OT- Chambers quits
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He Quit?? He resigned after an investigation and a meeting with his bosses. I liked the job he did.......but he did not quit willingly. Let's be honest here.
Oh I am sure he was forced out, but officially he resigned. I do not follow BBall, and didn’t think he did that great of a job, until it came together somewhat last year. But then I believe they fell apart towards the end. Is my memory correct?
They were pretty solid last year. The team bought into the defensive scheme last year and the results improved. They lost a lot of close games the previous years but last year they won a good many close games...even with a few injuries. They played like a team last year. Chambers did a nice job last year...but it seems that previous indiscretions got him forced to "Resign"
He won something like 26 games the year before last and went the tourney. Then had his team positioned to go again last year. It takes time but I think he did a pretty good job. Penn state isn't really a hub for hs basketball lol.
Curtis, put down your Dobro ... Chambers was coach for 9 seasons. He did NOT make the NCAA tourney the year before last. Two years ago they won the NIT. The next year they bombed under .500. Last year of course was a shame that they didn't get the NCAA bid. They deserved it. Lamar deserved more (failed to get the career scoring record and failed to get to NCAAs).
Chambers certainly elevated the team above what Ed D left for him, and many will argue that we do not commit enough to get to the next level. But he didn't get it done. Time to move on.
Say what? LOL. We went to the NIT (and won which was great) but did NOT go to the NCAA, which is THE TOURNEY. That said IMHO Chambers was slowly getting the team better. As you say PSU has never been a real Bball power and may never be. Still, we can be with the right coach.
From what I could see he was making some inroads in the Philly area which would greatly help the program. I see PSU as a once a decade tournament team. Seems odd given the proximity to all of the local talent in the Philly/DC area that the program is stagnant. Traditions in Bball are hard to overcome and the traditional powers scarf up most of the talent - sound familiar?
Actually, nothing could be further from the truth in hoops, unless you mean the 1-and-out recruits.
Last year's final top 10 included 3 Dayton, 4 Florida State, 5 Baylor, 6 San Diego State, 7 Creighton. A number of traditional non-factors in the top 25. Meanwhile, Duke outside top 10, North Carolina unranked.
2019 top 2 seeds were largely the big boys -- but how did Tennessee get in there?
2018 Xavier got the #1 overall seed. Loyola-Chicago made the Final 4.
The Oregons and Tennessees and Butlers of the world have been getting a number of high seeds. Gonzaga is certainly a power today but not a traditional power.
Traditional powers UCLA and Indiana aren't all that powerful any more.
Do we really need to keep going?
The Dukes, UNCs, and Kentuckys are not preventing other teams from landing enough talent to compete. There may be legit reasons why PSU has struggled in this area, but not this. It's an excuse.
Traditional powers still get the top talent. There is a reason Duke, NC, UCLA & Kentucky are there more often than not. The increase in teams in the tournament also plays a role. How Did Edinboro break into the Top ten not to long ago in wrestling, it happens now & then.
I wrote too much to get my point across:
We're not competing with Duke and Kentucky. You're right, they're getting theirs anyway.
Xavier and Loyola and Butler and Tennessee and Oregon and many more prove that there's plenty of talent after Duke and Kentucky gets theirs. We just aren't getting it.
BTW, we know how Edinboro did it: Bruce Baumgartner + Tim Flynn + proximity to Pittsburgh, Cleveland, and Buffalo. VT and NC State (and now UNC) are better comparisons.
There is a LOT of talent to go around. The main difference I see is that many of the "Big" schools get the "best of the best" but they are often One and Done at Kentucky, Duke ,Kansas, North Carolina etc. while Butler, Gonzaga and other "Surprise" teams often have a team of upperclassman that have played together longer. Last year at Penn State was more like the latter. I do know for many years that Penn State got commitments from Inner City Kids and they were shocked by the Isolated "Country" atmosphere at State College and left. The Penn State Area has expanded and become much more diverse in music and other offerings......So....That has not been the case the last few years. I do think the prospects for a continuous improvement at Penn State is promising. I am pretty confident that if/when PSU grabs a couple of blue Chippers to stay....it could usher in a consistent streak of good competitive teams. Hopefully very soon. I really do think a Cael Sanderson type hire could do for basketball somewhat close to the success as the Cael Hire. Get it Done
SIAP reasons behind Chambers exit. Apparently he was a huge a..hat!
https://www.pennlive.com/pennstatef...MJVGPhrYn3pm7mWBozPLghJLVv_SSTEiO2Hp3eXV-wdr8
https://www.pennlive.com/pennstatef...MJVGPhrYn3pm7mWBozPLghJLVv_SSTEiO2Hp3eXV-wdr8
It turns out the guy is so stupid that when an intruder broke into his house, he ran downstairs, dialed 9-1-1 on the microwave, and couldn't find the "CALL" button.
Also, he’s so dumb, when he was driving to Disneyland, he saw a sign that said "Disneyland left," so he went home.
There isn't a lot of detail. There was an investigation lead by Robert Boland and Suzanne Adair. They called every past player and assistant they could with in-depth interviews lasting up to an hour. They got a lot of bad feedback and uncovered another previously unknown and unrelated disturbing event.
It was enough for Barron and Barbour to immediately ask for his resignation. There was some input from Josh Reaves that were not very flattering to Chambers.
But it sounds like there was another single disturbing revelation. But it was not detailed.
I remember PSU's b-ball having problems going back to when I was in HS (a LONG time ago). An example was a classmate of mine from SCHS, Barry Parkhill. Barry was a 2-time all-state b-ball player and was never recruited to go to PSU (at least not a scholarship). Barry, was pretty good, so he ended up going to UVA and was a 2-time all-american and went on to the pros. After Ralph Sampson, he's still one of the best-known former UVA b-ball players. But, PSU never recruited him out of their own backyard.
I remember Barry very well, and Bruce, and their sister Janet. PSU bball back then seemed to this local yokel to be very good, but that was because we played Bucknell, Lock Haven, etc. When we played top 20 teams, which was rare, we got hammered. I remember Rutgers coming to Rech Hall with AA Bob Llyod and smoking us when I was in junior high. It was an eye opener.
Kind of like PSU baseball could not be interested Matt Adams, 95 mph left handed throwing Prestash from West Branch or Montoursville's Mike Musina.
Kind of like PSU softball.......not recruiting local D-6 ladies that are part of many PA state championship? Mind boggling. They continue to be mediocre.
Mussina wasn't interested in PSU Baseball.
"I knew I had to go down South some place or out West some place if I was going to play and make the most of my baseball career college-wise. "
Mussina became top recruit while playing at Montoursville
EDITORâSâNOTE: This is the fourth story in a 17-part series looking at Mike Mussinaâs journey from Montoursville to the National Baseball Hall of Fame A devastating knuckle curveball at his disposal, a state championship on his resume, Montoursville pitcher/shortstop Mike Mussina had created...
Calling Penn State baseball and softball mediocre is giving both programs a huge benefit of the doubt.
Penn State did not even bother to recruit him. His coach early in Musina's career tried to get PSU coaches interested, but nothing. That doesn't mean if PSU had tried he still doesn't go to Stanford.Mussina wasn't interested in PSU Baseball.
"I knew I had to go down South some place or out West some place if I was going to play and make the most of my baseball career college-wise. "
Mussina became top recruit while playing at Montoursville
EDITORâSâNOTE: This is the fourth story in a 17-part series looking at Mike Mussinaâs journey from Montoursville to the National Baseball Hall of Fame A devastating knuckle curveball at his disposal, a state championship on his resume, Montoursville pitcher/shortstop Mike Mussina had created...www.sungazette.com
Hell another one is Philipsburg's Condo. Jon went to Maryland and became a long snapper that led to a long NFL career. In high school Jon was an all state catcher with a baseball offer from Standford. No interest from the powerful PSU program though.
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