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OT: McDonald's to put fresh beef in Quarter Pounder

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There's the beef! :eek:

See the link below. From the article:

"Frozen beef is out. Fresh beef is coming to McDonald's Quarter Pounders.

McDonald's (MCD) announced Tuesday that Quarter Pounders in every US store except for ones in Hawaii and Alaska will have fresh beef without added preservatives starting in May.

McDonald's Signature Crafted Recipe burgers will also have fresh beef patties. The switch does not apply to Big Macs and regular hamburgers and cheeseburgers."

http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/06/news/companies/mcdonalds-quarter-pounder-beef/index.html

I'm still not eating at McDonald's.
 
Ewww. I remember not long ago when McDonalds announced that their chicken nuggets were going to be made with real chicken!
 
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BobPSU92 said:
There's the beef! :eek:

See the link below. From the article:

"Frozen beef is out. Fresh beef is coming to McDonald's Quarter Pounders.

McDonald's (MCD) announced Tuesday that Quarter Pounders in every US store except for ones in Hawaii and Alaska will have fresh beef without added preservatives starting in May.

McDonald's Signature Crafted Recipe burgers will also have fresh beef patties. The switch does not apply to Big Macs and regular hamburgers and cheeseburgers."

http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/06/news/companies/mcdonalds-quarter-pounder-beef/index.html

I'm still not eating at McDonald's.
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My gf works for the agency that does their PR. Interesting company. Don't eat it often, besides coffees, but they take food safety/quality really seriously. You pretty much never see any of the issues that plague some other fast food chains (chipotle) despite having something like 10,000 more restaurants.
 
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BobPSU92 said:
There's the beef! :eek:

See the link below. From the article:

"Frozen beef is out. Fresh beef is coming to McDonald's Quarter Pounders.

McDonald's (MCD) announced Tuesday that Quarter Pounders in every US store except for ones in Hawaii and Alaska will have fresh beef without added preservatives starting in May.

McDonald's Signature Crafted Recipe burgers will also have fresh beef patties. The switch does not apply to Big Macs and regular hamburgers and cheeseburgers."

http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/06/news/companies/mcdonalds-quarter-pounder-beef/index.html

I'm still not eating at McDonald's.
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If something is cooked well done, what difference does it really make fresh vs. frozen?
I understand their competition is doing these things, but I doubt it changes the taste much.

LdN
 
BobPSU92 said:
There's the beef! :eek:

See the link below. From the article:

"Frozen beef is out. Fresh beef is coming to McDonald's Quarter Pounders.

McDonald's (MCD) announced Tuesday that Quarter Pounders in every US store except for ones in Hawaii and Alaska will have fresh beef without added preservatives starting in May.

McDonald's Signature Crafted Recipe burgers will also have fresh beef patties. The switch does not apply to Big Macs and regular hamburgers and cheeseburgers."

http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/06/news/companies/mcdonalds-quarter-pounder-beef/index.html

I'm still not eating at McDonald's.
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They already made the fries less tasty by going to vegetable oil instead of good old fashioned lard, and now this? If I was really worried about the healthiness of what I’m eating, I wouldn’t go to McDonalds in the first place.
 
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LionDeNittany said:
If something is cooked well done, what difference does it really make fresh vs. frozen?
I understand their competition is doing these things, but I doubt it changes the taste much.

LdN
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The taste difference is pretty noticeable (fresh is better) if you eat them back to back I've been told.
 
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Wonder if prices are going to eventually go up for the fresh beef burgers. Seems like it's going to make logistics/operations a little trickier (got to use it quicker, supply chain distributing more often, etc.).
 
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LionDeNittany said:
If something is cooked well done, what difference does it really make fresh vs. frozen?
I understand their competition is doing these things, but I doubt it changes the taste much.

LdN
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I don't know if it matters with respect to beef but I am skeptical about buzz words like "fresh" and "natural," etc. Sometimes when you look into it it doesn't really matter. People go crazy for fresh fruits and vegetables but frozen are as healthy if not healthier. There's a lot of woo around food.
 
fastlax16 said:
My gf works for the agency that does their PR. Interesting company. Don't eat it often, besides coffees, but they take food safety/quality really seriously. You pretty much never see any of the issues that plague some other fast food chains (chipotle) despite having something like 10,000 more restaurants.
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The first time I ever saw a health inspection score above 100 was in the local McDonald's. I didn't know scores above 100 were possible before then.
 
LionDeNittany said:
If something is cooked well done, what difference does it really make fresh vs. frozen?
I understand their competition is doing these things, but I doubt it changes the taste much.

LdN
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Not necessarily about taste, it's about health. Preservatives are not good for you. In n out for instance is significantly better for you then most fast food joints (aside from the fact you are still eating hamburgers and French fries.)
 
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Op2 said:
I don't know if it matters with respect to beef but I am skeptical about buzz words like "fresh" and "natural," etc. Sometimes when you look into it it doesn't really matter. People go crazy for fresh fruits and vegetables but frozen are as healthy if not healthier. There's a lot of woo around food.
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It does. Nothing to do with frozen it's the extra crap they put in there other than meat.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_slime

I included a picture above
 
Next up is fresh meat for the McRib. Of course, it's a mystery what kind of meat/gristle that is.
 
AWS1022 said:
They already made the fries less tasty by going to vegetable oil instead of good old fashioned lard, and now this?
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And modern nutrition is leaning toward lard being better for you. An argument for a different thread, but you can look it up if it interests you.
 
tmacpolo said:
Not necessarily about taste, it's about health. Preservatives are not good for you. In n out for instance is significantly better for you then most fast food joints (aside from the fact you are still eating hamburgers and French fries.)
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This isn't about preservatives. This is about Fresh vs. Frozen.
Frozen is a way of preserving food without preservatives.

My point is if you're going to overcook a burger, like McDs does. Why increase the cost significantly by managing fresh meat.

That said, I understand the move for marketing. Mainly because people think it is better.

LdN
 
Frozen fish is often fresher than fresh fish, because it is quick frozen on the boat and doesn’t begin to deteriorate during travel time. I often buy a bag of 6 frozen tuna filets and keep them in the freezer to supplement the fresh salmon or cod I might buy for consumption that night. In the summer I just buy fresh from a seafood market at the shore which catches their own.
 
Having thinly sliced rare roast beef on Pepperidge Farm white with two slices of swiss topped with sweet-spicy mustard & TWO SIDES of Sea-Salt Martin's chips. The beverage is cherry-pomegranate V-8 juice. might as well treat myself to 6-8 TastyKake mini chocolate doughnuts.

Haven't been to McD's in a long time. During Lent in the past, they offered fish sandwich at a two for one price. I always enjoyed the fish sandwiches.
 
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LionDeNittany said:
If something is cooked well done, what difference does it really make fresh vs. frozen?
I understand their competition is doing these things, but I doubt it changes the taste much.

LdN
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Have you ever tasted the difference between a Wendy's hamburger and a McDonalds hamburger... night and day.
 
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LuvDaLions said:
Have you ever tasted the difference between a Wendy's hamburger and a McDonalds hamburger... night and day.
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I guess I never considered the burger part of a mcdonalds burger that important.

Since we're on the McDonalds topic. the last 4 times I've gone I went looking for a shake. Three of those four times the shake machine was down.

I imagine this is some sort of way for the franchisees to push people to more expensive products.

LdN
 
LuvDaLions said:
Have you ever tasted the difference between a Wendy's hamburger and a McDonalds hamburger... night and day.
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I attribute this to Wendy's (as well as other chains like In N Out, Whataburger, etc.) serving meat that is grilled to order. I believe McD's still grills the meat in advance and stores it in a holding cabinet. Whether fresh or frozen, a meat patty that is 30 minutes old isn't going to be as good as one that is less than 5 minutes old. McD's used to only serve meat that had been grilled no more than 10 earlier. That changed when they implemented the temp and humidity controlled meat cabinets and the quality went way, way downhill. They should change that first, as it would have a more of an impact on quality than the fresh vs. frozen meat will.
 
LionDeNittany said:
I guess I never considered the burger part of a mcdonalds burger that important.

Since we're on the McDonalds topic. the last 4 times I've gone I went looking for a shake. Three of those four times the shake machine was down.

I imagine this is some sort of way for the franchisees to push people to more expensive products.

LdN
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Gotta clean the machine at some point. Apparently the clean cycle on them is ridiculously long. Options are to request they serve ice cream out of a dirty machine or invent a machine that is easier to clean.
 
Fresh ground beef mixed with their freeze dried and reconstituted granular soybeans..nice touch.
 
AWS1022 said:
They already made the fries less tasty by going to vegetable oil instead of good old fashioned lard, and now this? If I was really worried about the healthiness of what I’m eating, I wouldn’t go to McDonalds in the first place.
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Reminds me of an old Jay Leno joke. He said that Wendy's announced they were elininating their salad bar. He said They originally offered it for their health conscious customers, but they quickly discovered that they didn't have any health conscious customers.
 
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MJG-90 said:
And modern nutrition is leaning toward lard being better for you. An argument for a different thread, but you can look it up if it interests you.
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Where would my mom's apple pie recipe have been without lard....

Best crust ever.
 
Frozen meat has such a negative stigma.

I buy bulk beef from a butcher every 18 months or so. Those frozen burgers taste as good 18 months in as they do the first day.
 
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interrobang said:
Frozen meat has such a negative stigma.

I buy bulk beef from a butcher every 18 months or so. Those frozen burgers taste as good 18 months in as they do the first day.
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I do as well. And I get a whole hog. If you wrap it properly and make sure to rotate your supply you won't have any issues. You have to have a good deep freezer though.
 
BobPSU92 said:
"Frozen beef is out. Fresh beef is coming to McDonald's Quarter Pounders.
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Had a business class at University of Toledo once and the professor told us McDonalds could make 5 quarter pounders out of 1 pound of beef.
Supposedly, they would keep the ground beef at 32-33 degrees and add crushed ice. Mix it all together and the 1 pound would become 5 quarter pound patties. Thus the reason why they would advertise 1/4# before cooking.
Not sure how valid that information was then, or now. But, if going to all fresh, then it would have to be all burger and not burger/ice mix.

OL
 
OhioLion said:
Had a business class at University of Toledo once and the professor told us McDonalds could make 5 quarter pounders out of 1 pound of beef.
Supposedly, they would keep the ground beef at 32-33 degrees and add crushed ice. Mix it all together and the 1 pound would become 5 quarter pound patties. Thus the reason why they would advertise 1/4# before cooking.
Not sure how valid that information was then, or now. But, if going to all fresh, then it would have to be all burger and not burger/ice mix.

OL
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McDonald's is gross.
 
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OhioLion said:
Had a business class at University of Toledo once and the professor told us McDonalds could make 5 quarter pounders out of 1 pound of beef.
Supposedly, they would keep the ground beef at 32-33 degrees and add crushed ice. Mix it all together and the 1 pound would become 5 quarter pound patties. Thus the reason why they would advertise 1/4# before cooking.
Not sure how valid that information was then, or now. But, if going to all fresh, then it would have to be all burger and not burger/ice mix.

OL
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All meat weighs less after you cook it. Muscle is ~75% water. What happens to water when you expose it to extreme heat?
 
psuro said:
Hey -you are the one that started this thread.

We were all sitting here being oblivious to the grossness of McDonald's. Then you showed up.

Thanks Bob. Thanks a lot. :mad:
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Just trying to help. :D
 
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