That is just stupid. Wow.Baseball is broken
Blame the small market teams that don't want a salary cap because then there would be floorBaseball is broken
Not on this one Lando. No small market team would give a player 700 mil guaranteed fresh off Tommy John surgery. Great player to be sure, but 700 mil guaranteed? My lord.Blame the small market teams that don't want a salary cap because then there would be floor
Oh I agree the contract is absurd but absurd contracts exist because the small markets refuse to support a salary capNot on this one Lando. No small market team would give a player 700 mil guaranteed fresh off Tommy John surgery. Great player to be sure, but 700 mil guaranteed? My lord.
Tells me there is a ton of money in baseball.Baseball is broken
In LA, NY and HoustonTells me there is a ton of money in baseball.
I saw that 70 mil a year was more than 2 teams expected opening day payroll this coming year. The Pirates were not 1 of the 2 but I’m sure they aren’t that far apart.Was the Pirates payroll even $70 million last year? It wouldn’t surprise me if he made more money in one year than the entire Pirates roster.
How much?People still watch baseball? Anyone wanna buy my Topps 1961 collection?
Despite having every advantage there could be, the Dodgers have one WS win since 1988, and it was in the 2020 shortened season, and only have made three WS in that time. So, despite winning their division a lot and making the playoffs, they aren’t exactly creating a dynasty with all of their spending.Haven’t watch baseball in a long time because of this insanity. Who cares. Dodgers will be the suckers of the league in 2024. They still won’t make the WS.
I totally agree with you on that point; if the small markets continue to ratify the current system without a salary cap, then they deserve what they get.Oh I agree the contract is absurd but absurd contracts exist because the small markets refuse to support a salary cap
Unfortunately, the 'consequence' for owners like nutting is an enlarged financial portfolio.I totally agree with you on that point; if the small markets continue to ratify the current system without a salary cap, then they deserve what they get.
Kidding, I'll never sell. Just wish my Mom hadn't tossed all my 1950's cards when we moved.How much?
I remember when Mickey Mantle and Willie Mays were not worth $100,000.Sorry but nobody is worth that much.
I recall that Mantle worked in a bowling alley in the off season his first few years in the majors.I remember when Mickey Mantle and Willie Mays were not worth $100,000.
I don't think many people actually watch, though. this bubble will bust at some point but only when the media companies stop paying so much for the content nobody is consumingTells me there is a ton of money in baseball.
Agreed. First, baseball is not sport, it is entertainment. All sports are. When teams become noncompetitive, that erodes the people that want to watch. Look at the posts on this board eschewing the lack of competitiveness that the Pirates have become. If baseball gets reduced to NY, LA, Houston and SFO there are going to be a lot of people who no longer care. I think that is a big reason why baseball has not kept up with NFL, NBA and NHL. They are now trying to trick up the game, which has some value, but the big reason is most of the nation no longer cares. As those people die off who grew up caring, baseball will continue to suffer. somehow, they need to balance the playing field with those secondary and tertiary markets that they are letting die.I don't think many people actually watch, though. this bubble will bust at some point but only when the media companies stop paying so much for the content nobody is consuming
There’s no doubt that the current system in MLB with no salary cap largely makes the Pirates an uncompetitive entity. However, that’s not the main excuse for them having only four above .500 seasons since 1993 and only three playoff appearances in that same span. I mean, look at how competitive and successful the Rays have been since the late 2000s, and they play in a mausoleum usually with very few fans.Agreed. First, baseball is not sport, it is entertainment. All sports are. When teams become noncompetitive, that erodes the people that want to watch. Look at the posts on this board eschewing the lack of competitiveness that the Pirates have become. If baseball gets reduced to NY, LA, Houston and SFO there are going to be a lot of people who no longer care. I think that is a big reason why baseball has not kept up with NFL, NBA and NHL. They are now trying to trick up the game, which has some value, but the big reason is most of the nation no longer cares. As those people die off who grew up caring, baseball will continue to suffer. somehow, they need to balance the playing field with those secondary and tertiary markets that they are letting die.
Well, Pitt is the worst but they are hardly alone.There’s no doubt that the current system in MLB with no salary cap largely makes the Pirates an uncompetitive entity. However, that’s not the main excuse for them having only four above .500 seasons since 1993 and only three playoff appearances in that same span. I mean, look at how competitive and successful the Rays have been since the late 2000s, and they play in a mausoleum usually with very few fans.
Since 1993, the Pirates largely have been mismanaged and drafted rather poorly, and have very little ambition. Just look at this off-season. Last season, they actually won 76 games with one of their most promising players missing almost the entire season and several of their projected starting pitchers being injured. They played very well in the second half of 2023, and started to develop a winning spirit. Yet, they basically have been inactive this off-season to strengthen the team, which is a shame because it wouldn’t take much to make them at least a wildcard contender.
$700 million, 7 years in USA, and he STILL needs an interpreter!So we’re now sending $700m to Japan’s economy. Bright move LA. Stupid MLB.
$700 million, 7 years in USA, and he STILL needs an interpreter!
I have no idea about Ohtani but I think it was Matsui or Irabu for the Yankees who used to use an interpreter in interviews even though he knew English just be sure no mistakes were made by accident. One would hope that's the case.$700 million, 7 years in USA, and he STILL needs an interpreter!
How many years has it been since you attended a baseball game?Baseball is broken
Why? That's only $70 million per year and he's likely to be good for 6 of those years.Baseball is broken
CNBC just had a segment on this deferred payment plan. They believe it was for tax purposes. He will be paid the huge amounts after he retires. Meaning he could move to a state with no personal income taxes and save tens of millions he would have had to pay in California….. which has a top rate of 12.3%.All but $2MM per year deferred?
Report: Shohei Ohtani to defer all but $20M of his $700M Dodgers contract until after its completion in 2034
Ohtani reportedly won't see $680 million of his groundbreaking contract for more than a decade. The deferral was reportedly his idea.www.yahoo.com
CNBC just had a segment on this deferred payment plan. They believe it was for tax purposes. He will be paid the huge amounts after he retires. Meaning he could move to a state with no personal income taxes and save tens of millions he would have had to pay in California….. which has a top rate of 12.3%.
If his home county or the city has income taxes he will save even more.That's actually better than Bobby Bonilla's 8%, and he probably gets it a lot faster than 20 years.