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Not sure many saw the conclusion of the NASCAR race... Horrible crash

Wow. That is scary. Amazing that he simply walked away from that. Fortunately, the car did not catch fire.
 
NASCAR has got to do something about "bump draft" racing at super speedways. A tradegy is just around the corner. The drivers have been complaining about it for years. Instead of dealing with the bloody flag issue, they need to suspend super speedway racing until they have a solution. They were lucky last night!
 
Well they've designed the cars so well that the driver walked away without a scratch. 15 years ago a lot of folks would have been killed--in the stands too.
 
Wow. Catch fence saved a ton of people. In the rain delay, they were talking about the toll racing takes on loved ones of the drivers. Incredible.

Also, the fact that the car hit the catch fence is probably a plus. had it hit the concrete, and then fell onto the swarm of cars it may have been a different story.

Personally, I hate these restrictor plate races. From a fan's perspective, it is two hours of nothing (perhaps hoping for a wreck) to the last five laps of fun.
 
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Not sure why Harvick got into Hamlin so close to the finish line. It's almost as if some drivers just floor it and close their eyes.

The way these cars are built is just amazing.
 
Obliviax said:
Wow. Catch fence saved a ton of people. In the rain delay, they were talking about the toll racing takes on loved ones of the drivers. Incredible.

Also, the fact that the car hit the catch fence is probably a plus. had it hit the concrete, and then fell onto the swarm of cars it may have been a different story.

Personally, I hate these restrictor plate races. From a fan's perspective, it is two hours of nothing (perhaps hoping for a wreck) to the last five laps of fun.
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Cant agree that hitting that catch-fence was a "plus" - Dillon's car came to an immediate stopafter taking out the third post, G-forces therein must have been obscene.... Not a great way to dissipate energy.... If you look carefully the 3car actually did fall into the swarm of cars on his way to the fence-and then his smouldering hulk was T-boned by the 2car at the end... Thought that was the kill-shot
 
I was there and I was shaking, and tears started flowing when I saw his car and Keslowski hit him a second time flipping him over and the race crews rushed towards him, something I have never seen on a track before (30th or so NASCAR race) Just something about seeing the 3 like that and then seeing the hole in the crash fence, was sure there had to be many serious injuries but all the safety equipment did its job

I got video of it and ABC News contacted me to use it and interviewed me, which turned into a one sentence quote but still kind of cool...you can see the video and quote here, I had just gotten home around 5:30 AM after being up about 24 straight hours so I am kind of surprised I was coherent enough for them to even use one quote from me LOL

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/nascar-race-ends-austin-dillons-car-airborne/story?id=32243794
 
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massimoManca II said:
Cant agree that hitting that catch-fence was a "plus" - Dillon's car came to an immediate stopafter taking out the third post, G-forces therein must have been obscene.... Not a great way to dissipate energy.... If you look carefully the 3car actually did fall into the swarm of cars on his way to the fence-and then his smouldering hulk was T-boned by the 2car at the end... Thought that was the kill-shot
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Maybe, but if you thought the chain link fence stopped him fast, just imagine a concrete wall. And, if you watch, he kind of gets hung up above the cars on the fence for just a second, then drops onto the speedway where he takes another hit. Had he hit the concrete wall, he's have dropped right into the pack and taken several hits.

But whatevs......an incredible wreck either way.
 
Obliviax said:
Maybe, but if you thought the chain link fence stopped him fast, just imagine a concrete wall. And, if you watch, he kind of gets hung up above the cars on the fence for just a second, then drops onto the speedway where he takes another hit. Had he hit the concrete wall, he's have dropped right into the pack and taken several hits.

But whatevs......an incredible wreck either way.
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Looked at it again just now.... Thankfully Dillon's Undercarriage rode the catch-fence and bled off a whole lot of energy before that last post stopped him and put him back down on the tarmac... Ordinarilly the catch-fence isnt the place to be (obviously) Most pilots would choose a nice smooth concrete wall every time to dissipate energy. same reason you dont see armco barriers anywhere anymore ( except road courses)
 
Looks like after Hamlin started spinning he just clipped the 3 enough coming back around to get him airborne. Freaky how things happen. If Hamlin doesn't give him that little tweak he stays on the flat and gets bumped up, no big deal. It looks like the 4 got Hamlin squirrely but he may have been losing it before then. The roll cage stayed together, that's the main thing. The motor was out of it, on fire, and the rear was torn out but that cage did what it was supposed to.

Look at videos of old sprint car racers before roll cages. There are many on YT. Those guys were suicidal. Cronk I am glad you are still with us. All it takes is a piece of metal flying up into the stands after that and you could have a big problem.
 
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Victor E. Bell said:
Looks like after Hamlin started spinning he just clipped the 3 enough coming back around to get him airborne. Freaky how things happen. If Hamlin doesn't give him that little tweak he stays on the flat and gets bumped up, no big deal. It looks like the 4 got Hamlin squirrely but he may have been losing it before then. The roll cage stayed together, that's the main thing. The motor was out of it, on fire, and the rear was torn out but that cage did what it was supposed to.

Look at videos of old sprint car racers before roll cages. There are many on YT. Those guys were suicidal. Cronk I am glad you are still with us. All it takes is a piece of metal flying up into the stands after that and you could have a big problem.
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thanks but I sit way way up (which in NASCAR are the expensive and not cheap seats because it allows you to see the entire course)

seriously NASCAR and Daytona need to be credited and not condemned this morning. Part of the new construction was moving people further away from the catch fences and they no longer allow you to walk around down there, I had forgotten that when I first saw the hole in the wall and the paramedics going into the crowd and I just expected there to be fatalities and serious injuries, if that happened last year, people would be dead
 
massimoManca II said:
At the checkered flag, scale of which was unlike anything I'd ever seen.... Thought I'd just watched Austin Dillon perish as his car was catapulted into the catch fence - was amazed he got out and walked away, thank God....http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/daytona-finish-features-massive-horrifying-wreck-1715930669
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I, like many of us, get vicarious thrills watching NASCAR, or extreme surfers, or Nik Wallenda walking across the Grand Canyon. Often I feel great discomfort watching these events as I'm sure I wouldn't be so mesmerized if there was no risk of death. Still, it seems certain that these daredevils would take the risks even if no one was watching...it's part of their DNA. I guess in the end, all of it...the watching, the risk taking...is what makes us human.
 
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listen to Jr's scanner the final two laps including the crash aftermath, really powerful and moving stuff...he does curse so turn your speakers down, you can skip to the 2:30 mark for the finish

 
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and this...



for perspective, they moved the fans back about 15 feet and no longer allow you access to stand and linger right next to the ctach fence as they always have in the past, if not, we are talking fatalities
 
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Jr's spotter says he saw 11 and 4 signal they were going to work together. I was in bed before it started, never mind the ending but I DVRd it and just watched the whole race. Hamlin says at the end that the 4 was pushing him, trying to help him out but he pushed him out of shape so there it is from the horse's mouth.
 
I haven't followed NASCAR seriously since Darrell Waltrip retired. In my opinion, the scariest crash I've ever seen was Michael Waltrip's crash in a Busch Grand National race at Bristol in 1990, the day before the feature race.

At Bristol there is a gap in the concrete wall where they bring the trucks across the tract to get into the infield. Michael's car hit the blunt edge of the wall head on and almost ripped the entire car in half. His forward progress stopped almost immediately and the entire force of the impact was absorbed by the car. He walked away with bumps and bruises.



At least with Sunday's crash, there was some give in the fence and the car dispelled some energy.
 
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That crash was chilling. Mark Martin had a similar one at Michigan on pit road right before he retired a few years back but nothing like Mikey's. DWs interview gives it perspective. Here's the Martin one...gotta think if he took that wall a little further south he'd be done. Dangerous game, it is...

 
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I haven't followed NASCAR seriously since Darrell Waltrip retired. In my opinion, the scariest crash I've ever seen was Michael Waltrip's crash in a Busch Grand National race at Bristol in 1990, the day before the feature race.

At Bristol there is a gap in the concrete wall where they bring the trucks across the tract to get into the infield. Michael's car hit the blunt edge of the wall head on and almost ripped the entire car in half. His forward progress stopped almost immediately and the entire force of the impact was absorbed by the car. He walked away with bumps and bruises.

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At least with Sunday's crash, there was some give in the fence and the car dispelled some energy.
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wow, that is a crazy crash and aftermath
 
cronk said:
and this...

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for perspective, they moved the fans back about 15 feet and no longer allow you access to stand and linger right next to the ctach fence as they always have in the past, if not, we are talking fatalities
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Wow, gives you an appreciation for the speed and power you don't get up high or on TV. I was in the pitts several years ago and that was quite an experience. Amazing power and amazing control, really
 
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Thus Spoke Mainer said:
Hey genius, did you predict a "low scoring affair" for the Women's World Cup yesterday?
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Why all the 'tude? Matter of fact I did not predict a low-scoring affair, so I guess I'm correct again, eh? i did watch some of the match, actually saw a goal scored ( nearly shatt myself). .... Soccer still does little (nothing) for me, but I watched because I am acquainted w/some of the Wambach family
 
replay of the race is on nbc sports network currently.... I am not going to get into the whole safety thing. I have had several family members race nascar/indy car and win Le Mans. I have driven and worked on pit crews. Everyone knows the danger and accepts it. We do what we do because we love the sport. We have lost a family member and many friends to racing. It's a wonderful sport and everything is constantly be analyzed for safety and making it better. After last night I would say yes it was a bad wreck, but everyone including drivers and fans walked away with only a few scratches from what I have seen....
 
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