OT: Teenage boys should be urged to lift.

[LionJim]

I really wish I had not wasted so much time running in my younger days. Lifting is what I should have been doing all along. For teens, this is a no-brainer, spending an hour in an activity where you can measure your progress every day. At a gym you hang around impressive people who work hard at life. You learn to push yourself consistently and to define success by how much you've improved.

Push the mathematics and push the gym and your son will be ready to make a difference when it's his time.

 

[BobPSU92]

No Peolton?

 

[republion]

I really wish I had not wasted so much time running in my younger days. Lifting is what I should have been doing all along. For teens, this is a no-brainer, spending an hour in an activity where you can measure your progress every day. At a gym you hang around impressive people who work hard at life. You learn to push yourself consistently and to define success by how much you've improved.

Push the mathematics and push the gym and your son will be ready to make a difference when it's his time.

Did you get beat up in the hallways at school a lot? Not sure what prompted this post.

 

[LionJim]

No Peolton?

I have no idea if teenage girls should be urged to lift. My thinking is that they should be, but what the hell do I know? So I decided to leave that part alone.

 

[LionJim]

Not sure what prompted this post.

Who cares? Take it or leave it.

 

[BobPSU92]

Did you get beat up in the hallways at school a lot? Not sure what prompted this post.

LionJim beat up the other kids with his mind. He’s a MATHS. wiz.

 

[BobPSU92]

I have no idea if teenage girls should be urged to lift. My thinking is that they should be, but what the hell do I know? So I decided to leave that part alone.

Fair enough.

 

[LionJim]

LionJim beat up the other kids with his mind. He’s a MATHS. wiz.

LOL, no. It's a long story but there were a lot of people in my high school who kicked my ass mathematics-wise. I'm still only the second-best mathematician in my high-school class. (Number one is quite accomplished and has been a professor at Notre Dame for decades.)

 

[Lion Son/Husband/Father]

 

[psuro]

Who cares? Take it or leave it.

Once you start lifting and getting stronger, I think we have identified who your first target is to beat up.

 

[Lion Son/Husband/Father]

remember, always take it to the ground.

 

[Mister Magoo]

It’s all about pliability my man

 

[anon_1eeb2b426hv3y]

LOL, no. It's a long story but there were a lot of people in my high school who kicked my ass mathematics-wise. I'm still only the second-best mathematician in my high-school class. (Number one is quite accomplished and has been a professor at Notre Dame for decades.)

Classic. One of my best friends from PSU is a math professor at USC. Great guy. Was a frosh when I was a senior but he was seriously brilliant and definitely worth the time in conversation.

For all the dipsticks with PSU (really, any huge state school) degrees, we also had our fair share of geniuses.

and I agree about lifting for young men. Nothing wrong with running AND lifting.

 

[MtNittany]

I really wish I had not wasted so much time running in my younger days. Lifting is what I should have been doing all along. For teens, this is a no-brainer, spending an hour in an activity where you can measure your progress every day. At a gym you hang around impressive people who work hard at life. You learn to push yourself consistently and to define success by how much you've improved.

Push the mathematics and push the gym and your son will be ready to make a difference when it's his time.

If I was a junior golfer today, I would certainly do leg work, but I would never trade flexibility for strength from the waist up. Ever.

 

[LionJim]

If I was a junior golfer today, I would certainly do leg work, but I would never trade flexibility for strength from the waist up. Ever.

It’s not an either-or proposition. There are plenty of men and women in my gym who golf and they tell me that it helps their golf game. (If it didn’t, they wouldn’t lift.) You don’t have to sacrifice flexibility when you gain strength. Of course, no sane golfer would lift as I do,

 

[psuro]

It’s not an either-or proposition. There are plenty of men and women in my gym who golf and they tell me that it helps their golf game. (If it didn’t, they wouldn’t lift.) You don’t have to sacrifice flexibility when you gain strength. Of course, no sane golfer would lift as I do,

Tiger was known to be able to bench press over 300 pounds, regularly, in his hey day.

 

[Nitwit97]

No Peolton?

my understanding from their commercial is Peloton is just for fat wives.

 

[LionJim]

If I was a junior golfer today, I would certainly do leg work, but I would never trade flexibility for strength from the waist up. Ever.

This link is not from my usual lifting website (I couldn’t find anything useful there), so I won’t vouch for it. Still...

https://www.liveabout.com/weight-training-and-golf-1560704

 

[MtNittany]

Tiger was known to be able to bench press over 300 pounds, regularly, in his hey day.

Now he does nothing but band work and flexibility exercises. Joey D's in Jupiter trains the best golfers in the world and there isn't a weight in the building.

 

[demlion]

Teenage boys need to lift my firewood into the truck, lift it onto the splitter, lift the split wood to a stack, and lift the stack into my basement. F this gym bullsh!t! Get some work done!

 

[psuro]

Now he does nothing but band work and flexibility exercises. Joey D's in Jupiter trains the best golfers in the world and there isn't a weight in the building.

I would imagine that to be the case at his current age, and probably as he gets older. No one, not even Tiger, can stop the aging process.
But, he still has strength and muscles (at least from what I have seen on TV and at Bethpage Black in May).

 

[anon_1eeb2b426hv3y]

Teenage boys need to lift my firewood into the truck, lift it onto the splitter, lift the split wood to a stack, and lift the stack into my basement. F this gym bullsh!t! Get some work done!

I’m all for hard work like that-and focused gym work to build balance.

 

[demlion]

I’m all for hard work like that-and focused gym work to build balance.

I usually have some hs kids who help me. I always tell them that I PAY them for the same thing the gym SELLS them

 

[Ranger Dan]

No Peolton?

That’s only for wives...

 

[psuro]

I usually have some hs kids who help me. I always tell them that I PAY them for the same thing the gym SELLS them

You got hotties in yoga pants at your place? Cuz if you do, I will come help you.

 

[demlion]

You got hotties in yoga pants at your place? Cuz if you do, I will come help you.

Yes, as far as you know.

 

[LionJim]

You got hotties in yoga pants at your place? Cuz if you do, I will come help you.

I thought it best not to mention that aspect of the experience.

 

[Cpeplion]

Kids need to be doing the three main strength lifts....overhead press, squats, and deadlifts. It will improve their athleticism immensely.

 

[LionJim]

Kids need to be doing the three main strength lifts....overhead press, squats, and deadlifts. It will improve their athleticism immensely.

Absolutely.

 

[Cpeplion]

As far as girls go...my best friends daughter is 14..she deadlifts 205...none of the other girls can touch her in soccer or keep up with her speed.

 

[Nitt1300]

yes- absolutely

I boxed some, and over three years went from a tall, gangly (and weak) lightweight to a pretty solid middleweight. My old school trainer didn't like weights (most old school boxers didn't) but my dad said 'you've got a long way to go before worrying about being musclebound". Dad wasn't much of a diplomat.

 

[BobPSU92]

Kids need to be doing the three main strength lifts....overhead press, squats, and deadlifts. It will improve their athleticism immensely.

Squats. J.K. Dobbins. Be right back.

 

[MtNittany]

It’s not an either-or proposition. There are plenty of men and women in my gym who golf and they tell me that it helps their golf game. (If it didn’t, they wouldn’t lift.) You don’t have to sacrifice flexibility when you gain strength. Of course, no sane golfer would lift as I do,

Well, show me an amateur golfer w/ big forearms and you'll also be showing me a guy who likely hits it out of bounds a lot.

 

[LionJim]

Well, show me an amateur golfer w/ big forearms and you'll also be showing me a guy who likely hits it out of bounds a lot.

Again, the golfers I see at the gym aren’t musclebound. You can avoid that if you’re a golfer. Lift the wrong way and you can screw up your golf game, sure. But lifting wisely won’t hurt your game.

 

[diontechristmas]

I don’t golf, but the idea that weights make one inflexible and bulky is from the 70’s. Strength training can help with any athletic endeavor as I don’t see how having stronger and better conditioned muscles and tendons is ever a bad thing. Golfers will not be training in the same manner as a DT so I understand that.

 

[diontechristmas]

As far as girls go...my best friends daughter is 14..she deadlifts 205...none of the other girls can touch her in soccer or keep up with her speed.

Yup. Nothing builds explosive power like squats and deadlifts. It’s no accident that Barkley is an amazing squatter and arguably the most explosive player in the NFL.

 

[84Lion]

When I was in high school, I wish that we had had teachers/instructors/coaches who really cared about our personal development and had urged us to lift weights. I don't recall if we even had free weights and I'm sure we weren't taught on them. Sure, you can do push ups and whatnot but you can't target your workouts like you can with weights.

I started running to stay in shape in my early 30s. Wasn't too long after I did a "trial" gym membership and got introduced to the weight machines. I wound up buying my own weight machine, which I still have almost 25 years later and still use every day. I remember the guy at the store said doing weights was worth more than anything else I could be doing. He was absolutely right.

I've tried to get my son into doing weights but for some reason he's uninterested in weights.

 

[OaktonDave]

I would imagine that to be the case at his current age, and probably as he gets older. No one, not even Tiger, can stop the aging process.
But, he still has strength and muscles (at least from what I have seen on TV and at Bethpage Black in May).

Tiger had to adjust his training significantly because of his back issues. He used to do army style road work, and that's gone, too. There are plenty of guys on tour who train with weights, Brooks Koepka and Rory McIroy to name two. As others have said, strength training and flexibility are not incompatible; that thinking was discredited decades ago.

 

[OhioLion]

Sorta kinda rushed through the thread and didn’t read everything closely.
Apologies if already stated - use the right technique at any age. However, starting young is great, but do the lift correctly. Drives nuts to watch HS players try to squat the roof off the building and have knees well in front off their toes and 80% of the weight on their toes.
Lower the weight, correct technique and more reps.

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[83wuzme]

Lifting ?
How about drinking soy products and spending 15 hours a day on your phone ?