Whatever penn state teams used to conjure up under Paterno have been totally done away with this staff. Discipline, sportsmanship, a team that was going to be physical, play hard, overachieve. Yes, paterno didn't win a ton at the twilight of his career, but I never wasn't sort of proud of the team we fielded and how the coaches/players mostly comported themselves. JPP is the perfect representation of this program. Talented, athletic, great measurables, but he acts like a punk. He lacks discipline, people seem to forget we had to pull him off the field last year all the time because of his PI issues. That body slam against Michigan isn't only dumb, it represents Penn State to a national audience. Lazy offensive linemen that have absolutely 0 toughness, that has defined us too. The locker-room cancers like Wade/Shelton have promoted a certain culture and it hasn't been stamped out. The linebackers like Smith that look like the perfect football players, but get out to the field and seemingly never make a big play. I knew we were in trouble from the jump, this is a team that denigrates its opponents at every moment(thumbs down signs when a DB makes a play), but they didn't do any of that yesterday(minus whatever this halftime deal was). After the Auburn game, we waived to their fans after we won and one of players took a hammer to the SEC logo right in front of Franklin, he didn't much care. I like Franklin enough, I'll always revere the school and this program, I'll continue to watch, but I am not going to hide my total disdain for the way they act and play. Someone mentioned that Franklin is insecure, his players are too. They act like bullies until they actually get punched in the face.