OT: Trouble in Aggie Land
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Some may argue, but money 💰doesn’t always buy happiness.
Time to recruit the transfer portal. Weren't several of their coveted DL recruits also interested in PSU. Time to make another play at Elijah Robinson?
They are already wealthy, maybe now they will look for a quality place to play!
Just hope they don’t read this board...........
For all the Franklin haters is there any coach who does less with more than Jimbo Fischer?
Back to back CFP appearances with a title...let's get a grip. Jimbo would still have a powerhouse at FSU if did not leave for the money. That is the lesson, not that Franklin is best option.
He certainly has underperformed this year, especially considering all the preseason hype after ‘buying’ their team this year.
That said, he does have-
-3 conference titles
-1 national title
-6 BCS/ playoff / New Years 6 appearances
-8-2 record in bowls
-120-41 overall record
A&M will be back and very strong next year. Need a QB and they find it in the portal. Those green freshmen will be much bigger and better in 2023. I feel no sorrow for Jimbo.
To be fair most of the good parts of the record you post came from taking over a program that was fairly well positioned from the previous guy, who was kinda good. Now he's on his own in a tremendously fertile recruiting area with more disposable money than most any program on earth and is not getting it done.
Good grief my friend. What year were those b2b playoff appearances? He won a title behind a QB many thought should have been suspended. The program nosedived directly after the title. Jimbo left before he got fired. Go look at his record those final years and read about the similar troubles within the team at the end.
Right, wrong, yes, no?
True, those stats are his all time record at both FSU and Texas A&M. (To be fair, the SEC is a major step up from ACC play. However, don’t excuse his FSU years as being handed a prime program. In the 5 years before Jimbo coached there, FSU was 8-5, 7-6, 7-6, 9-4, 7-6.)
So let’s drop his FSU years that he ‘inherited’ and look at Jimbo’s time at Texas A&M only (2018- present)-
- 0 conference/ national titles
- 3-0 bowl record
-1 New Years 6 bowl
-37-18 overall record
For comparison, let’s look at Franklin’s record 2018-present-
-0 conference/ national titles
-1-2 bowl record
-1 New Years 6 bowl
-37-18 overall record
Those 2 records are almost identical other than Jimbo being better in bowl games.
So if Jimbo “is not getting it done” then can we agree Franklin is not getting it done as well?
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Yes and no. He clearly had behavior issues on the team. No one is claiming he was a saint (personally can’t stand the guy). However, his team did not nose dive after the title and he had only 1 bad year before he left for Texas A&M.
Jumbo’s record at FSU-
2010- 10-4
2011- 9-4
2012- 12-2. ACC champions, NY6 bowl
2013- 14-0. ACC and National champions
2014- 13-1. ACC champions, NY6 bowl
2015- 10-3. NY6 bowl
2016- 10-3. NY6 bowl
2017- 5-6
So you saying there was no difference between the way SEC/Texas handled Wuhan vs how the B1G/Pa handled it?Methinks the excuses are getting weak when confronted with the numbers.
All those 5 star defensive linemen pushed all over the field by Appy State. Probably needs the alumni to dig deeper next year. Did someone make him leave FSU?
If Franklin and PSU were in the ACC, 11-1 and a loss to Clemson would be considered average. And that's after '16. Jimbo WAS the powerhouse there and he let things disintegrate. 5-6 there is about like 3-9 in the Big 10.
I'm not posting this to praise Franklin. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of blasting Franklin and a poster saying "hold up" on Jimbo. We're on pace for 10-2 and it's already deemed a failure. Jimbo goes 10-3 in the ACC BEFORE Clemson even starts their run and it's fine?
Yes, he does, in 2016. He was specifically comparing Jimbo’s time at A&M to the same timeframe for Franklin. 2018-present.
Lol. Did you see FSU his last season and those after? They had zero talent.
He had a losing season and left because he was staring in the face of two more... at least.
The guy tanked the program and is doing the same at AM.
I thought A&M had the no. 1 or 2 recruiting class in the country last year. If that is tanking let's try to duplicate that.
Did you see their record? Just in case you didn't the record is 4-3 with a loss to App State.
They have had top ten classes the last 4 seasons
As the op shows, those classes are going away.
That's called tanking.
Harbaugh is the greatest coach ever with his 1 conference title but to be fair and objective could you say the same thing about the other James?
I think you’re twisting yourself into a pretzel trying to find a way to excuse Franklin despite the same record as Jimbo.
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If you followed A&M this year you would know they had QB problems. Sounds familiar doesn't it? Do you think PSU has been tanking after being 11-11 over two years?
Jimbo has a lot of talent and will have every chance to get it straightened out. Whether he can keep loads of talented players happy and focused the way Saban has is another question. It's a problem a lot of schools would like to have.
True, but not the 2018 to present time frame that was used to compare the 2 to meet the only Texas AM part of Jimbo’s career.
That’s hilarious. You are saying that the Wuhan virus and the way it was handled by Texas/SEC vs that of the B1G/Pa had no impact on any difference in the teams records through that time period?
That is far worse than any pretzel logic and is more like psilocybin crazy talk. You either cannot see the difference or refuse to acknowledge the difference does serious damage to your credibility and that of your position.
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I’m saying it’s 1 year. Do the A&M folks get to choose years to drop too or is that just for you? I gave you a wider comparison that included his years at FSU. Use that if you are fixated on 2020.
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Funny, all I did was post that Tx/SEC handled the Wuhan very differently than Pa/B1G and that difference affected the two coach’s records and you ignore the obvious. Everyone knows it was vastly different and it had a major affect on PSU.
Weird how you are one of the very few that denies that.
