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Yesterday Apple released IOS 18.1 which contains the software to use Air Pod 2 Pros as hearing aids. I believe the minimum requirements are iPhone 15 or greater with this update and Air Pod2 Pro ear buds. I downloaded the software and went through the setup process which was relatively easy. My initial reaction after 24 hours is mixed. I'm getting way too much amplification on very low sounds. I can hear silverware touching the plate, light switches and the latch click when you turn a doorknob. This is unneeded and very annoying. The speech, TV etc is pretty good, the noise cancellation has two levels, one is good the other is outstanding. I'm still figuring everything else out and will report any significant findings. One of the things I want to do is to retake the hearing test, to see if maybe I missed a tone that is causing certain frequencies to be over amplified. I also think you can add an existing hearing aid test done elsewhere, but haven't had the time to try this. Based on the cost if you already use an I-phone vs the cost of hearing aids with similar technology these look like a no brainer value. Has anyone else that uses hearing aids tried this software yet? What are your thoughts?
 
Yesterday Apple released IOS 18.1 which contains the software to use Air Pod 2 Pros as hearing aids. I believe the minimum requirements are iPhone 15 or greater with this update and Air Pod2 Pro ear buds. I downloaded the software and went through the setup process which was relatively easy. My initial reaction after 24 hours is mixed. I'm getting way too much amplification on very low sounds. I can hear silverware touching the plate, light switches and the latch click when you turn a doorknob. This is unneeded and very annoying. The speech, TV etc is pretty good, the noise cancellation has two levels, one is good the other is outstanding. I'm still figuring everything else out and will report any significant findings. One of the things I want to do is to retake the hearing test, to see if maybe I missed a tone that is causing certain frequencies to be over amplified. I also think you can add an existing hearing aid test done elsewhere, but haven't had the time to try this. Based on the cost if you already use an I-phone vs the cost of hearing aids with similar technology these look like a no brainer value. Has anyone else that uses hearing aids tried this software yet? What are your thoughts?
I haven't got any experience but want to thank you for your feedback. I am hopeful that it gets refined and better over time. It is very much needed and will be looking forward to progress reports.
 
My sister says they perform better than her $1,400 hearing aids from the audiologist. They're also easier to adjust and operate.

Disadvantage -- they only go about 6 hours on a charge. So if you want to wear them for a whole day, you need to own two pairs (which is still a lot cheaper than most hearing aids).

One thing to know -- they are only powerful enough for mild to moderate hearing loss. If you have more serious hearing loss or "profound" like my Dad, the Apples will not be powerful enough.
 
My sister says they perform better than her $1,400 hearing aids from the audiologist. They're also easier to adjust and operate.

Disadvantage -- they only go about 6 hours on a charge. So if you want to wear them for a whole day, you need to own two pairs (which is still a lot cheaper than most hearing aids).

One thing to know -- they are only powerful enough for mild to moderate hearing loss. If you have more serious hearing loss or "profound" like my Dad, the Apples will not be powerful enough.
You’re correct on the 6 hour battery time. But the case holds a charge and you can get 80% charged in about 20 minutes without a plug. The case will charge the devices quite a few times, 6 or more on one charge. That’s a trade off I’m willing to take for the difference in cost. The cost from the legacy hearing aid providers can be up in 5 figures.
 
My MIL has “profound” hearing loss. The Audiologist reminded her that they are hearing “aids”. They don’t fix hearing, but they aid as much as possible. She paid $$$$$ for her top of the line model and still struggles.

Hearing loss sucks for all involved. I do hope advances continue to improve and costs come down as I approach the decision.
 
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Thank you OK. I use hearing aids from Costco with mixed results. I look forward to any updates or additional information.
 
You’re correct on the 6 hour battery time. But the case holds a charge and you can get 80% charged in about 20 minutes without a plug. The case will charge the devices quite a few times, 6 or more on one charge. That’s a trade off I’m willing to take for the difference in cost. The cost from the legacy hearing aid providers can be up in 5 figures.
Dang. The good news is, for $180, you can get a second pair. And, btw, kids wear earbuds 7x24x365 so it isn’t unusual to have them in. At airports too.

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Apple 18.3 just dropped. Also, FYI, they dropped the Airbuds hearing aid capability just a couple of weeks ago.

Take advantage of the new features some are really cool

 
It’s been about 90 days since my original post and I thought I’d give a follow up on my experiences. Here are my observations on their effectiveness vs my conventional hearing aids. As a point of reference my devices were purchased from a long standing local provider that has taken care of my needs for the last 10+ years. My current hearing aids were purchased about 4 years ago at a cost of around $5,000. They do an annual hearing test and my hearing loss is considered mild, and has remained very stable.

Hearing Test
I have hard copies of my last six hearing tests. I took 2 on the iPhone and the results were almost identical. The hearing aids function on the iPhone adjusts the devices to your hearing test result(s), and you can actually add the results of outside hearing tests if you want to. Grade A.

Phone Calls & Music.
The Air pods deliver clearer and easier to comprehend sound. The huge advantage is that you can adjust the volume to suit your need on each individual call and can even adjust the balance L to R. I didn’t find this feature necessary but someone with a problem specific to ear one might. Grade A+.

Noise reduction.
My current devices do not provide this feature, except to have five levels of volume which turns everything up or down. The AirPods have four levels of background noise reduction from zero to total. When total you are effectively deaf with the exception of whatever is being delivered through the phone. Definitely useful if you’re sitting in an airport, sleeping in a car, etc. but the noise reduction is so complete that you don’t hear things you need to while driving or say, on a treadmill. The first level of noise reduction is about right for me most of the time. Where the Air pods do perform better is a noisy restaurant, in wind, road noise, etc. Grade A

Battery life.
My old devices went 8-9 days on a set of throw away batteries at a cost of a couple of dollars per week. The Air pods are rechargeable and I’ve been getting about six hours before needing a recharge. They recharge pretty quickly, 30 minutes or so, but this still requires having them down for that amount of time twice per day. This is my biggest complaint and hopefully Apple will find a way to get at least a whole day without a recharge. Grade D.

Comfort and fit.
The Air pods fit comfortably and they come with four different size tips. There is a test to determine which size gives you the best seal to keep unwanted sound out. My old devices have three different sizes of tips but it’s trial and error as to which ones feel and perform the best. Grade B.

Conversation, hearing and comprehension.
This is probably the most important function for a hearing aid. I feel like the Air pods are about the same or slightly better due to the ability to adjust volume. I still have the same challenges of comprehension when someone is behind me or speaking in a low voice. A feature that helps a lot with music or television is you can easily pair the devices to any TV either bluetooth which gives excellent hearing and comprehension. The downside to this is that only you can hear it. I did not spend a lot of time with this but if you could get the audio through the Air pods while others get it from external speaker it would be a great feature. Grade B.

Overall.
I’ve worn my devices all day every day in as many different environments as I can and given the price difference I would say that if you already have an iPhone (It must be a 15 or newer) the Air Pods are an no-brainer value at around $180. I think they would still be a good value even if you have to buy a phone. Grade B+

These are my opinions which are of course totally subjective. I would like to hear from anyone else on the board with their experiences and opinions. I would also like to know of any other features you've found useful that I haven't mentioned.
 
It’s been about 90 days since my original post and I thought I’d give a follow up on my experiences. Here are my observations on their effectiveness vs my conventional hearing aids. As a point of reference my devices were purchased from a long standing local provider that has taken care of my needs for the last 10+ years. My current hearing aids were purchased about 4 years ago at a cost of around $5,000. They do an annual hearing test and my hearing loss is considered mild, and has remained very stable.

Hearing Test
I have hard copies of my last six hearing tests. I took 2 on the iPhone and the results were almost identical. The hearing aids function on the iPhone adjusts the devices to your hearing test result(s), and you can actually add the results of outside hearing tests if you want to. Grade A.

Phone Calls & Music.
The Air pods deliver clearer and easier to comprehend sound. The huge advantage is that you can adjust the volume to suit your need on each individual call and can even adjust the balance L to R. I didn’t find this feature necessary but someone with a problem specific to ear one might. Grade A+.

Noise reduction.
My current devices do not provide this feature, except to have five levels of volume which turns everything up or down. The AirPods have four levels of background noise reduction from zero to total. When total you are effectively deaf with the exception of whatever is being delivered through the phone. Definitely useful if you’re sitting in an airport, sleeping in a car, etc. but the noise reduction is so complete that you don’t hear things you need to while driving or say, on a treadmill. The first level of noise reduction is about right for me most of the time. Where the Air pods do perform better is a noisy restaurant, in wind, road noise, etc. Grade A

Battery life.
My old devices went 8-9 days on a set of throw away batteries at a cost of a couple of dollars per week. The Air pods are rechargeable and I’ve been getting about six hours before needing a recharge. They recharge pretty quickly, 30 minutes or so, but this still requires having them down for that amount of time twice per day. This is my biggest complaint and hopefully Apple will find a way to get at least a whole day without a recharge. Grade D.

Comfort and fit.
The Air pods fit comfortably and they come with four different size tips. There is a test to determine which size gives you the best seal to keep unwanted sound out. My old devices have three different sizes of tips but it’s trial and error as to which ones feel and perform the best. Grade B.

Conversation, hearing and comprehension.
This is probably the most important function for a hearing aid. I feel like the Air pods are about the same or slightly better due to the ability to adjust volume. I still have the same challenges of comprehension when someone is behind me or speaking in a low voice. A feature that helps a lot with music or television is you can easily pair the devices to any TV either bluetooth which gives excellent hearing and comprehension. The downside to this is that only you can hear it. I did not spend a lot of time with this but if you could get the audio through the Air pods while others get it from external speaker it would be a great feature. Grade B.

Overall.
I’ve worn my devices all day every day in as many different environments as I can and given the price difference I would say that if you already have an iPhone (It must be a 15 or newer) the Air Pods are an no-brainer value at around $180. I think they would still be a good value even if you have to buy a phone. Grade B+

These are my opinions which are of course totally subjective. I would like to hear from anyone else on the board with their experiences and opinions. I would also like to know of any other features you've found useful that I haven't mentioned.
Awesome....thanks for the review. Relative to your biggest complaint (battery life), at $200 per you can probably get ten of them and still be under the money spent for the old hearing aids (and look cool to boot!).
 
It’s been about 90 days since my original post and I thought I’d give a follow up on my experiences. Here are my observations on their effectiveness vs my conventional hearing aids. As a point of reference my devices were purchased from a long standing local provider that has taken care of my needs for the last 10+ years. My current hearing aids were purchased about 4 years ago at a cost of around $5,000. They do an annual hearing test and my hearing loss is considered mild, and has remained very stable.

Hearing Test
I have hard copies of my last six hearing tests. I took 2 on the iPhone and the results were almost identical. The hearing aids function on the iPhone adjusts the devices to your hearing test result(s), and you can actually add the results of outside hearing tests if you want to. Grade A.

Phone Calls & Music.
The Air pods deliver clearer and easier to comprehend sound. The huge advantage is that you can adjust the volume to suit your need on each individual call and can even adjust the balance L to R. I didn’t find this feature necessary but someone with a problem specific to ear one might. Grade A+.

Noise reduction.
My current devices do not provide this feature, except to have five levels of volume which turns everything up or down. The AirPods have four levels of background noise reduction from zero to total. When total you are effectively deaf with the exception of whatever is being delivered through the phone. Definitely useful if you’re sitting in an airport, sleeping in a car, etc. but the noise reduction is so complete that you don’t hear things you need to while driving or say, on a treadmill. The first level of noise reduction is about right for me most of the time. Where the Air pods do perform better is a noisy restaurant, in wind, road noise, etc. Grade A

Battery life.
My old devices went 8-9 days on a set of throw away batteries at a cost of a couple of dollars per week. The Air pods are rechargeable and I’ve been getting about six hours before needing a recharge. They recharge pretty quickly, 30 minutes or so, but this still requires having them down for that amount of time twice per day. This is my biggest complaint and hopefully Apple will find a way to get at least a whole day without a recharge. Grade D.

Comfort and fit.
The Air pods fit comfortably and they come with four different size tips. There is a test to determine which size gives you the best seal to keep unwanted sound out. My old devices have three different sizes of tips but it’s trial and error as to which ones feel and perform the best. Grade B.

Conversation, hearing and comprehension.
This is probably the most important function for a hearing aid. I feel like the Air pods are about the same or slightly better due to the ability to adjust volume. I still have the same challenges of comprehension when someone is behind me or speaking in a low voice. A feature that helps a lot with music or television is you can easily pair the devices to any TV either bluetooth which gives excellent hearing and comprehension. The downside to this is that only you can hear it. I did not spend a lot of time with this but if you could get the audio through the Air pods while others get it from external speaker it would be a great feature. Grade B.

Overall.
I’ve worn my devices all day every day in as many different environments as I can and given the price difference I would say that if you already have an iPhone (It must be a 15 or newer) the Air Pods are an no-brainer value at around $180. I think they would still be a good value even if you have to buy a phone. Grade B+

These are my opinions which are of course totally subjective. I would like to hear from anyone else on the board with their experiences and opinions. I would also like to know of any other features you've found useful that I haven't mentioned.
Thanks for posting, OKLionFan. This is very useful to me. I have perfect hearing in my left ear but am totally deaf in my right ear. My right acoustic nerve was destroyed by a radiation treatment about 20 years ago. This presents big problems for me in certain situations. When I find myself in quiet rooms I have no problem at all hearing or communicating with others. However, when there is ambient noise (like at a restaurant that plays background music or say a bowling alley) my left ear gets overwhelmed by the loud ambient noise and I can't hear others when they speak to me unless I put my left ear almost against their face!! My ear docs have suggested that I try a device that puts a hearing aid in my bad ear and then the sound that enters this hearing aid is routed to my good ear. Thus, my one good acoustic nerve would receive sound directed to both ears. Could the Air Pods be setup in this fashion? Could the right Air Pod send the sound it receives to the left ear?? Just wondering. Thanks again for posting and good luck to you.
 
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It’s been about 90 days since my original post and I thought I’d give a follow up on my experiences. Here are my observations on their effectiveness vs my conventional hearing aids. As a point of reference my devices were purchased from a long standing local provider that has taken care of my needs for the last 10+ years. My current hearing aids were purchased about 4 years ago at a cost of around $5,000. They do an annual hearing test and my hearing loss is considered mild, and has remained very stable.

Hearing Test
I have hard copies of my last six hearing tests. I took 2 on the iPhone and the results were almost identical. The hearing aids function on the iPhone adjusts the devices to your hearing test result(s), and you can actually add the results of outside hearing tests if you want to. Grade A.

Phone Calls & Music.
The Air pods deliver clearer and easier to comprehend sound. The huge advantage is that you can adjust the volume to suit your need on each individual call and can even adjust the balance L to R. I didn’t find this feature necessary but someone with a problem specific to ear one might. Grade A+.

Noise reduction.
My current devices do not provide this feature, except to have five levels of volume which turns everything up or down. The AirPods have four levels of background noise reduction from zero to total. When total you are effectively deaf with the exception of whatever is being delivered through the phone. Definitely useful if you’re sitting in an airport, sleeping in a car, etc. but the noise reduction is so complete that you don’t hear things you need to while driving or say, on a treadmill. The first level of noise reduction is about right for me most of the time. Where the Air pods do perform better is a noisy restaurant, in wind, road noise, etc. Grade A

Battery life.
My old devices went 8-9 days on a set of throw away batteries at a cost of a couple of dollars per week. The Air pods are rechargeable and I’ve been getting about six hours before needing a recharge. They recharge pretty quickly, 30 minutes or so, but this still requires having them down for that amount of time twice per day. This is my biggest complaint and hopefully Apple will find a way to get at least a whole day without a recharge. Grade D.

Comfort and fit.
The Air pods fit comfortably and they come with four different size tips. There is a test to determine which size gives you the best seal to keep unwanted sound out. My old devices have three different sizes of tips but it’s trial and error as to which ones feel and perform the best. Grade B.

Conversation, hearing and comprehension.
This is probably the most important function for a hearing aid. I feel like the Air pods are about the same or slightly better due to the ability to adjust volume. I still have the same challenges of comprehension when someone is behind me or speaking in a low voice. A feature that helps a lot with music or television is you can easily pair the devices to any TV either bluetooth which gives excellent hearing and comprehension. The downside to this is that only you can hear it. I did not spend a lot of time with this but if you could get the audio through the Air pods while others get it from external speaker it would be a great feature. Grade B.

Overall.
I’ve worn my devices all day every day in as many different environments as I can and given the price difference I would say that if you already have an iPhone (It must be a 15 or newer) the Air Pods are an no-brainer value at around $180. I think they would still be a good value even if you have to buy a phone. Grade B+

These are my opinions which are of course totally subjective. I would like to hear from anyone else on the board with their experiences and opinions. I would also like to know of any other features you've found useful that I haven't mentioned.

1) Buy a 2nd set and you don't have to wait while they recharge. 2) The TV (or other device) can usually be configured to output both bluetooth and tv speaker. Check your settings, as this is a feature of the device, not the bluetooth connection. I know LG tvs are easy to set up the way you want.
 
1) Buy a 2nd set and you don't have to wait while they recharge. 2) The TV (or other device) can usually be configured to output both bluetooth and tv speaker. Check your settings, as this is a feature of the device, not the bluetooth connection. I know LG tvs are easy to set up the way you want.
I suspected that, I just haven’t taken the time to figure it out. Thanks for the info.
 
Thanks for posting, OKLionFan. This is very useful to me. I have perfect hearing in my left ear but am totally deaf in my right ear. My right acoustic nerve was destroyed by a radiation treatment about 20 years ago. This presents big problems for me in certain situations. When I find myself in quiet rooms I have no problem at all hearing or communicating with others. However, when there is ambient noise (like at a restaurant that plays background music or say a bowling alley) my left ear gets overwhelmed by the loud ambient noise and I can't hear others when they speak to me unless I put my left ear almost against their face!! My ear docs have suggested that I try a device that puts a hearing aid in my bad ear and then the sound that enters this hearing aid is routed to my good ear. Thus, my one good acoustic nerve would receive sound directed to both ears. Could the Air Pods be setup in this fashion? Could the right Air Pod send the sound it receives to the left ear?? Just wondering. Thanks again for posting and good luck to you.

Yesterday Apple released IOS 18.1 which contains the software to use Air Pod 2 Pros as hearing aids. I believe the minimum requirements are iPhone 15 or greater with this update and Air Pod2 Pro ear buds. I downloaded the software and went through the setup process which was relatively easy. My initial reaction after 24 hours is mixed. I'm getting way too much amplification on very low sounds. I can hear silverware touching the plate, light switches and the latch click when you turn a doorknob. This is unneeded and very annoying. The speech, TV etc is pretty good, the noise cancellation has two levels, one is good the other is outstanding. I'm still figuring everything else out and will report any significant findings. One of the things I want to do is to retake the hearing test, to see if maybe I missed a tone that is causing certain frequencies to be over amplified. I also think you can add an existing hearing aid test done elsewhere, but haven't had the time to try this. Based on the cost if you already use an I-phone vs the cost of hearing aids with similar technology these look like a no brainer value. Has anyone else that uses hearing aids tried this software yet? What are your thoughts?
If you want to text me at miller.jim.2000@gmail.com I’ll send you a screenshot of my settings. I couldn’t figure a way to just copy and paste it.
 
Thank you for the insight. I purchased my hearing aids from costco about 2 years ago. I am generally satisfied as they refurbish them any time I am in the store. My only concern is they had to be shipped out to have a microphone? replaced on three occasions. Not a big deal as they are covered by the warranty for 3 years. My concern is once they are out of warranty how much that service may cost me. The Apple product will definitely be an option for me to consider.
 
Thank you for the insight. I purchased my hearing aids from costco about 2 years ago. I am generally satisfied as they refurbish them any time I am in the store. My only concern is they had to be shipped out to have a microphone? replaced on three occasions. Not a big deal as they are covered by the warranty for 3 years. My concern is once they are out of warranty how much that service may cost me. The Apple product will definitely be an option for me to consider.
To be clear, the hearing aid business has been deregulated. In August 2022, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) finalized a rule allowing over-the-counter (OTC) hearing aids for adults with mild to moderate hearing loss. The new rule went into effect in October 2022.

The result is that dozens of companies now have over-the-counter products to aid hearing (purposely not using the term "hearing aid" because that suggests a certain product or type of product). Eargo is one such product. I saw Verizon pitching one in their store just the other day.
Google's AI says:
How does this deregulation impact hearing aids?
  • Accessibility
    The new rule allows consumers to buy hearing aids without a medical exam or fitting from an audiologist. This improves access to hearing aids and could lower costs.

  • Safety
    The FDA lowered the maximum sound output of OTC hearing aids to reduce the risk of hearing damage from over-amplification. The FDA also set a minimum distance between the hearing aid and the eardrum to reduce the risk of injury.
Who can buy OTC hearing aids?
  • The new rule applies to adults 18 years of age and older with perceived mild to moderate hearing loss.

  • Hearing aids for more severe hearing loss or for users younger than age 18 remain prescription devices.
 
I purchased an over-the-counter pair called Lexie so far so good. They were about $900 and were much better than the ones that I purchased about eight years ago from Costco for 2600 . I can receive phone calls through them , but I can’t get music.
 
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