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As a former New England Patriots offensive coordinator who hails from Andover, Massachusetts, Bill O'Brien will confront his past Saturday night when his Houston Texans take on the AFC's top seed at Gillette Stadium.

Yet as chatter increases around the NFL of growing tension between the third-year coach and the men who employ him -- owner Bob McNair and general manager Rick Smith -- O'Brien also heads into this Divisional Round playoff game with uncertainty surrounding his future.






"I got home the other night and my wife (Colleen) asks me, 'Where are we living next year?' "
O'Brien told me Monday during an interview that will air Saturday on NFL Network's "GameDay Morning". "Look, things are out there, and you can't control everything that's out there. I signed a five-year contract when I came here. I've enjoyed coaching here. We like living here. So at the end of the day, the Houston Texans are a place that we enjoy working.

"Whatever the future holds, it holds, but like I said, I have two years left on my contract, so we'll see what happens."

According to various reports -- and based on my conversations with numerous sources -- a breakup between O'Brien and the Texans remains possible, even with Houston in position to reach its first-ever AFC Championship Game with an upset of the heavily favored Pats. If the Texans succumb Saturday night, McNair will have to decide whether to fire O'Brien (which would be somewhat surprising); to try to trade him to another team (only the San Francisco 49ers have yet to fill their head-coaching vacancy); or to retain him and hope that the working relationship between his coach and GM does not further deteriorate in 2017.

Were O'Brien to be available, 49ers owner Jed York likely would be interested; trading a draft pick to acquire him would be far less palatable. Barring a mystery team suddenly swooping in, the smart money is still on O'Brien remaining in Houston, where he has guided the Texans to a trio of 9-7 seasons (and consecutive AFC South championships) despite less-than-optimal circumstances.

Exhibit A: Having to start eight quarterbacks over the course of his three-year tenure, including Brock Osweiler, acquired last March via a four-year, $72 million free-agent deal. A major disappointment, The Brock Star was finally benched by O'Brien after throwing two interceptions in a mid-December game against the Jaguars, with replacement Tom Savage leading the team to one-point victory. However, Savage suffered a concussion early in the team's season-ending defeat to the Titans, and Osweiler was reinserted into the lineup for last Saturday's first-round playoff victory over the Raiders.






Now, even with Savage cleared to return, Osweiler (who performed efficiently against Oakland) will get the start against the Patriots -- and O'Brien told me he won't have a quick hook.

"We're going to stick with Brock," O'Brien said. "Maybe (after being benched) he was able to take a step back and observe some things, and it's a league to me that's all about adversity. I think Brock's done a nice job handling it like a pro.

"I thought he did a nice job in the second half of the Tennessee game, and then he did a very nice job last week. He helped us win a playoff game. He was efficient, he had control of the game and he understood our game plan. We're confident that he'll go up there and execute and play well."

In September, the Texans traveled to Foxborough and played possibly their worst game of O'Brien's tenure, suffering a 27-0 defeat to the Patriots on Thursday Night Football. Tom Brady, the future Hall of Fame quarterback with whom O'Brien is still close, didn't play in that game; hell, neither did Jimmy Garoppolo. Throw in the fact that Houston's best player, three-time NFL Defensive Player of the Year J.J. Watt, was sidelined for the season following the back injury he suffered in that game at Gillette, and the Texans (who nonetheless finished the regular season with the league's No. 1 defense) seem highly unlikely to extend their season beyond Saturday night.

It's an eventuality the perpetually blunt O'Brien isn't afraid to address, even as he wonders about the ramifications that such a defeat might have on his career.






"If we can take care of the ball, and we get into the fourth quarter and it's a close game, anything can happen in the playoffs," he said. "But if we go in there and we kind of dip our toe in the water, they come out fast and we're behind 10-nothing, 17-nothing, obviously it's going to be a long night."

If that happens, O'Brien will quickly find out whether he's moving forward as the Texans' coach -- or whether he and his wife are moving to a new city.

-- Michael Silver
 
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As a former New England Patriots offensive coordinator who hails from Andover, Massachusetts, Bill O'Brien will confront his past Saturday night when his Houston Texans take on the AFC's top seed at Gillette Stadium.

Yet as chatter increases around the NFL of growing tension between the third-year coach and the men who employ him -- owner Bob McNair and general manager Rick Smith -- O'Brien also heads into this Divisional Round playoff game with uncertainty surrounding his future.






"I got home the other night and my wife (Colleen) asks me, 'Where are we living next year?' "
O'Brien told me Monday during an interview that will air Saturday on NFL Network's "GameDay Morning". "Look, things are out there, and you can't control everything that's out there. I signed a five-year contract when I came here. I've enjoyed coaching here. We like living here. So at the end of the day, the Houston Texans are a place that we enjoy working.

"Whatever the future holds, it holds, but like I said, I have two years left on my contract, so we'll see what happens."

According to various reports -- and based on my conversations with numerous sources -- a breakup between O'Brien and the Texans remains possible, even with Houston in position to reach its first-ever AFC Championship Game with an upset of the heavily favored Pats. If the Texans succumb Saturday night, McNair will have to decide whether to fire O'Brien (which would be somewhat surprising); to try to trade him to another team (only the San Francisco 49ers have yet to fill their head-coaching vacancy); or to retain him and hope that the working relationship between his coach and GM does not further deteriorate in 2017.

Were O'Brien to be available, 49ers owner Jed York likely would be interested; trading a draft pick to acquire him would be far less palatable. Barring a mystery team suddenly swooping in, the smart money is still on O'Brien remaining in Houston, where he has guided the Texans to a trio of 9-7 seasons (and consecutive AFC South championships) despite less-than-optimal circumstances.

Exhibit A: Having to start eight quarterbacks over the course of his three-year tenure, including Brock Osweiler, acquired last March via a four-year, $72 million free-agent deal. A major disappointment, The Brock Star was finally benched by O'Brien after throwing two interceptions in a mid-December game against the Jaguars, with replacement Tom Savage leading the team to one-point victory. However, Savage suffered a concussion early in the team's season-ending defeat to the Titans, and Osweiler was reinserted into the lineup for last Saturday's first-round playoff victory over the Raiders.






Now, even with Savage cleared to return, Osweiler (who performed efficiently against Oakland) will get the start against the Patriots -- and O'Brien told me he won't have a quick hook.

"We're going to stick with Brock," O'Brien said. "Maybe (after being benched) he was able to take a step back and observe some things, and it's a league to me that's all about adversity. I think Brock's done a nice job handling it like a pro.

"I thought he did a nice job in the second half of the Tennessee game, and then he did a very nice job last week. He helped us win a playoff game. He was efficient, he had control of the game and he understood our game plan. We're confident that he'll go up there and execute and play well."

In September, the Texans traveled to Foxborough and played possibly their worst game of O'Brien's tenure, suffering a 27-0 defeat to the Patriots on Thursday Night Football. Tom Brady, the future Hall of Fame quarterback with whom O'Brien is still close, didn't play in that game; hell, neither did Jimmy Garoppolo. Throw in the fact that Houston's best player, three-time NFL Defensive Player of the Year J.J. Watt, was sidelined for the season following the back injury he suffered in that game at Gillette, and the Texans (who nonetheless finished the regular season with the league's No. 1 defense) seem highly unlikely to extend their season beyond Saturday night.

It's an eventuality the perpetually blunt O'Brien isn't afraid to address, even as he wonders about the ramifications that such a defeat might have on his career.






"If we can take care of the ball, and we get into the fourth quarter and it's a close game, anything can happen in the playoffs," he said. "But if we go in there and we kind of dip our toe in the water, they come out fast and we're behind 10-nothing, 17-nothing, obviously it's going to be a long night."

If that happens, O'Brien will quickly find out whether he's moving forward as the Texans' coach -- or whether he and his wife are moving to a new city.

-- Michael Silver
He is as good as gone. He'll go out on a relatively high note. Again, not failing. In fact, doing a decent job with what he had for a second job in a row. It is what it is. He will go somewhere better.

This is not the same as "failing upward" at all. More like succeeding incrementally.
 
Strange situation. A team that makes the playoffs back to back years and any objective observer agrees the talent in Houston is not overwhelming and that BOB is doing a decent job. BOB and the GM must really hate each other. I gotta believe a lot of this comes down to the Brock Osweiler signing as that was obviously very controversial considering the money involved. If BOB was truly against it and the GM did it anyway, I can see how BOB would be targetting to fire the GM and get GM responsibilities.
 
Aside from any internal organizational struggles, when coaches are on the "hot seat" for getting their team 2 wins from the Super Bowl, I thank myself even more for not watching the nfl.

The poster organization for this kind of shenanigans should be the San Diego Chargers. After firing Marty for going 14-2 and losing late at home to the Patriots in the first round, they have been mediocre or worse since.

That being said, there are some coaches who just can't get the job done in January - even though its a different sport, the two big examples I see are Bruce Boudreau and Dan Bylsma in the NHL - fantastic regular season coaches that turtle in the playoffs.

I hope O'Brien is successful and happy. As much as his leaving Penn State frustrated me at the time, he made no bones about his desire to coach in the NFL again, and things have worked out pretty good for Penn State too.
 
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We have a few posters on here who will likely lobby to get him back at PSU if Houston fires him. He was such a quarterback whisperer you know.
 
I like the guy and think he's a good coach. But when it became apparent that he couldn't replace his bunch of "fighters" because of the sanctions, he was out the door. (Along with all the other politics).

Now it seems the GM is doing the grocery shopping, and....
 
OB is not happy that the GM have a lot of $$ to a not yet ready maybe never ready QB that OB obviously did not want. That will hurt the Texans in the future
 
The poster organization for this kind of shenanigans should be the San Diego Chargers. After firing Marty for going 14-2 and losing late at home to the Patriots in the first round, they have been mediocre or worse since.



That being said, there are some coaches who just can't get the job done in January - even though its a different sport, the two big examples I see are Bruce Boudreau and Dan Bylsma in the NHL - fantastic regular season coaches that turtle in the playoffs.

I hope O'Brien is successful and happy. As much as his leaving Penn State frustrated me at the time, he made no bones about his desire to coach in the NFL again, and things have worked out pretty good for Penn State too.

Bylsma did win a Stanley Cup as coach of
the Pens.
 
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He is as good as gone. He'll go out on a relatively high note. Again, not failing. In fact, doing a decent job with what he had for a second job in a row. It is what it is. He will go somewhere better.

This is not the same as "failing upward" at all. More like succeeding incrementally.

Or to put it another way, he can't get along with his employer for a second job in a row.

O'Brien did a good job at PSU, but he made promises to recruits that he was unwilling to keep. He couldn't or wouldn't get along with the administration and now he apparently can't or won't get along with the management of the Texans. I have little respect for O'Brien for how he left PSU, but I'm starting to think the PSU football program was lucky to be rid of this guy before his special brand of "the sweatshirt" demeanor began to wear thin with the school, players, and recruits.
 
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Aside from any internal organizational struggles, when coaches are on the "hot seat" for getting their team 2 wins from the Super Bowl, I thank myself even more for not watching the nfl.

I don't think that "for getting [his] team 2 wins from the Super Bowl" is why he's (apparently) on the "hot seat." I have no inside info though.
 
Bylsma did win a Stanley Cup as coach of
the Pens.
He did, four months after being hired.

I don't believe they even made the third round in his four years after that, with embarrassing early exits several times - losing to a terrible Lightning team when they led the series 3-1, getting swept by the Bruins.

I like the guy but he's not a playoff coach.
 
Texans ownership said win or loss today, they are not firing OB. I wonder if this is a shot at him in response to the above article. Ball is in his court now.
 
We have a few posters on here who will likely lobby to get him back at PSU if Houston fires him. He was such a quarterback whisperer you know.
He was fantastic with qb's. Hack had a heck of a year under him and so did Moxie. This guy can coach, no doubt about it.
 
OB is not happy that the GM have a lot of $$ to a not yet ready maybe never ready QB that OB obviously did not want. That will hurt the Texans in the future
Why does everyone think Obrien had nothing to do with signing osweiler? Did u watch hard knocks? BOB=control freak. If you think he sat back and let Smith make the decision you are a fool
 
Interview with BOB going into halftime, he was talking about his team being a bunch of FIGHTERS.... wonder if he almost slipped again.....
 
Yet, neither had a year like McSorley neither did any other quarterback in Penn State history.
Yet, neither had a year like McSorley did...hmm.
We are talking about Hackenberg and Mc Gloin. Because Mc Sorely had a great year that has any bearing on whether O'Brien did a good job or not? Our running backs coach did not do a good job because Barkley did not have a better year than Larry Johnson? So if nobody ever has a year better than Mc Sorely it means no Penn State coach did a good job with the kids he was coaching?
 
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We are talking about Hackenberg and Mc Gloin. Because Mc Sorely had a great year that has any bearing on whether O'Brien did a good job or not? Our running backs coach did not do a good job because Barkley did not have a better year than Larry Johnson? So if nobody ever has a year better than Mc Sorely it means no Penn State coach did a good job with the kids he was coaching?
No, it means O'Brien wasn't the be all and end all of QB coaches like some on here want people to believe especially back when Franklin was getting trashed because Hack didn't perform as well as he did under OB. What McSorley did this year shows Franklin can coach QB's as well.
 
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