Fat chance of this stupidness until numerous things are rectified.
http://www.centredaily.com/news/local/education/penn-state/article148743724.html
http://www.centredaily.com/news/local/education/penn-state/article148743724.html
Penn State Wants Younger Alumni $$$$.
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The same alumni dollars that the new alumni would rather put towards their ridiculous student loans?
My guess is they have to since they pissed off most of the older alumni.
Yep, older alumni don't want to give. Younger ones can't afford to.
here's a thought...stop spending money on lawsuits and payouts that were the cause of your own mistakes. Stop blaming out of control drinking on the greek system and the youth today. Its the same as it ever was. Let Penn state be the Penn State I know and love and maybe then ill give
Every time they call or want a meeting, I give them an ear-full. They usually try to soothe things over but never give me a second call back. I actually like it that way.
“(Younger alumni) want very specific choices,” Bundy said.
As a younger alumni, graduated in the mid 2000's, I see no benefit to my donations and have no desire to donate when tuition continues its upward pace and there's been no slowing down with construction on campus or visible efforts to control costs. In the last decade+ they've built the East View Terrace complex, re-done South Halls, built the Millennium science complex, Lubrano Park, The Lewis Katz Building, The group of buildings on what used to be Lot 80 (81?) between East Halls and the previous Creamery building, added onto the HUB and on and on and on. Tuition over that time for in-state has gone from roughly ~10k to ~18k and out of state from ~16k to ~25k.
I agree with others that have said that more recent students aren't going to give when they're being strangled by debt. If I had just graduated and gave the college $100k+, giving another $50 for no tangible benefit isn't an attractive proposition.
As a younger alumni, graduated in the mid 2000's, I see no benefit to my donations and have no desire to donate when tuition continues its upward pace and there's been no slowing down with construction on campus or visible efforts to control costs. In the last decade+ they've built the East View Terrace complex, re-done South Halls, built the Millennium science complex, Lubrano Park, The Lewis Katz Building, The group of buildings on what used to be Lot 80 (81?) between East Halls and the previous Creamery building, added onto the HUB and on and on and on. Tuition over that time for in-state has gone from roughly ~10k to ~18k and out of state from ~16k to ~25k.
I agree with others that have said that more recent students aren't going to give when they're being strangled by debt. If I had just graduated and gave the college $100k+, giving another $50 for no tangible benefit isn't an attractive proposition.
Well I am not a fundraiser but this just looks like another WTF? moment by our leaders.
. you got one group of alumni struggling with careers, school loans and families and another group with no loans, well into their careers. hmm let's go after the first group
. you got one group who saw tuitions skyrocket during their time at PSU and another group well beyond those tuitions who are better off financially and in some cases looking at estate planning. hmm let's go after the first group
What else should we expect from these nitwits?.
. you got one group of alumni struggling with careers, school loans and families and another group with no loans, well into their careers. hmm let's go after the first group
. you got one group who saw tuitions skyrocket during their time at PSU and another group well beyond those tuitions who are better off financially and in some cases looking at estate planning. hmm let's go after the first group
What else should we expect from these nitwits?.
It's not a bad idea to broaden the charitable-giving base. In fact it's so obvious one wonders why the sudden realization.
I agree. Graduated in 2010, and during my time, my tuition nearly tripled from year 1 to year 5. Each year, there was a multiple thousand dollar increase in tuition.
I am in a position to give generously to Penn State but I send my donations elsewhere instead. I have stated my reasons here many times, but the Old Guard not only fails to address my concerns. They continue to give me more reasons not to give. So be it.
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Same, and I have two kids I am not sure I would want to go to Penn State. Sadly, I am pretty sure 'old guard' ineptitude and rising tuition costs are not limited to Penn State.
The rising costs aren't but the "ineptitude" is. There have been no bigger scoundrels in the history of higher education than the BoT who helped concoct a false narrative through Frazier and Tomalis to frame an entire University over bullshit in which there was no culpability.
As an older alum, class of 1958, I am as angry and upset with what the BOT has done in recent years. I deplore the tuition levels. But I will continue my modest contribution to the University as I have every year since I was graduated.
I donate to the Levi Lamb fund.
PSU is an infinitely better University than the one I attended. Why, because of the hard work of a lot of non BOT people.
Disenagement only weakens the University.
Remember this was a politics driven scandal. Corbet and crew do not value a public university. They cut funding to à ridiculous level.
When Spanier started to rally the alumni base to oppose the cuts he was seen as a political enemy
JVP became collateral damage as Surma and others saw the opportunity to destroy him.
Aroused alumni helped remove Corbet from the scene now we have a job to do by forcing change on the BOT.
Disenagement from the University will not make Penn State greater. It only lets the SOBs win.
Give a little and complain a lot. Check out who supports the University. If they don't vote them out of office.
A rambling discourse from a member of what was called The Silent Generation.
I donate to the Levi Lamb fund.
PSU is an infinitely better University than the one I attended. Why, because of the hard work of a lot of non BOT people.
Disenagement only weakens the University.
Remember this was a politics driven scandal. Corbet and crew do not value a public university. They cut funding to à ridiculous level.
When Spanier started to rally the alumni base to oppose the cuts he was seen as a political enemy
JVP became collateral damage as Surma and others saw the opportunity to destroy him.
Aroused alumni helped remove Corbet from the scene now we have a job to do by forcing change on the BOT.
Disenagement from the University will not make Penn State greater. It only lets the SOBs win.
Give a little and complain a lot. Check out who supports the University. If they don't vote them out of office.
A rambling discourse from a member of what was called The Silent Generation.
I think they are taking a good first step by targeting all Greeks as morally undesirable. The sooner all those Greeks are in jail, the more those Greeks and their Alumni Brothers and Sisters will want to write out those big, fat checks they are begging for.
Well stated.
Too bad the do gooder's have taken over and don't really have a clue in how to manage what they now control.....
PSU will survive and be better when those now in control crash and burn.
The problem isn't Penn State specific. Giving to a university as a charity is a poor choice IMO. There must be a thousand charities that are more deserving of your dollars.
Agree almost completely. The only reservation I would offer is that it's remarkable how the offering (or threatened withholding) of a donation of size can be used to achieve a desired behavior. University administrators are absolute whores.
Really, any true charity would be a better choice. With a "charity" being defined as:
"an organization set up to provide help and raise money for those in need."
Because a true charity is truly non-profit, trying to keep their costs under control, not trying to build an empire or make a name for itself or any one involved. All characteristics that are the opposite of the direction that large universities have settled into...........
But think of all the Administrators and Educators your $100,000+ supported. They won't be on food stamps anytime soon. I give $5K a year and they still have students, yes, students calling and asking for more. They invite you to a President's Club dinner and charge you. They once gave $500/year Honorary Coaches Engraved Glasses, Stadium Blankets, Ice Buckets etc. They stopped that years ago but the price of an Honorary Coach is up to $2500./year. Their largesse is truly insatiable. Don't get me wrong I love the University I went to. I hardly recognize that university sometimes.
A board member, a real low life pos, once told me it would "only" take 25 years to recover, as if it were a good thing.
Perhaps, but I no longer care. Much like a man divorced from a woman he once loved, what bound the former to the latter is gone and will likely never come back. There are memories, both good and bad, but that alone is not enough. I have closed the door and, by all accounts, the Old Guard is happy to see me go.
PSU is not alone in what you describe, I assure you. When it comes to sucking money out of alumni, universities are insatiable.
I told my kid who got accepted to PSU that there are better schools and I would not give them a dime. My kid accepted at another school. I'm forever done pushing money to these people's care.
This is very sad, that the OG has turned our own against Penn State.
My kids already have their degrees (both from PSU) but I've been thinking for some time now that if they were starting today I'd give them the same advice- go somewhere else.
Well you are correct about that. If the headline read PSU attempts to broaden its charitable giving base it would have been met with yawns. When it reads "targets younger alumni" it is met with "are you kidding me". I have two sons 31 and 29 and don't know too many young folks under the age of 40 who have either the means or the desire to make substantial gifts to their respective universities.
Bless you Tweed, you are are great Penn Stater, but the guys running the BoT now were part of the scandal in my view and deserve nothing.
These modern day highway men keep saying "stand and deliver" for their personal enrichment, now they look for ways to keep it going.
They made the mess, let them clean it up.
Could you please narrow it down a little so as to give us a snowball's chance of guessing who said that to you?
