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Ohtani dodgers 10 years, $700m*

So we’re now sending $700m to Japan’s economy. Bright move LA. Stupid MLB.
 
Blame the small market teams that don't want a salary cap because then there would be floor
Not on this one Lando. No small market team would give a player 700 mil guaranteed fresh off Tommy John surgery. Great player to be sure, but 700 mil guaranteed? My lord.
 
Not on this one Lando. No small market team would give a player 700 mil guaranteed fresh off Tommy John surgery. Great player to be sure, but 700 mil guaranteed? My lord.
Oh I agree the contract is absurd but absurd contracts exist because the small markets refuse to support a salary cap
 
I don't see how the Dodgers can justify this with Ohtani's recent injury history. I can't see him pitching/hitting for too many more years and the Dodgers will be left with an aging DH.
The Dodgers probably hope to get a World Series or two in the near future and that justifies the contract. Plus, it's asking a lot to Ohtani to perform at this level for the next ten years.
Oh, well.., it's not my money.
 
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Just another indication that baseball is totally controlled by TV money. The Dodgers TV network extends all over the west coast and inland. Teams (like the Pirates) with a miniscule TV reach have no chance at big time players.
 
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I think their regional sports network must be expecting to make a ton of cash from Japanese viewers.
 
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Haven’t watch baseball in a long time because of this insanity. Who cares. Dodgers will be the suckers of the league in 2024. They still won’t make the WS.
 
Really makes me wander how much some of these transfer portal studs will get in the future. 700 mil is an insane amount of money in general, let alone for a sport.
 
Was the Pirates payroll even $70 million last year? It wouldn’t surprise me if he made more money in one year than the entire Pirates roster.
I saw that 70 mil a year was more than 2 teams expected opening day payroll this coming year. The Pirates were not 1 of the 2 but I’m sure they aren’t that far apart.
I also read an article that made it sound as if Ohtanni made this a backloaded deal so the Dodgers could spend more money. Yikes.
 
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Haven’t watch baseball in a long time because of this insanity. Who cares. Dodgers will be the suckers of the league in 2024. They still won’t make the WS.
Despite having every advantage there could be, the Dodgers have one WS win since 1988, and it was in the 2020 shortened season, and only have made three WS in that time. So, despite winning their division a lot and making the playoffs, they aren’t exactly creating a dynasty with all of their spending.
 
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I totally agree with you on that point; if the small markets continue to ratify the current system without a salary cap, then they deserve what they get.
Unfortunately, the 'consequence' for owners like nutting is an enlarged financial portfolio.
 
I remember when Mickey Mantle and Willie Mays were not worth $100,000.
I recall that Mantle worked in a bowling alley in the off season his first few years in the majors.

A long time ago I sat and played poker with a group of guys including Elroy Face. He had just finished his 18 - 1 season with the Pirates. After we played a while, he excused himself because he had to go to work. In the off season he worked as a carpenter to make ends meet. Times have changed.
 
Tells me there is a ton of money in baseball.
I don't think many people actually watch, though. this bubble will bust at some point but only when the media companies stop paying so much for the content nobody is consuming
 
I don't think many people actually watch, though. this bubble will bust at some point but only when the media companies stop paying so much for the content nobody is consuming
Agreed. First, baseball is not sport, it is entertainment. All sports are. When teams become noncompetitive, that erodes the people that want to watch. Look at the posts on this board eschewing the lack of competitiveness that the Pirates have become. If baseball gets reduced to NY, LA, Houston and SFO there are going to be a lot of people who no longer care. I think that is a big reason why baseball has not kept up with NFL, NBA and NHL. They are now trying to trick up the game, which has some value, but the big reason is most of the nation no longer cares. As those people die off who grew up caring, baseball will continue to suffer. somehow, they need to balance the playing field with those secondary and tertiary markets that they are letting die.
 
Agreed. First, baseball is not sport, it is entertainment. All sports are. When teams become noncompetitive, that erodes the people that want to watch. Look at the posts on this board eschewing the lack of competitiveness that the Pirates have become. If baseball gets reduced to NY, LA, Houston and SFO there are going to be a lot of people who no longer care. I think that is a big reason why baseball has not kept up with NFL, NBA and NHL. They are now trying to trick up the game, which has some value, but the big reason is most of the nation no longer cares. As those people die off who grew up caring, baseball will continue to suffer. somehow, they need to balance the playing field with those secondary and tertiary markets that they are letting die.
There’s no doubt that the current system in MLB with no salary cap largely makes the Pirates an uncompetitive entity. However, that’s not the main excuse for them having only four above .500 seasons since 1993 and only three playoff appearances in that same span. I mean, look at how competitive and successful the Rays have been since the late 2000s, and they play in a mausoleum usually with very few fans.

Since 1993, the Pirates largely have been mismanaged and drafted rather poorly, and have very little ambition. Just look at this off-season. Last season, they actually won 76 games with one of their most promising players missing almost the entire season and several of their projected starting pitchers being injured. They played very well in the second half of 2023, and started to develop a winning spirit. Yet, they basically have been inactive this off-season to strengthen the team, which is a shame because it wouldn’t take much to make them at least a wildcard contender.
 
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There’s no doubt that the current system in MLB with no salary cap largely makes the Pirates an uncompetitive entity. However, that’s not the main excuse for them having only four above .500 seasons since 1993 and only three playoff appearances in that same span. I mean, look at how competitive and successful the Rays have been since the late 2000s, and they play in a mausoleum usually with very few fans.

Since 1993, the Pirates largely have been mismanaged and drafted rather poorly, and have very little ambition. Just look at this off-season. Last season, they actually won 76 games with one of their most promising players missing almost the entire season and several of their projected starting pitchers being injured. They played very well in the second half of 2023, and started to develop a winning spirit. Yet, they basically have been inactive this off-season to strengthen the team, which is a shame because it wouldn’t take much to make them at least a wildcard contender.
Well, Pitt is the worst but they are hardly alone.
 
$700 million, 7 years in USA, and he STILL needs an interpreter!
I have no idea about Ohtani but I think it was Matsui or Irabu for the Yankees who used to use an interpreter in interviews even though he knew English just be sure no mistakes were made by accident. One would hope that's the case.
 
All but $2MM per year deferred?

CNBC just had a segment on this deferred payment plan. They believe it was for tax purposes. He will be paid the huge amounts after he retires. Meaning he could move to a state with no personal income taxes and save tens of millions he would have had to pay in California….. which has a top rate of 12.3%.
 
CNBC just had a segment on this deferred payment plan. They believe it was for tax purposes. He will be paid the huge amounts after he retires. Meaning he could move to a state with no personal income taxes and save tens of millions he would have had to pay in California….. which has a top rate of 12.3%.

That's actually better than Bobby Bonilla's 8%, and he probably gets it a lot faster than 20 years.
 
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