Fashnau was a 3* recruit. Tengwall, Scruggs, Worley, and Wallace were 4* recruits. Tengwall & Wallace just missed 5*.
No excuses
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Fashanau was a 4* recruit on 2 services and none of them are giving any excuses because you don't deserve any.
Yep, Trautwein, and Howle need to produce this year . The tight end room was also highly rated coming out of High School. TE blocking was terrible last year.
Ok, so where do we stand after 2 games? Better than last year,? I say yes. Not sure how MUCH better just yet.
234 yards and about 7 yards per carry….I would say that’s better. I know people will say it was because of Singleton, but the RB’s do have some responsibility as well. We still have work to do, no doubt, but a definite improvement over Nova last year.
This is a good point because whether it has been Nova, Buffalo and other lower level programs, PSU still wasn't able to run a lick. Today had big chunk runs, but not much in between. The Auburn game will be the true litmus test for the whole team. Both lines will be really tested. Tank and Auburn can run the ball and pound it.
Meanwhile in Fayetteville, the Hogs rushed for 300+ yards today. #coachingmatters
We averaged 3.1 yard per rushing attempt against Purdue. You're putting too much stock in the game against Ohio
No, I’m just saying we’re showing some improvement. We didn’t do well against Nova last year. God forbid someone sees anything positive. Tough game for you, I know, but you’ll bounce back.
We played fine today--the outcome was what was expected. I have no issues with the game today. Glad Franklin was smart and played Allar a lot but this game tells us nothing about how good we are. See A&M struggling with App State--when you play garbage teams like they did last week you learn nothing
Lol. Sucks to be you today. Penn State crushed and you gave nothing to bitch about. Too bad loser
What did I bitch about from this game? I didn't complain about anything. The only bad thing all day was the Ohio drive at the end of the first half and we responded nicely.
2-0 means nothing--that should be the expectation. If we weren't we'd be trying to fire Franklin--well most people
2-0 means we’re not 1-1 or 0-2 and from a fan’s standpoint that’s all that matters since we have no control over what happens.
PSU had 230 rushing but 170 came on 3 big runs. We averaged 2 yds on the other 30 attempts.
As you said--it means nothing. Our season comes down to 3-4 games. That's why college football is changing...
I agree with there being more work to do. Starting most handoffs from a standing still position is something I just can't understand. OL can certainly improve but looked much better than last year to this point.
No doubt Singleton and Allen are certainly upgrades over the last couple years. None of the last couple years RBs make that 70 yard run that Singleton made.
I don't disagree but, to be fair, they played Mercer. Tonight they have San Jose State.
I'm not sure they are a good comparison. Running the ball is their culture, pure and simple. There was definite improvement from last year to this year and from last week to this week. Another thing I noticed was that some of the young players on the second D, played much faster
Yep, that's what I was getting at. Next week will tell a massive amount about the team.
Our season only comes down to 3-4 games if we win the others, so winning is good. I can’t believe I’m arguing with another Penn State fan about being happy about a win. I’m done. We’re just different kind of fans, so we’ll never agree.
Those games you should NEVER lose. Like right now, if your a Notre Dame or Texas A&M fan you want your coach fired.
And you don't have to agree with me but for you not to comprehend it or to thing it makes me a Pitt fan is absurd
Those 3 long runs will not happen against quality opponents. Maybe 1. Both lines are not performing well and it’s concerning. I remain in “rinse and repeat” mode for this team which is a Franklion trait. Next week will be slobberknocker football in the heat. Auburn doesn’t throw well.
And I hope too many don't argue you with u on here b/c what you said is exactly what JF said in the preseason and earlier yrs that PSU has to be able to run when we want to, and when we have to. Yes, it was so great to FINALLY do that to a lower level opponent for the first time in yrs. But, let's see how PSU does next week against Auburn, a fairly recent natl title program, an upper level SEC team that has dudes up front. I mean Wallace, Tengwall etc., will have their hands full big time. PSU is not a grind it out, physical football team...which typically has led to disappointing losses and seasons here recently.
I don't agree. Look at OSU last week. They struggled so they decided to grind out 1st downs to beat ND. Look at App State today. They controlled the ball for more than 41 minutes by grinding it out vs A&M.
Barry Sanders with Detroit who didn't have an OL but not Barry Sanders at OK State
Saquon has never had a decent line
Singleton would've had another big run if he, not Lee, would've been in on sweep pitch play to Lee in first half. Lee was run down by a linebacker for almost no gain. Singleton would've been gone. I like Lee because he runs hard, but he just doesn't give you that, one missed tackle and gone threat that Singleton does. I think it makes a D a bit more cautious and expands the width of the field they have to defend. If you're not worried about outside runs, defense is easier and more pressure on Oline. Now we need plays that go outside to the left.
Not to mention having capable backs means Clifford doesn't have to run nearly as much. Which will certainly help keep him upright and healthy.
Not to state the obvious, but that's how averages work. It would be like saying, "if you disregard our 3, 5 or 8 scoring drives from this game, we didn't really have much offensive output". Very rarely are you going to have all of your backs running downhill all day and picking up chunks of 5, 6 or 10 yards on every play. I'm not trying to suggest that the OL is playing well, but it does appear to be an improvement and they have time to fix some things.
I've looked at it the same way since the old days when we played smash mouth football. I would look at a RB like Warner or Thomas getting 150 yards rushing on 20 carries for an average of 7.5. I would subtract big 45 and 30 yard runs and see what they did on the other carries. In this example the other 18 carries averaged 4 yards which is good. A team can convert 3rd downs and keep opposing defenses honest that way. I realize that every run counts and I understand how averages work. I just think a good running game includes the ability to get 3-4 yards consistently. Not stuffed play after play waiting for a big one to break.
The days of our being able to shove it down the throats of a good opponent is probably over. This has more to do with scheme than just overall talent. Plus, with the transfer portal everyone seems to have former Alabama, OSU or Georgia players all over the field which evens things out. Ohio State was able to basically shove the ball down the ND throats in the second half of their game.
