Paterno- NCAA suit going to sealed motions for Summary judgement-ugh
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Well of course they have. And whatever statements are released will of course be touted here as earth-shattering and we all know, it will be nothing.
I really hate this shit. The NCAA had no problem trashing Joe's name, reputation and legacy but now we're talking about confidentially? WTF! Let's get this bullshit out in public and let the cards fall where they may.
bwifan
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They decided to throw in the towel rather than let this play out for another 5 to 10 years. The Coercive Cartel is well versed in the art of lawsuit delay. Not a surprise that the family did not have the endurance for that game.
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bwifan
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I may be totally wrong here but my hunch would be Sue wants some closure here. Sad to think but in 5-10 years she may not be here to see it all play out. For me I could care less about the money it was more a statement/letter released to the public with some sort of apology or statement saying Joe was not involved and did everything he was required.
I think we were all fed a bunch of crap. The A9, the Freeh report examination, the various suits. All turned out to be bullshit.
Remember when Lubrano used to post here and say things like "today was a good day"? There were never any good days. The only thing that ever happened is that one by one, everybody got muzzled. CSS were muzzled. Lubrano got muzzled. Even Demlion got muzzled. Now the Paterno's and Sollers are getting muzzled. You can draw a lot of conclusions about how/why that all happened, and none of them are good.
The best chance there was to uncover was during the Covey trial. Once that asshole politician settled, that was the end. We just didn't know it at the time.
Remember when Lubrano used to post here and say things like "today was a good day"? There were never any good days. The only thing that ever happened is that one by one, everybody got muzzled. CSS were muzzled. Lubrano got muzzled. Even Demlion got muzzled. Now the Paterno's and Sollers are getting muzzled. You can draw a lot of conclusions about how/why that all happened, and none of them are good.
The best chance there was to uncover was during the Covey trial. Once that asshole politician settled, that was the end. We just didn't know it at the time.
Nine times out of 10, power/money/politics wins out. And the Sandusky scandal is not the 1 out of 10 case.
More armchair lawyering. Motions for summary judgment aren't "throwing in the towel." Far from it. They are usually only filed by the defendant, at the close of discovery, and the bar for summary judgment is very high. If the defendants are filing here, and their motion is denied, then the case will proceed to trial. That article, like most "journalism" these days, is amateur, uniformed crap. No context or real information, because the author doesn't know what she is talking about.
paterno.com hasn't been updated in 2 years it seems. Also that was supposed to be the site from which they were going to sell bobbleheads, books, t-shirts etc.
There is still a market for merchandise (though not what it would have been obviously). I guess I don't understand why they don't get on with business - if that is indeed what they want to do.
There is still a market for merchandise (though not what it would have been obviously). I guess I don't understand why they don't get on with business - if that is indeed what they want to do.
Smart move by the Paternos (and Wick Sollers). They really don't have a substantive case against the NCAA. The NCAA had a right to enter into a private agreement with Penn State, as they did with the consent decree. Given that the lawsuit wasn't going to win, the Paternos may as well take whatever money they can get.
Now, we'll see if the Paternos (and Sollers) have some guts ----- go sue Penn State. As I've said for years, that's who their REAL beef is with. It's not the NCAA.
Or conversely, we'll see if Penn State sues the NCAA. Heavily doubtful, but the University itself is the only ones with standing as regards the NCAA not giving due process in July 2012.
Now, we'll see if the Paternos (and Sollers) have some guts ----- go sue Penn State. As I've said for years, that's who their REAL beef is with. It's not the NCAA.
Or conversely, we'll see if Penn State sues the NCAA. Heavily doubtful, but the University itself is the only ones with standing as regards the NCAA not giving due process in July 2012.
Can you explain this further. What if the motion is not denied. Then what?? Will the motions ever be unsealed?? Some of us just want all this shit out in the open. Having anything sealed is another thing that prevents the truth from getting out there.
I don't know if I was clear. I think they've been asked what it would take to make this suit "go away." They want a statement saying that the NCAA is sorry for any damage they may have caused to Joe's reputation. The family is not going to accept money and silence.
It wasn't JVP Jr or Bill Kenney's job to seek the truth....... they simply were part of a lawsuit that may/might provide some retribution to mitigate damages done.
It should be made clear, the fact that this lawsuit was never capable of illuminating any meaningful "truth", is not equivalent to the betrayals of:
- The A9
- The various inhabitants of the OAG office (all of them)
- Jake Corman
- Tom Wolf
Etc etc
Whatever happens from this point on:
This was/is simply a lawsuit that NEVER had any potential to uncover any "truth" (that is "NEVER", as in - - - - NEVER
)......... which was obvious from the beginning - - - the baseless protestations of the masses, and the idiotic cheerleading to the contrary.Even the hypocritical cheerleading from those who should have (and probably did) known better.
Hell, we've seen the same equivocating mentality again just this Spring - - - with the Curley Schultz Spanier bed-shitting fest. The choice to view reality through the blank, non-thinking eyes of sheeple, and the defense of the "shield".
This (the inevitable death of the Paterno suit vav any illumination of meaningful "truth" - - - whenever the final nail is driven into that coffin) is, however, just one more example of the one REAL "Truth":"
Namely - that ain't no one, NO ONE, in a position of standing who has ever taken a principled stand for the truth.
And:
It just ain't gonna' happen - - - especially when there is NO CONSENSUS of "demand" for, or even "support" of, any meaningful pursuit of the truth.
'Cause, "truth" be told, the number of folks who give one damn about the unconflicted "truth"? ...... Who give one damn about any "principle" that doesn't contain "something in it for them"?
The number of folks who check off those boxes? Not many. Damn near none.
Who's gonna' put their balls on the line with nothing to gain in return?
Better yet:
Who's gonna put their balls on the line, with nothing to gain in return........ when the masses don't even know enough to ask for it?
Masses who, instead, applaud those who piss on their legs?
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Your first sentence.......I doubt it - who would offer them money? The NCAA? But who knows for sure.
Your second sentence.....If that should come to pass? Yep.
It doesn't "mean" anything...... not really.
Nothing changes...... just another step in the process.
(apologies for giving a "non-lawyer" answer
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Can anyone tell me what this means?
http://co.centre.pa.us/centreco/med...FOR WITHDRAWAL OF APPEARANCES OF COUNSEL.pdf
http://co.centre.pa.us/centreco/med...FOR WITHDRAWAL OF APPEARANCES OF COUNSEL.pdf
totally agree. Summary judgement is, 9 times out of 10, the case. Win summary judgement and the defendant typically caves. They won't in this case, because the NCAA has no shame, but that is the case for anyone that has something to lose.
bwifan
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Thank You legal eagles for chiming in and letting us know what all this means and we can ignore the rest and their comments who slept at a holiday inn last night
bwifan
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So you're tuning out the OUTRAGE.
Oh hell no... I am outraged already, only decaf coffee in the house this morning!
You have a Chemical Engineering degree. That likely makes you smarter than at least 99% of all attorneys.It doesn't "mean" anything...... not really.
Nothing changes...... just another step in the process.
(apologies for giving a "non-lawyer" answer
"Thank You" ! for a non emotional response and insight...assume you are a Lawyer , yes?
Actually..I just hope some closure comes about before final screenplay finished for Paterno Movie with Al Pacino...
Even if it comes to a settlement and NCAA making some sort of apology...would think that is important in the narrative of how the script and movie on HBO turns out...
Maybe wishful thinking of course...
You have a Chemical Engineering degree. That likely makes you smarter than at least 99% of all attorneys.
At least in math.
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