OT: Interesting stat on U.S. deaths...

[Sullivan]

Obviously, the numbers are all pre-covid:

Total Deaths
The total number of deaths in the United States increased from 2.4 million in 2009 to 2.8 million in 2017. An increase in deaths can indicate an aging population and/or an underlying public health issue. According to the National Center for Health Statistics, the three leading causes of death in 2017 were heart disease, cancer, and accidents, such as motor vehicle accidents and accidental poisonings (drug overdose).

https://www.prb.org/usdata/indicator/deaths/snapshot/

 

[WDLion]

Obviously, the numbers are all pre-covid:

Total Deaths
The total number of deaths in the United States increased from 2.4 million in 2009 to 2.8 million in 2017. An increase in deaths can indicate an aging population and/or an underlying public health issue. According to the National Center for Health Statistics, the three leading causes of death in 2017 were heart disease, cancer, and accidents, such as motor vehicle accidents and accidental poisonings (drug overdose).

https://www.prb.org/usdata/indicator/deaths/snapshot/

What a worthless article. So as the population increases more people die. I'll bet that states with the most people have the most deaths and the states with the least people have the fewest deaths.

 

[The Spin Meister]

Obviously, the numbers are all pre-covid:

Total Deaths
The total number of deaths in the United States increased from 2.4 million in 2009 to 2.8 million in 2017. An increase in deaths can indicate an aging population and/or an underlying public health issue. According to the National Center for Health Statistics, the three leading causes of death in 2017 were heart disease, cancer, and accidents, such as motor vehicle accidents and accidental poisonings (drug overdose).

https://www.prb.org/usdata/indicator/deaths/snapshot/

Wish this had a little more details. Half of our deaths are self inflicted......drugs, alcohol, gun shootings get the headlines but a huge percentage is because of terrible nutrition and lack of exercise. We could cut our healthcare costs in half if each we just took better care of ourselves.

 

[Thomas1945]

What a worthless article. So as the population increases more people die. I'll bet that states with the most people have the most deaths and the states with the least people have the fewest deaths.

You know I reached the same conclusion. Perhaps we should put our heads together and publish our groundbreaking findings.

 

[WDLion]

Did the population of our country increase by 17% over that period of time?

That seems like a large increase in less than 10 years...

Due to the baby boomers reaching old age, the population percentage of older people could be more than the country as a whole.

 

[nittanyfan333]

Wish this had a little more details. Half of our deaths are self inflicted......drugs, alcohol, gun shootings get the headlines but a huge percentage is because of terrible nutrition and lack of exercise. We could cut our healthcare costs in half if each we just took better care of ourselves.

but that doesn't grab headlines or play on fear now does it?

 

[83wuzme]

Wish this had a little more details. Half of our deaths are self inflicted......drugs, alcohol, gun shootings get the headlines but a huge percentage is because of terrible nutrition and lack of exercise. We could cut our healthcare costs in half if each we just took better care of ourselves.

I am not sure about this. This subject came up during the tobacco settlement business back in the 90’s.
Suppose somebody smokes and dies from a heart attack at 58. How would that compare to somebody who lives to be 88 and spends his last ten years in skilled care with Alzheimer’s ?

 

[Obliviax]

I am not sure about this. This subject came up during the tobacco settlement business back in the 90’s.
Suppose somebody smokes and dies from a heart attack at 58. How would that compare to somebody who lives to be 88 and spends his last ten years in skilled care with Alzheimer’s ?

yeah...its funny...in some ways we are just kicking the can (death) down the road. We will all go through the process, sooner or later. I always think you get so many "health credits" via DNA. Then, you can use them up quickly (extreme sports, smoking, drinking, high stress, etc.) and you can buy some back (quit smoking, work out, eat better, etc.). But in the end, when YOUR credits run out, so do you. Eating better and working out just bend the curve. And, as my dad always used to say, you can't find any old and fat guys.

In the end, its about quality of life and living with the consequences of your actions.

 

[Nitt1300]

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Keith is the living embodiment of the axiom - “the exception that proves the rule”

 

[The Spin Meister]

I am not sure about this. This subject came up during the tobacco settlement business back in the 90’s.
Suppose somebody smokes and dies from a heart attack at 58. How would that compare to somebody who lives to be 88 and spends his last ten years in skilled care with Alzheimer’s ?

First up, for every heart attack that kills at age 58, I can find 5-10 heart attack victims that spend six days in the hospital, three in ICU, some getting stents others having their chests cracked open for bypass surgery, followed by 2-4 weeks in rehab followed by 10-20 years on expensive medicines.....at a huge cost.

Further, proper diet and exercise would practically eliminate adult diabetes and decades of insulin, medications, and major health expenditures. Greatly reducing diabetes would more than offset the costs of Alzheimer’s. Which, by the way, a proper diet and exercise plan also reduces Alzheimer’s.

 

[Ward Hog]

What a worthless article. So as the population increases more people die. I'll bet that states with the most people have the most deaths and the states with the least people have the fewest deaths.

I'll bet that next year California has more deaths than Wyoming.

 

[sammyk]

Yea get off your A$$ fatty McButterpants

 

[83wuzme]

First up, for every heart attack that kills at age 58, I can find 5-10 heart attack victims that spend six days in the hospital, three in ICU, some getting stents others having their chests cracked open for bypass surgery, followed by 2-4 weeks in rehab followed by 10-20 years on expensive medicines.....at a huge cost.

Further, proper diet and exercise would practically eliminate adult diabetes and decades of insulin, medications, and major health expenditures. Greatly reducing diabetes would more than offset the costs of Alzheimer’s. Which, by the way, a proper diet and exercise plan also reduces Alzheimer’s.

I can recall one study that showed no benefit as far as health care savings from nonsmoking, but a societal economic loss due to early deaths and illnesses associated with smoking because it reduced productivity.
As far as Alzheimer’s it can be very costly. As an example, I had an aunt who required skilled care for over a decade that cost over $8000 a month, and that was not in current dollars. That also did not include additional medical expenses she had during those years.
I am not advocating for smoking or euthanasia.

 

[The Stan]

One thing you can do to reduce your chance of getting alzheimers is to be a heavy smoker.

Think about it.

 

[Obliviax]

One thing you can do to reduce your chance of getting alzheimers is to be a heavy smoker.

Think about it.

yeah, you die before you come down with it! Light smokers, it is speculated, also do better against COVID. One theory is that smoking is often a substitute for eating and obesity is a killer of COVID patients.

 

[psu1969a]

Obviously, the numbers are all pre-covid:

Total Deaths
The total number of deaths in the United States increased from 2.4 million in 2009 to 2.8 million in 2017. An increase in deaths can indicate an aging population and/or an underlying public health issue. According to the National Center for Health Statistics, the three leading causes of death in 2017 were heart disease, cancer, and accidents, such as motor vehicle accidents and accidental poisonings (drug overdose).

https://www.prb.org/usdata/indicator/deaths/snapshot/

Numbers don't lie, but misused statistics do!

 

[Texas Lion]

Obviously, the numbers are all pre-covid:

Total Deaths
The total number of deaths in the United States increased from 2.4 million in 2009 to 2.8 million in 2017. An increase in deaths can indicate an aging population and/or an underlying public health issue. According to the National Center for Health Statistics, the three leading causes of death in 2017 were heart disease, cancer, and accidents, such as motor vehicle accidents and accidental poisonings (drug overdose).

https://www.prb.org/usdata/indicator/deaths/snapshot/

As crazy as it sounds....Since the beginning my mother, who is 74 and in poor health, has always stated she feels like this Covid-19 "thing" was an attempt to get rid of older Americans with underlying conditions because of the cost they are to the American Health System.

 

[bison13]

As crazy as it sounds....Since the beginning my mother, who is 74 and in poor health, has always stated she feels like this Covid-19 "thing" was an attempt to get rid of older Americans with underlying conditions because of the cost they are to the American Health System.

The retired gentleman that lives next to me thought it was because they needed to get the Social Security payouts to stop