OT: that kNU game in 1982

[N&B4PSU]

Whether or not the McCloskey catch was in or out of bounds... or the TD was a scoop off the turf... hard to say... but what fascinated me the most was Jackson's catch on 4th and 11 that almost ended it when it was clearly a FD.

When they replayed it from the side it was obvious he'd easily made the down by nearly 2 yards... but there they were measuring and we barely got it. Imagine we didn't?

Well hell... maybe years later they'd be showing so many replays of us getting hosed and when 1994 rolled around maybe they find a way to even things up.... right? [Y'know, like they did for Doc Tom]

Nahhhhhhh. lol

 

[Option Bob]

I remember that play well, too. And that McCloskey play was such a “bang-bang” play, it certainly wasn’t as obvious as some of the bizarre calls in Michigan and OSU games.

But what really amazes me is that whenever the topic of ref job calls comes up, the counter is always that call from 1982 .... 36 years ago.

 

[The Song Remains the Same]

I am not old enough to remember the 1982 game. So I don't know how questionable the officiating was.

However it is hard for me to imagine anything equaling the ridiculous bulls*** that PSU experienced in its first 12 years in the B1G, all against the same two teams:: 1993 vs. Michigan; 2002 vs. Michigan; 2003 vs. Ohio State; 2005 vs. Michigan.

Some people will point to the 2014 Ohio State game. I feel that was sheer incompetence whereas the above games were extremely bizarre. And in last year's Ohio State game PSU actually got calls here and there. I think that in the 90s and 2000s there were some officials who were as crooked as it gets and they are gone now.

 

[Howie'81]

I remember that play well, too. And that McCloskey play was such a “bang-bang” play, it certainly wasn’t as obvious as some of the bizarre calls in Michigan and OSU games.

But what really amazes me is that whenever the topic of ref job calls comes up, the counter is always that call from 1982 .... 36 years ago.

I've watched that catch frame by frame. McCloskey's toe is still touching the ground when the ball hits his hands. Then it comes up almost at the same time. If there was instant replay, it would have been "call stands," not "confirmed."

 

[KnightWhoSaysNit]

I've watched that catch frame by frame. McCloskey's toe is still touching the ground when the ball hits his hands. Then it comes up almost at the same time. If there was instant replay, it would have been "call stands," not "confirmed."

How were you able to look at it frame by frame? From what I've been able to find on video the west-east camera for the game feed to me is rather fuzzy. Much more difficult to see foot placement from that angle.

I do remember seeing a broadcast some years after the fact that went through PSU's lucky and unlucky breaks in pursuit of national championships. I believe it was on ABC. That play was part of the presentation, but what they showed was a north-south down-the-line view. In the video I remember, the down-the-line view frame-by-frame showed that both feet were off the ground when the ball got to McCloskey's hands. It looked pretty convincing that this was a blown call. I remember thinking the same thing when I saw the play live, as much as I wanted to see it differently through my blue and white glasses.

If you have a frame-by-frame analysis that is clear and shows otherwise please post it. Let's end the controversy. I would love to be wrong.

Would have been nice to play Nebraska for the 1994 championship.

 

[justnitts]

People always overlook two blown calls in the second half of the 1982 game that both resulted incorrectly in Nebraska possession of the football near mid field. PSU had an 11 point lead before the bad calls. The way PSU was moving the ball, without the bad calls the lead might have grown to 25 points. Instead, Nebraska scored two touchdowns to take a very short-lived 3 point lead. Point being, without bad calls in that game, PSU wins in a laugher... There are a few Nebraska fans that remember it that way as well, my deceased ex-father in-law from Lincoln was one of them.

 

[Howie'81]

How were you able to look at it frame by frame? From what I've been able to find on video the west-east camera for the game feed to me is rather fuzzy. Much more difficult to see foot placement from that angle.

I do remember seeing a broadcast some years after the fact that went through PSU's lucky and unlucky breaks in pursuit of national championships. I believe it was on ABC. That play was part of the presentation, but what they showed was a north-south down-the-line view. In the video I remember, the down-the-line view frame-by-frame showed that both feet were off the ground when the ball got to McCloskey's hands. It looked pretty convincing that this was a blown call. I remember thinking the same thing when I saw the play live, as much as I wanted to see it differently through my blue and white glasses.

If you have a frame-by-frame analysis that is clear and shows otherwise please post it. Let's end the controversy. I would love to be wrong.

Would have been nice to play Nebraska for the 1994 championship.

On video.

 

[BBrown]

I remember that play well, too. And that McCloskey play was such a “bang-bang” play, it certainly wasn’t as obvious as some of the bizarre calls in Michigan and OSU games.

But what really amazes me is that whenever the topic of ref job calls comes up, the counter is always that call from 1982 .... 36 years ago.

Not to mention wasn't there a fumble that we recovered that they ruled NE down on? IIRC they (Nebraska) went on to score.

 

[BBrown]

People always overlook two blown calls in the second half of the 1982 game that both resulted incorrectly in Nebraska possession of the football near mid field. PSU had an 11 point lead before the bad calls. The way PSU was moving the ball, without the bad calls the lead might have grown to 25 points. Instead, Nebraska scored two touchdowns to take a very short-lived 3 point lead. Point being, without bad calls in that game, PSU wins in a laugher... Their are a few Nebraska fans that remember it that way as well, my deceased ex-father in-law from Lincoln was one of them.

Thats the way I remember it too.

 

[BOSCO2]

I believe Jon Williams dropped a screen pass that was called a fumble that NE recovered. Clearly an incomplete pass. Whoever has the video, please let me know if I'm wrong on this.

 

[Mufasa94]

I believe Jon Williams dropped a screen pass that was called a fumble that NE recovered. Clearly an incomplete pass. Whoever has the video, please let me know if I'm wrong on this.

I'd have to re-watch to confirm It was Williams, but yes, it was a pass when PSU guy jumped to catch it and was hit while still the air. The ball came loose before he ever got a foot down.

Multiple replays shown during telecast, but ruled a fumble. Play mostly ignored by those with a motive since.

One could say the officials were consistent.

 

[N&B4PSU]

Not to mention wasn't there a fumble that we recovered that they ruled NE down on? IIRC they (Nebraska) went on to score.

Their first drive started inside our 50 and they fumbled. Ref nearest play said we had it... other ref came in and said runner was down. There was no replay, nor was there any conversation by the refs... one guy just overuled the other and that was that... lol.

kNU did not score on that drive (Gill mishandled a 4th and 2 snap and we took him down). We got it back and drove down the field and Todd threw 2 TD's... both called back on what were very obvious movement penalties on us. Then Manca missed the FG (he left 10 points off the board in that game... inlcuding 1 we didn't need, lol).

 

[CJF_Said_The_Great_Joe_Paterno]

People always overlook two blown calls in the second half of the 1982 game that both resulted incorrectly in Nebraska possession of the football near mid field. PSU had an 11 point lead before the bad calls. The way PSU was moving the ball, without the bad calls the lead might have grown to 25 points. Instead, Nebraska scored two touchdowns to take a very short-lived 3 point lead. Point being, without bad calls in that game, PSU wins in a laugher... There are a few Nebraska fans that remember it that way as well, my deceased ex-father in-law from Lincoln was one of them.

I remember the first bad call you refer to quite clearly...PSU had the ball with an 11 point lead and was moving down the field. Then there was a BEYOND OBVIOUS incompletion by PSU on a "swing pass" to a RB/Flankee. The official on the play inexplicably didn't blow his whistle (all of the players were walking back to their respective huddles) - then it appeared the official must have started yelling live ball as the ball just sat on the ground for an inordinate amount of time (and was a beyond-obvious incompletion)...when suddenly all of the players reversed course from walking back to their huddles toward the ball...a UNL player was closest and actually picked it up and ran with it for 15 or 20 yards if I remember correctly! Flat out BS call as even the announcers acknowledged - it wasn't even remotely close to a fumble and not only cost PSU points (they were driving in UNL territory), but gave UNL a short-field in PSU's territory near midfield from where UNL scored a TD!

 

[N&B4PSU]

One of the "highlights" showed both kNU and PSU with 471 yards total offense with under a minute to play. Of course, we added on...

And of course, kNU picked up some extra yards at our expense due to a couple of blown calls earlier in the game.

But that's how the game was played then... no replays, you get what you get.

We got a huge win and went on to be the champs.

 

[Custerdome]

What seems most interesting to me, is how it is used as some sort of crutch on which to base the 1994 National Championships' legitimacy by Nebraska fans: They don't have a leg to stand on, so they lean on some bygone injustice that happened 12 years prior, as a moral reason to justify what was clearly a hoax in voting bias. The 1994 Nebraska national championship is very, very seldom namechecked or footnoted in history, due to it's clear biased outcome. Nebraska fans continue to use 1982 as some kind of justification. It's sort of like, if Alabama fans used 1983 as a reason for any and all wins over Penn State since. They don't. They don't cite it at all, and frankly 1983 can be argued as more controversial than 1982 Nebraska ever was.

 

[BBrown]

What seems most interesting to me, is how it is used as some sort of crutch on which to base the 1994 National Championships' legitimacy by Nebraska fans: They don't have a leg to stand on, so they lean on some bygone injustice that happened 12 years prior, as a moral reason to justify what was clearly a hoax in voting bias. The 1994 Nebraska national championship is very, very seldom namechecked or footnoted in history, due to it's clear biased outcome. Nebraska fans continue to use 1982 as some kind of justification. It's sort of like, if Alabama fans used 1983 as a reason for any and all wins over Penn State since. They don't. They don't cite it at all, and frankly 1983 can be argued as more controversial than 1982 Nebraska ever was.

As far as egregious game calls against go lets bring out the Matt Lehman TD against NEB in 2012. Not to mention some of the flat out blatant calls by a group of officials that thought "We were lucky to be even playing" that night.
Sorry Nebby fans you lost the '82 game and would probably have lost the '94 game as well.

 

[nits74]

What seems most interesting to me, is how it is used as some sort of crutch on which to base the 1994 National Championships' legitimacy by Nebraska fans: They don't have a leg to stand on, so they lean on some bygone injustice that happened 12 years prior, as a moral reason to justify what was clearly a hoax in voting bias. The 1994 Nebraska national championship is very, very seldom namechecked or footnoted in history, due to it's clear biased outcome. Nebraska fans continue to use 1982 as some kind of justification. It's sort of like, if Alabama fans used 1983 as a reason for any and all wins over Penn State since. They don't. They don't cite it at all, and frankly 1983 can be argued as more controversial than 1982 Nebraska ever was.

And you had Beano Cook lobbying for Nebraska. He was caught in a lie on Pittsburgh radio that year. Following the Michigan game he had voted Penn State #1. He said that he never changes his vote going forward until such time as the Number #1 team loses a game. Following our blowout of Ohio State, bam he moves us down to #2. A caller to Stan Savran's show asked them to review the tape of what Cook had said. The following week Stan verified that the caller was correct. Just couldn't bring himself to see his hated rival get the MNC.