bout better than the one he is in. Varner, Smack, Cael and Co will have him ready.

I'm also very interested in the Stoll and Medbery matches, lots of tests yet to come for Mr Nevills!

 

[nitlion6]

He needs to avoid that 8 seed which he is perfectly capable of doing.

I want him seeded 1, 2, 3, 6 or 7.

 

[RoarLions1]

I am intrigued to see Nevills vs Snyder. Definitely not picking the upset, but no other room can prepare him for that bout better than the one he is in. Varner, Smack, Cael and Co will have him ready.

I'm also very interested in the Stoll and Medbery matches, lots of tests yet to come for Mr Nevills!

Tall task indeed (Snyder). No one has kept it close against him except for Gwiz, and we know what a special talent he was. And before anyone looks at the stats, I know Coon and Walz kept it to a decision...was at both matches, and Snyder was dominant.

Stoll and Medbery will be fun!!

And re. the posts on seeds, I just don't worry one iota about such things. Don't take that comment wrong...good on the guys if they win and improve their placement in the brackets...but there's lots of points to be had in wrestlebacks, so it all works out. Having said that, is avoiding Snyder for an extra round a good thing...sure, I'll agree with that.

 

[nitlion6]

I am intrigued to see Nevills vs Snyder. Definitely not picking the upset, but no other room can prepare him for that bout better than the one he is in. Varner, Smack, Cael and Co will have him ready.

I'm also very interested in the Stoll and Medbery matches, lots of tests yet to come for Mr Nevills!

Excellent point. If there is someone who can help Nick game plan Snyder it is Jake and Cael.

 

[burnsie1983]

I don't believe there is any other room in the country that can offer two people who've actually beaten Snyder, it's a great situation for Nick.