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Penn State hasn’t lost a game by more than 4 points since September 2016

Would much rather get blown out once a year and go 11-1 than blow two scores leads in the fourth quarter multiple times over that time period.
 
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Would much rather get blown out once a year and go 11-1 than blow two scores leads in the fourth quarter multiple times over that time period.

I wonder if you hold yourself to those type of standards? To be where we are at this point “post sanctions” is a tremendous effort by this coaching staff. The job Coach Franklin has done turning this program around in such a short time is remarkable.
 
I would not get high on your horse about this. The season is not over yet. Plenty of time for potential double digit losses with games against opponents such as Iowa, Wisconsin and Michigan coming up.
 
I would not get high on your horse about this. The season is not over yet. Plenty of time for potential double digit losses with games against opponents such as Iowa, Wisconsin and Michigan coming up.

They’re going to give it their best effort to get the shit kicked out of them.
 
I would not get high on your horse about this. The season is not over yet. Plenty of time for potential double digit losses with games against opponents such as Iowa, Wisconsin and Michigan coming up.

My high horse? My comments are about what this coaching staff has accomplished up to this point. They could lose to Michigan 99-0 and it wouldn’t change the fact they haven’t lost a game by more than 4 points since September 2016.

Get some perspective.
 
Always find these comments amusing. Not once, have I ever heard about our close wins. If you're happy with the way things are, great.

I am definitely thrilled with the job Franklin has done. Be honest, go back to sanction years and ask yourself if you ever in your wildest dreams thought PSU could be back to this point so quickly?
 
Something to keep in perspective for all the crybaby fans out there. That thought crossed my mind last night as I watched Ohio St get blown by Purdue last night 49-20.

Horseshoes and hand grenades, crybaby.
 
I would not get high on your horse about this. The season is not over yet. Plenty of time for potential double digit losses with games against opponents such as Iowa, Wisconsin and Michigan coming up.

Yeah, come back in a few weeks with that weak $hit, NJ.
 
I wonder if you hold yourself to those type of standards? To be where we are at this point “post sanctions” is a tremendous effort by this coaching staff. The job Coach Franklin has done turning this program around in such a short time is remarkable.

Well, if you don't hold yourself to high standards then I wonder what kind of life you're leading!

We can learn a lot from Japanese culture here. About the quest for personal perfection. It's not about getting there because the attainment is fleeting. It's about the journey. Empirical evidence seems to support this. Dollar-for-dollar the Japanese make the best automobiles in terms of cost-of-ownership and durability. But I digress.

By taking this job Franklin knew what he was getting into. As do all head coaches at a P5 program. It is a hyper-competitive environment. You either produce or move on. Given their salaries I've no sympathy for them.

Thank you.
 
Something to keep in perspective for all the crybaby fans out there. That thought crossed my mind last night as I watched Ohio St get blown by Purdue last night 49-20.
According to some posters it would be better if we were blown out all those losses. Why do I think the whiners would just complain about bad recruiting instead of bad coaching.
 
Something to keep in perspective for all the crybaby fans out there. That thought crossed my mind last night as I watched Ohio St get blown by Purdue last night 49-20.
This team is only 2 plays away from being 7-0. We're also only two plays away from being 3-4.

You can spin it any way you want but it's not pretty.
 
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I would not get high on your horse about this. The season is not over yet. Plenty of time for potential double digit losses with games against opponents such as Iowa, Wisconsin and Michigan coming up.

The mind and perspective of a born loser.
 
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I am definitely thrilled with the job Franklin has done. Be honest, go back to sanction years and ask yourself if you ever in your wildest dreams thought PSU could be back to this point so quickly?

That's true to an extent. I've had a few fans of other B1G schools tell me 2016 - 2017 was an aberration. That Penn State would soon return to "mediocrity." To their point, can anyone here deny that Saquon is a once-in-a-generation type running back. Or that Joe Morehead is not a special talent. I think not. Which leads me to believe it's a little bit of both. We were fortuitous in 2016-2017 and we're not as bad as we think we are in its wake.
 
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Look at college football this year, other than Alabama, who has really, really distinguished themselves? We won’t even know how good Alabama really is until they play someone of stature. I think we are looking at a lot of “good” teams this year that have many flaws.
At least we have youth on our side, but I think our offensive strategy needs to change going into next year. We will still have growing pains next year plus only one season Tommy.
 
This team is only 2 plays away from being 7-0. We're also only two plays away from being 3-4.

You can spin it any way you want but it's not pretty.

No spin required. What Franklin has done with this program in the short time he’s been here is nothing short of miraculous.
 
I absolutely do. I am type a to the max and when I screw up, which is regularly like any human being, I overanalyze what went wrong and how I can improve.

Not saying it’s a great trait or even a good thing, but I also don’t talk about being elite and dominating my chosen profession.

Franklin sets himself up for these reactions with the expectations he has set and his wordsmithing
I thought you were a dominant international financier. :D
 
I absolutely do. I am type a to the max and when I screw up, which is regularly like any human being, I overanalyze what went wrong and how I can improve.

Not saying it’s a great trait or even a good thing, but I also don’t talk about being elite and dominating my chosen profession.

Franklin sets himself up for these reactions with the expectations he has set and his wordsmithing
I guarantee Franklin analyzes himself far more than you do. I’m not sure what you do but I doubt you have millions of people judging what you do on a weekly basis and I doubt you’re the face of an entire huge organization. To think that Franklin doesn’t analyze himself as much as Joe the Drywaller is ridiculous.
 
I guarantee Franklin analyzes himself far more than you do. I’m not sure what you do but I doubt you have millions of people judging what you do on a weekly basis and I doubt you’re the face of an entire huge organization. To think that Franklin doesn’t analyze himself as much as Joe the Drywaller is ridiculous.
The guy is a heavy hitter.

https://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threads/so-maybe-it-wasn’t-joemo.220667/page-2#post-3714637

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I manage global teams for a large bank trading derivatives and futures. If you wanted to argue with me on the intricacies of a credit default swap because you read investopedia.com, agree it would be a bit asinine. If you wanted to question my leadership skills because I put someone who is not numerate in charge of developing our quantitative model for our new structured derivative transaction, that would be more than fair game.
 
I'm afraid this will end in Ann Arbor

the next two games will tell a lot. Iowa held Maryland to 115 yds and UMich held Sparty to 94 yds. not sure what to expect but I took a bet from a friend who is betting we do not get over a total of 400 yds offense for the next two games so avg under 200 total yds per game. my buddy is a Wisky fan and thinks we are going to beat his team but get totally hammered by the Hawks and UMich. he is a PSU fan but thinks we just don't have the players to compete.
 
The mind and perspective of a born loser.
No, the mind of a realist. There are some tough games left and if the ball bounces the wrong way as it does sometimes, there could be a 10 point or more loss. I don’t want one, or any more losses for that matter, but it is going to be a tough road ahead.

It’s great that we haven’t had a blowout loss in a long time. However, it would have been nice to have won one or more of those close losses.
 
He set himself up for this by winning too much?

He has a goal to win a national championship. Should he not have that goal?

Of course that should be the goal, compounded with his early successes, expectations are unreasonably sky high for the team. He is going to be under intense scrutiny , especially making millions a of dollars of year.

Every decision he makes will come into question. Why we, the general public cannot question him for his abhorrent decision making at times is confusing to me?

For the record, I thought at the beginning of the year with our talent, we were 9-3 at best.

That doesn’t mean I can’t get frustrated when we give away games because of coaching stupidity, preparation, motivation.

Can’t stand Urban Meyer but fully expect OSU to stomp Nebraska in their next game. Just as we should have done to injury depleted MSU who just put up less than 100 yards of offense. Franklin doesn’t seem to have that ability to get the team up after choking away wins.

I do think we beat Iowa this week, lose to Michigan and Wisconsin is a toss up.
 
the next two games will tell a lot. Iowa held Maryland to 115 yds and UMich held Sparty to 94 yds. not sure what to expect but I took a bet from a friend who is betting we do not get over a total of 400 yds offense for the next two games so avg under 200 total yds per game. my buddy is a Wisky fan and thinks we are going to beat his team but get totally hammered by the Hawks and UMich. he is a PSU fan but thinks we just don't have the players to compete.
Is your buddy a Wisconsin or PSU fan, or both? Don't have the players to compete with Iowa at Beaver Stadium? Whatever.
 
Thanks for the stalking and unclear where any of the above could be interpreted as being a heavy hitter. Literally thousands of people do what I do for a living, many of them much better:
You are a heavy hitter. You pointed it out yourself. I generally don't pay much attention to your posts, but someone else asked and I remembered what you had written, mainly because of Judge Smails Will Ferrell dig that followed - funny stuff. You were the one who disclosed and documented what you do on a message board. Poor judgement? Only if you are sensitive about it. It seemed that you were proud of it. Nevertheless, I am impressed. I understand a little of what goes on in that world and it is not for the meek or those without talent. You must be pretty sharp to have such a job.
 
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No, the mind of a realist. There are some tough games left and if the ball bounces the wrong way as it does sometimes, there could be a 10 point or more loss. I don’t want one, or any more losses for that matter, but it is going to be a tough road ahead.

It’s great that we haven’t had a blowout loss in a long time. However, it would have been nice to have won one or more of those close losses.

“If the ball bounces the wrong way.” LOL !!!! You make my point for me.
 
I guarantee Franklin analyzes himself far more than you do. I’m not sure what you do but I doubt you have millions of people judging what you do on a weekly basis and I doubt you’re the face of an entire huge organization. To think that Franklin doesn’t analyze himself as much as Joe the Drywaller is ridiculous.

Which means what exactly?
 
That's true to an extent. I've had a few fans of other B1G schools tell me 2016 - 2017 was an aberration. That Penn State would soon return to "mediocrity." To their point, can anyone here deny that Saquon is a once-in-a-generation type running back. Or that Joe Morehead is not a special talent. I think not. Which leads me to believe it's a little bit of both. We were fortuitous in 2016-2017 and we're not as bad as we think we are in its wake.
2016 was really lucky and the most entertaining season I've ever experienced. That team over-performed to a magical extent. 2017 was probably a little unlucky since that team was legitimately elite. They make the playoffs if either Buchholz or Bates don't get injured during the OSU game. That said, 11 wins plus an NY6 win is still an excellent season. What program do you people think you're watching? I've only been watching since the 90s. PSU was nationally competitive about once every ten years before Franklin got here. Yet you people are now freaking out if Franklin doesn't have a national title contender every season. I don't understand that sentiment and can't comprehend how you managed to maintain it through the dark ages.



This year should be considered a rebuilding year by everyone yet Franklin is so good that there was still a chance to reload and luck into national contention. Please remember that he convinced these kids to come here during the nadir of PSU football.



Whoops I rambled here's the summary:
ITS ****ING HARD TO WIN IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL STOP BEING ASSHOLES
 
Of course that should be the goal, compounded with his early successes, expectations are unreasonably sky high for the team. He is going to be under intense scrutiny , especially making millions a of dollars of year.

Every decision he makes will come into question. Why we, the general public cannot question him for his abhorrent decision making at times is confusing to me?

For the record, I thought at the beginning of the year with our talent, we were 9-3 at best.

That doesn’t mean I can’t get frustrated when we give away games because of coaching stupidity, preparation, motivation.

Can’t stand Urban Meyer but fully expect OSU to stomp Nebraska in their next game. Just as we should have done to injury depleted MSU who just put up less than 100 yards of offense. Franklin doesn’t seem to have that ability to get the team up after choking away wins.

I do think we beat Iowa this week, lose to Michigan and Wisconsin is a toss up.

What a f ucking mess of a post. Your logic is all over the place.

Basically, you just want to stomp your feet and act like a baby because we lost and it upset your fee fees. Isn't that the TL; DR?

EDIT: No, let me correct myself. We didn't lose, it just seems that way from all the Penn State fans who lead perfect lives.
 
Which means what exactly?
It was in response to a post where the poster was saying e analyzes himself and what he does and making it sound like Franklin doesn’t. Context is your friend.
 
Something to keep in perspective for all the crybaby fans out there. That thought crossed my mind last night as I watched Ohio St get blown by Purdue last night 49-20.
This kicker is mr automatic. Lol.

I hope you didn’t jinx us with Iowa and Michigan coming up
 
Not stomping my feet at all, I have absolutely criticized Franklin who in my opinion deserves it. I have not asked he be fired, I would like to see him make the difficult decisions that he gets compensated to do.

That includes potentially firing deficient staff members that he is overly loyal too who aren’t delivering as well as benching players who have been surpassed by their peers.

In short, doing his job as the face of the organization.

So he should fire Corley midseason? This is Corley's first season as WR coach. Yeah, you often see assistant coaches fired mid-season, don't know what Franklin is waiting for.
 
So he should fire Corley midseason? This is Corley's first season as WR coach. Yeah, you often see assistant coaches fired mid-season, don't know what Franklin is waiting for.

Nope, coaches can’t catch the ball and any coach should be given more than one year to prove themselves. Unless Franklin thinks he made a poor hire and wants to pull the trigger.

Coaches can however decide to put other players in who might be able to catch the ball/run routes/block better. We finally got to see Dotson and who knows what the deal is with Shorter but he must be injured as I can’t imagine he is worse.

I assume JJ is still in because he has so much potential and is a very good blocker but his drops have hurt.
 
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“If the ball bounces the wrong way.” LOL !!!! You make my point for me.
LOL yourself. You make no sense, except maybe in your own mind. So according to you I should expect strong, blowout wins by Penn State the rest of the season. I hope so, but I don’t have magical thinking like you do, and I expect there to bo be bumps along the way.
 
Nope, coaches can’t catch the ball and any coach should be given more than one year to prove themselves. Unless Franklin thinks he made a poor hire and wants to pull the trigger.

Coaches can however decide to put other players in who might be able to catch the ball/run routes/block better. We finally got to see Dotson and who knows what the deal is with Shorter but he must be injured as I can’t imagine he is worse.

I assume JJ is still in because he has so much potential and is a very good blocker but his drops have hurt.

Here is what you wrote:

"That includes potentially firing deficient staff members that he is overly loyal too who aren’t delivering "

Rahne is in his first year as OC. Corley is in his first year. Who are you advocating he fire?

Here is what you dopes don't understand. As much as you want the team to win, the coaches want the team to win 100x more.

If one of the freshman wide receivers was better in practice, they would be playing. We saw Hippenhammer get more playing time yesterday and he dropped two directly in his hands, one that resulted in a pick.

Dotson played yesterday, had a catch. Shorter has been injured. Wide receiver is not an easy position to come right in and play. It's a very complex position to learn. Sort of like your job, right, smart guy? Could some 19 year old college intern come in and do your job better than you if you screw up? Come on.
 
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So do you think Farmer is a starting linebacker based on our existing roster setup?

I never post critically of players as they are 18-22 year old people, but everyone can see he is overmatched.

If we truly don’t have a better option, I.e Parsons, Luketa, or Brooks, they we are exactly who we should be, a 3-5 loss team.

As for you 19 year old intern comment, it’s an idiotic comparison. Can a 19 year old do my job better, highly unlikely. Can someone with slightly less experience than me, much better chance of that.

Whose to say our freshman receivers on the bench didn’t start playing football at the age of 5, being groomed through a family that played and coached.

Vs a 3 year starting junior that starting playing football at the age of a 12 in a loosely affiliated youth program with sub par coaching.

Yeah, quite possible a freshman could outperform a more “experienced” player. Happens all the time all across the country, even at Alabama


The coaches have 100x more information than you do about how a player is practicing, working out, and yes, at Penn State, doing in the classroom. So when the player demonstrates they are ready to get more playing time, and are healthy enough to do it, you will see them out there if the veterans are not performing. This idea that you have a better handle on who should be playing is hilarious.

As I said, we saw that with Hippenhammer and what happened?

Franklin brought along 14 true or redshirt freshman on the travel squad yesterday. Many or most of them played.
 
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