I didn't hear this until now. Six of the players including Olu Fashanu got stuck on an elevator in Atlanta and a firefighter had to get them out.
Olu Fashanu & Six Players Stuck on Elevator
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Kind of symbolic not only of the weekend but the whole season.
Yeah 10-3, what a disaster.
Not really looking for an argument here, but beating 10 poor quality teams and not being very competitive against 3 good teams is not exactly a success.Yeah 10-3, what a disaster.
If you think differently, let me ask you to name one respectable team that PSU beat? IMHO, Iowa was the best win and they have an offense so bad that ferentz had to fire his son. They were shut out 3 times on the season, by the only 3 ranked teams they played
The record was okay, but the way they obtained it largely wasn’t.Yeah 10-3, what a disaster.
Kirk didn’t fire his son, the university stepped in and did the firing. kirk would have inexplicably brought him back for another season
Man that whole interview is great. Lots of guys could definitely adopt Olu’s attitude and work ethic. One of the guys in the interview had a great quote I’m going to take with me…
“Discipline will take you places that motivation can’t.”
“Discipline will take you places that motivation can’t.”
Agree but the third loss was marred by fielding a JV team so who knows if we could have won at full strength. Nevertheless, this season is certainly a disappointment in my opinion.
I totally agree. Our 10-3 record looks good on paper but we didn't beat anyone worth a $hit. We crapped out offensively against the only good teams we played.
Disappointment means not being able to dance with the big boys when it counts.....,AGAIN.
What's hardest to believe is that some of these posters accept this recurring crap because 10 wins and a 10-3 record is good enough. It isn't.
😂 Your expectations were fueled by a lack of realism fueled by the three stooges at On3 (and others) that are now back tracking at warp speed from ...2.2 second back peddling 40 speed and 1 second shuttle. Did you pay for their insider info? I hope not. So, you are disappointed.... Go figure.
Iowa still is. WVU beat literally no one this year. Iowa won 10.
I wonder if you are held to the same standard in your personal life? 10-3 is crap? You sound spoiled and entitled.
Also I hope you are contributing to NIL if you are demanding Top 5 results.
Yeah, if we don't contribute to NIL, you have to be happy with where we are. So ridiculous. JF is the one who said 5 yrs ago now that 'they will be uncomfortable' moving forward and will do the things to become 'elite.' It's all hot air. Sorry we are 'spoiled' wanting to rise above our 'almost, but not quite' reputation. Being an annual pretender and fraud isn't what most expect from Penn State.
respectfully Joe, PSU had 10 wins this season. Iowa was the only ranked team in PSU's win column, and their offense is so bad that Ferentz was forced to fire his son and Iowa was shut out by all 3 ranked teams they played, included 25th ranked Tennessee, in their bowl game, with a month of preparation.
In PSU's 3 losses against ranked teams, the offense was not competitive. In many of PSU's wins, the offense looked uninspired and struggled for at least 2 quarters against inferior talent. It was pretty obvious to anyone that understands football even a little bit, that PSU was not going to beat OSU or Mich without a miracle. PSU was 3 best team in the B1G this year, and that is sad. OSU and Mich were Tier 1. PSU was a distant Tier 2. Everyone else was about Tier 5. The conference was abysmal this year. PSU was crap this year. It's not spoiled and entitled. It's the obvious and honest assessment.
If you're not the best you're not good enough. That's not spoiled or entitled. That's about needing to put in hard work and expecting the same from others.
We are.....NOT Pitt. We are.....NOT Rutgers. We are......NOT Maryland. We are.....NOT Iowa. 10-3 would be a success at those schools.
How is being disappointed by continuing to lose big games at top opponents being spoiled and entitled? Are you satisfied with that? Being happy with a 10 win season means that you accept being mired as a 2nd tier BIG team.
Traditionally, PSU was always a team that played above their talent. Now, we play below our talent level. We had enough talent this year to beat OSU and UM if we had ANY offense. We FAILED.....again. That's disappointment.
Actually we play right around where we should based on our recruiting rankings. We almost never have Top 5 recruiting classes and we certainly don’t have anywhere near Top 10 NIL Money.
PSU and Michigan recruiting is virtually the same over several years, and in some yrs, ours is quite better. Michigan's NIL system is pretty much null. Why are they better? And, don't give me the cheating. Washington recruits a substantially lower level and they have turned it around. TCU last year broke through.
Simply evaluating where a program should be based on flimsy recruiting ratings, which are so arbitrary and mostly wrong, is just myopic. And, seeing as NIL has been a failed experiment for many programs, same logic applies. JF was losing big games before this new era, which has been around for five minutes.
It's apathetic and indifferent PSU fans who think 10-2 every yr and being a pretender in the big games is suitable.
What Michigan does doesn’t change the fact we perform about equal with our talent level based on our recruiting rankings.
Michigan also cheated for the last several years.
Because Harbaugh is an excellent coach, particularly at the line of scrimmage which is the most important thing in football. He's extremely unlikable and annoying, but an excellent coach nonetheless.
LOL...ok. We recruit on their level, and some years, better. So, I think the comparison is valid. Along with the other teams I mentioned who recruit far lower than PSU. Whatever, if you are content with beating nobodies and thinking that is PSU quality, that is your prerogative. JF even said the goal is to be elite over five yrs ago. Clearly he doesn't think they are where they should be.
Probably because they all tried to LEAVE EARLY 😂.
I'LL be here all week, try the veal.
Based on what? WVU's best win this year was 6-6 Texas Tech.
Iowa doesn't have an offense but WVU didn't show the ability to play with anyone with a pulse.
10 poor quality teams huh? Yeah that’s right every team PSU beat sucked. Kind of like the endless bitching on this board.
You can't just look at recruiting rankings and say that is where we should be ranked every year. Overly simplistic and not realistic. What about all the NFL talent we had this year and we still lose 2 games (not counting Ole Miss)?
You also have to look at how incredibly inept the offense was. A 5 star QB who looks like a 2 star. 4 star receivers playing like they are in middle school. We should be better and could have beaten OSU this year with the semblance of a functional offense. We need to expect better not just accept this is who we are.
We have culture in the program that we seemingly meltdown in big games and basically never beat a team of equal or better talent. Totally unacceptable. Who cares if we beat Rutgers, Maryland and Indiana every year. Any coach could do that. Franklin needs to win big games and that means beating the likes of OSU and Michigan and now also Washington, Oregon and USC. That is the measuring stick.
Well stated, another example of how numbers/statistics don’t always tell the true story. But to understand this, one has to know/learn how to think critically.
You can also feel free to answer the question I posed. Which teams that PSU beat were good quality teams?
He cant...that guy is a total fanboy that criticizes every post that isn't positive.
WVU and Iowa were the best wins on the schedule. Solid teams...but if those are your marquee wins for a season at PSU...than a fail, IMO.
