No Clark for Hawks
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Which Tom was protecting seeds again?
PS Based on an interview and other posts earlier in the week I don't think Bo is wrestling
PS Based on an interview and other posts earlier in the week I don't think Bo is wrestling
Clark not going for Iowa is flat out cowardly. For as much as Tom talks about what is and isn't good for the sport, this was solidly in the NOT good for the sport column. Intentionally having your guy duck his opponent like this is exactly the kind of thing that hurts the sport.
I have to respectfully disagree. Last week Clark looked to me like he was favoring his shoulder toward the end of the match, and having watched him for years, he is as tough as it gets with no quit. Everyone always says March is when it counts. I give him the benefit of the doubt that he needs to recover, and hope he gets as healthy as possible for nationals.
I think Clark's shoulder is shredded. Watch the last bit of his match with Carpenter. He's on his knees just before he got his last takedown, reaches out quickly and then quickly brings his arm back with a wince. He gets the TD some other way, but he's got to be hurting.
If you think Clark would have had to recover against any other opponent then you're not being honest. Clark is apparently only healthy enough to wrestle kids he can beat easily. This was gutless from a guy who is constantly preaching about what is and isn't good for the sport. He was protecting Clark's seed. These kinds of intentional duckings is bad for the sport.
You guys need to get over yourselves. Clark is tough. First matches back he gets Micic, Eicher and Brock. This isn't about ducking.
Clark is tough, and I have no doubt that if you asked him he would wrestle with his arm hanging off. I don't blame Clark here. I think this was a strategic move by Tom Brands who loves to tell you what is and isn't good for the sport. Purposely doing this to try to preserve seeding in the B1G tournament is not good for the sport, which I think is obvious as to what this was.
I've come to like Tom Brands, but I think I'm over him telling us what's good for the sport.
I disagree but I'm not going to change your opinion. Appreciate you clarifying exactly who you were upset with
I agree with you Gebmo: This kid is out there wrestling with a god damn bowling hand and a freaking black sling over his shoulder. He is one move away from being gone for the season, and that could happen against anyone, not just Nato, but it could REALLY happen against Nato. To me, Brands isn't protecting the seed, he's protecting the kid, so that he can at least go out to St Louis and give it a shot. If his shoulder or wrist hits the mat the wrong way, he is finished.
He is wrestling in severe pain Chickenman, you are correct. Kid is a man.
Iowa 21-13
125: Thomas Gilman (IOWA) over Jose Rodriguez (OHST) (TF 23-8 6:02)
133: Nathan Tomasello (OHST) over Phillip Laux (IOWA) (Dec 10-3)
141: Luke Pletcher (OHST) over Christopher Carton (IOWA) (Dec 5-4)
149: Brandon Sorensen (IOWA) over Micah Jordan (OHST) (Dec 2-0)
157: Michael Kemerer (IOWA) over Jake Ryan (OHST) (MD 14-3)
165: Joseph Gunther (IOWA) over Cody Burcher (OHST) (Dec 3-0)
174: Bo Jordan (OHST) over Aaron Meyer (IOWA) (Dec 3-2)
184: Samuel Brooks (IOWA) over Myles Martin (OHST) (Dec 5-3)
197: Kollin Moore (OHST) over Cash Wilcke (IOWA) (MD 19-7)
285: Steven Holloway (IOWA) over Josh Fox (OHST) (Dec 6-1)
Cory Clark is ranked/seeded BEHIND Tomasello right now, by not wrestling he cost himself a chance to move up with a victory. It's the exact opposite of preserving a seed...
Not sure why anybody would feel it necessary to call out Clark or Brands for Clark not being out there tonight. The kid is wrestling with his arm in a support harness. Nobody here has any idea if he reinjured the joint or not. Besides the unknown, it was a justified and smart move.
Partially true. For B10 seeding, Tomasello and Clark are both undefeated in conference. If Tomasello slips up, Clark would be the #1 seed at B10s. And it's looking like the B10 champ will get the #1 seed at nationals.
It's kinda moot because I doubt Clark ducked this match. I suspect his shoulder is gonna be an issue the rest of this year -- maybe not enough to keep him off the podium, but maybe enough to not reach his goals.
Do you think Kollin Moore is anywhere near this good without facing Snyder daily?
But in how many of those scenarios would a NaTo loss not make Clark the #1 seed even if he had a loss to NaTo? Given NaTo's remaining opponents, I would say none. Only one top guy left (Montoya) who already has a couple Big Ten losses.
Cory Clark is as tough as they come. Nothing to do with protecting a seed. Open your eyes!
I mean he's competing in the biggest annual tournament in the world outside the world championships, hard to knock him for that.
If Ryan had asked your question, then he'd be a beggar who thinks he can be a chooser.
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Sure...guys he can beat easily like Micic and Kaid Brock while out there with a sling. But yea, Brands is known for sitting guys in duals for seeding purposes because duals just aren't that big a deal for him. Plus, Clark is known for just wrestling the easy guys. Gutless...lmao. If he puts him out there injured against NATO and it gets hurt worse, then Brands is stupid. Cory is a senior wrestling with an injury on the home stretch to NCAAs...I'll take gutless any day. Now...go wipe the drool from your face.
Sitting him was the right move for Cory. Shoulder isn't perfect. I think he will wrestle more before BIG but won't be surprised if he sits another 1 or 2 out before post season. Nato probably wins the match, but Cory isn't scared of anyone.
Smart actually. The Hawks won 21-13 with Laux losing by decision. If Clark had wrestled with his bad shoulder, he loses by decision too and the Hawks win 21-13. No difference except that Clark risks his injury getting worse and jeopardizing his and the team's chances come March. Brands would have rightfully come under fire if such an event had happened. Sometimes the common sense approach is common sense.
I'm glad they held him out! As PSU fans we should all be in Clarks corner...with the loss of Stoll and not pulling AM's shirt - they aren't gonna be fighting for the title this year. 133 is a big weight for tOSU and OSU, so Clark being healthy enough to knock just one of those guys off could really help PSU! Clark could help be our Gwiz this year if he pulls off a win against Nato or Brock at NCAAs.
For the fans of one team, some are awful concerned about what other teams do.
By the way, Penn State won last night 33-11.
By the way, Penn State won last night 33-11.
