OT: How long would you wait for a late interview hire
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We won't conduct the interview if they're more than 5 minutes late but if they're late, even a minute, there's no chance I'm hiring them. For an "in-person" interview they should have already made the trip to avoid getting lost and if they're having trouble locating something the day of them should be calling as they should be there at least 15 minutes early. For a virtual interview, there's no excuse for not being able to work the system and they should be starting the interview 5-8 minutes early but as long as they're on by the start time it's acceptable. If someone can't show up for an interview on time they're going to be an issue.
Even for summer jobs in hs I would plan to be early and sit in my car in the parking lot for 20 minutes
Shit happens therefore I would allow a little latitude especially if it is a strong candidate. How they handle thier tardiness is critical. If they apologize and address it vs ignore already tells you a lot.
We have cell phones now. If a connecting flight was detained by reroute or circling a field for an hour or something similar ... Ok, a late attempt to contact and inform would be acceptable. Otherwise, no call means no offer.There is no one shoe fits all circumstances.
They can't be late at all. No reason is acceptable. It is bad enough that I was part of an interview at an engineering firm and candidate showed up in jeans, button down shirt and a zip up hooded sweatshirt. This was not his first job. We interviewed a young woman who only had two questions for us. 1. Policy on Tattoos. 2 Policy on piercings. It is a different world out there today than even 10 years ago.
As a hiring manager in my mid-fifties, it's becoming increasingly difficult to find people that meet even the minimum corporate standards that one would have expected 10 years ago. My company is a bit old school. Company culture will have to evolve eventually.
The candidate should absolutely take that into consider if offered. Did the interviewer take accountability? Did they apologize for the inconvenience? Did the reason seem legit? Did they have someone inform you they'd be late? Both sides are evaluating each other.
If a candidate showed up in jeans I'd be conducting that interview in less that 15 minutes.
Actually the exact opposite. I was ten minutes early. The office was locked and deserted. I gave them 15 minutes and I went home. The company made the interview appt, even texted me 1hr before the interview to remind me, then basically ghosted me. Ridiculous. Yes, I was at the right place. The company office.
I conduct interviews pretty regularly for a manufacturing facility and it’s unbelievable how many people don’t do the following:
Show up on time
Fill out their entire application
Provide any references
Make any attempt to sell themselves or provide any relevant details of their previous experience
Sometimes I’m given someone’s resume and app and have literally nothing to talk to them about
Show up on time
Fill out their entire application
Provide any references
Make any attempt to sell themselves or provide any relevant details of their previous experience
Sometimes I’m given someone’s resume and app and have literally nothing to talk to them about
I'm olde, but I wouldn't mind having a "keep busy" type job in the State College area. I have multiple degrees, with a professional license, but I have zero interest in anything with responsibility or pressure. The simpler the better, with nights and weekends off. The only thing that keeps me from looking seriously is the state of most work environments today. The comment above about the applicant inquiring about tattoos and skin piercings says it all to me 
PS: I'd be at least 20 minutes early for that 1PM interview.
PS: I'd be at least 20 minutes early for that 1PM interview.
If that was the case they could have advised me of that. I'm a big boy, just tell me and I'll be on my way instead of wasting my time. They obviously had my number, sending me texts. I think they just blew it off. I also think few companies really give a fig anymore.
Did you hire Fetterman?
I’m not anti-tattoo or piercings but what’s going on these days with some people is crazy. We are seeing many many more females with full sleeve or neck and chest, tattoos as well as gauges in their ears and multiple visible piercings. At some point these people have to figure that they’re doing just too much to their body.
Agreed. I do some hiring for different schools, teachers coaches, and even my immediate supervisor as I was offered the spot and chose to not take it due to the hours. And no matter which of those positions it was, we would always see people who were immediate throwaways because they couldn’t do the things you posted above.
Unfortunately, we are hurting so bad for teachers and coaches that some of these people are getting hired and put into a classroom or in charge of running a team. Basically, if you have a bachelors degree and are not a white male you can get a job as a teacher today. You don’t have to have any real skills or knowledge of the subject area. There are regularly dozens of people who we hire that can’t even make it through to Christmas because they think it’s OK to come in late every day or take days off without calling in or just not teaching the material and showing videos to the classes.
Eventually hiring practices will be forced to return to normal because attrition kills companies in many different ways.
I generally agree, however some situations require flexibility. I was recruited via cold call by an exec from a competing ad agency in the early 90s. Casual Fridays were sort of new, and agencies closed at 1 for folks to flee the city.
I agreed to meet the guy at 1:30, in his office, as long as he was ok with me wearing shorts and a polo shirt. Rule #1 was ANYBODY wearing a suit on a Summer Friday was job hunting- and it reflected poorly.
FWIW, the interview went well. He quickly spun me to the team that was hiring- which was competitive to the current brand I was working for. I was offered and enjoyed 4 great years there. A career changing move.
On occasion the guy who spoke to me first said he appreciated the " hutzpah" it took to interview in Stan Smiths, but he also respected the strategy of being up front, and not risking being seen in a suit.
Definitely a good scenario but, like you said, it was made clear up front. If I was told that up front I would have likely tried to get a different time so that wouldn't be a factor or if it was the only time I had move forward without penalty. I think that's just a unique situation though.
Speaking from experience and knowledge of people that have the type of tats and piercings you mention, for many, it can be addicting. They love the artwork or body mods and want more. One of the newer trends out there, is younger women getting tattoos in between their breasts.
One other trend I definitely don’t like, is women getting their breasts and genitals pierced. not a big fan of the taste of metal.
it depends. i hire engineers and I have had a person late and it did not bother me. they lived about 40 minutes away and gave themselves an hour, he said there was a major accident and he showed up about 15 minutes late as the road was shut down. He called me about 15 minutes before the interview, explained the situation of the accident and said that he was out of it now and the GPS said he would arrive at 10:15. Why would I hold that against him? To throw away a good candidate because there was a major accident that nobody can really plan for is just dumb.
on the flip side, i had a guy interview that had a really nice resume, was very good in the interview, but kept asking about work from home. he literally lived in the same town as me and it is a 30 minute commute to work. our office policy is 3 day in, 2 work from home. the guy said he worked 100% remote in his role now and asked about only 2 days in the office versus 3. during the interview he mentioned how he was part owner of a local small micro-brewery that was not too far from the office. in negotiating the job with him, he went from being OK with 2 days in office to requesting that he be able to work only a partial day in the office and leave at lunch and work from home the rest of the day. it got to the point where i just didn't believe that he was give me 40 hours of work as it became obvious to me he wanted to work from home in order to be able to spend time working on his brew pub.
on the flip side, i had a guy interview that had a really nice resume, was very good in the interview, but kept asking about work from home. he literally lived in the same town as me and it is a 30 minute commute to work. our office policy is 3 day in, 2 work from home. the guy said he worked 100% remote in his role now and asked about only 2 days in the office versus 3. during the interview he mentioned how he was part owner of a local small micro-brewery that was not too far from the office. in negotiating the job with him, he went from being OK with 2 days in office to requesting that he be able to work only a partial day in the office and leave at lunch and work from home the rest of the day. it got to the point where i just didn't believe that he was give me 40 hours of work as it became obvious to me he wanted to work from home in order to be able to spend time working on his brew pub.
Having a candidate communicate their situation is the key. There can always be exceptions.
The work from home thing is becoming a real issue. We are a little behind the times on that front. WE do allow it with special approval but as a policy the general answer is no., I am not sure what to think about it. I like being in the office for work. When I did work at home I found myself getting up early working from 5-7 then taking a shower and eating then working another hour or so and then going into the office for the rest of the day.
Depends on the position, depends on the pool. A lot of rules of hiring go out the window these days if you can't find qualified applicants. But obviously, if you can, you don't hire someone who misspells your name in the application letter, and you don't hire someone who's late to their job interview.
Not a fan of this trend…at all.
We experience the following these days: 50% chance job applicants show up for the interview with us, if hired 50% chance they comply with prehire processes, if they comply with prehire about 75% chance they show up for day 1. On top of that you see the same people repeatedly apply for jobs who previously had no follow-through at all. That is a con game just to meet the criteria to keep unemployment benefits in PA . I am rapidly losing faith in our society.
I must be old-fashioned because I find 99% of that unattractive. Just wait until they are hitting their 50s and beyond. They will look absolutely dreadful.
As a high school teacher I see a lot of kids making life long ink decisions too early in life. I do have one small tat on my left hand, but other than that am clean and will likely remain so. I'm not anti-tat, but have seen plenty of kids have "ragrets."
My only "lesson" to them is that there was a time where tats were a subculture to go against conventional norms. It seems like they now are becoming THE NORM for younger folks. So in a way, by trying to be counterculture, many are being the sheep that they think they are rebeling against.
One interesting place where tats are rampant is West Point. My buddy had 3 kids go through USMA over the past 10 years and I've been to many games, parties etc. In a place that tries to break down individuality, tatoos are one of the few means of differentiation....many on arms so that they are visible in short sleeve dress. At a wedding this Summer I do not recall any West Point grad without at least one visible tatoo.
I end my chat by asking if tats are now so popular that shops are seemingly everywhere, and possibly a majority of kids are getting them, doesn't that make the non- inked person the true rebel?
Reading these threads, I am reminded of a young woman that worked for me in the 90's in a laborer position. She always made it known that she struggled financially. Cars reposessed, things like that. She was a single mom and we found out through back channels that her kid went through the school day without eating (she was apparently incapable of taking advantage of the available social services). I felt sorry for her and did everything I could short of giving her money.... until the day she returned from a vacation week with a rather large, unsightly neck tattoo. That was it for me. No more sympathy.
My biggest thing with tattoos is most of them are terrible at the beginning and wear even worse. There are very few truly gifted artists out there. Most are mediocre or worse.
I don't have any but I don't have a problem with them. I just don't understand getting one that can't be covered up if needed. I know they're proud of them but you need the option too.
I have friends running businesses who have noticed this for several years now. Millennials just skipping the job interview and then ghosting the employer. Kind of sucks. But there is a little bit of justice to it. How many employers over the years in tough job markets would take 500 applications and 20 interviews and never bothered to even acknowledge the applicants or return their calls. Ghosting goes both ways.
